SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #15

[cluciano63]

If the suspect IS SM...somehow I don't think he would be awash or overcome with guilt, grief, suicidal or confessional...but JMO. I would expect belligerence, even in the face of evidence and never saying where she is, unless possibly convicted and vying for life vs. death. JMO

As far as RSO's...one would hope all within a certain radius have been investigated. That is part of what marshalls do, so their presence on the team may be, in part, for that purpose.

 

[Foxfire]

What if the RSO is not random? TE said in the interview with Peter Hyatt that he knows all of the RSO's or something along those lines. Personally, I don't know how this is possible. My neighborhood, which is a very nice neighborhood, has a fair amount and we own our own business as well, and I don't know one of them. So, if it is true, maybe she then knew him as well. Maybe through her dad's business, church, school, TK, or someone else. I am just exploring other options. Of course, I am sure they were all looked into and alibis checked. It is possible many of them couldn't provide an alibi because of the early morning time frame. I know I wouldn't be able to on some days. Sleeping children wouldn't help me out.

Hockeymom4, if I am not mistaken, TE said that he knew all the SO's; HCPD & Sheriff's Officers, but not all of the RSOs..

 

[PeterThomasFan]

O/T (???): Nothing new on suspicious device/person from last night!

Not sure about J. Reuben booking info either. Charges not listed yet for a 47yo WM booked in at 2am.

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24720373/horry-county-police-investigate-suspicious-device

Google Map - HWY 544 and Carolina Bays Pkwy (31)

BBM WITH UPDATE

22-year-old Conway man was arrested Thursday night after Highway 544 was shut down near Highway 31 while police detonated several explosive devices found on the man, a Horry County Police report states.

UPDATE: HCPD: Officer finds explosive device on Conway man walking on Hwy 544

UPDATE: Looks like "Pops" was arrested now too! http://www.wbtw.com/story/24720550/man-found-w

 

[nosysw]

Hockeymom4, if I am not mistaken, TE said that he knew all the SO's; HCPD & Sheriff's Officers, but not all of the RSOs..

I read SO as Sexual Offenders, too :blushing:

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[bamcaan]

I can't shake the possiblity of Amber being a tragic case of being mistaken for someone else. I don't think Heather was the first young woman working in a pub or restaurant that SM was friendly with. Also, I would not put it past a cheating husband to give his wife a "fake" name of the other woman if he was caught . JMO

This has been in my head the whole time. Especially if one's wife might have a history of being confrontational. I posted a long while back that I think this may be part of a bigger picture. I wonder if LE has considered/checked into this.

 

[hockeymom4]

Hockeymom4, if I am not mistaken, TE said that he knew all the SO's; HCPD & Sheriff's Officers, but not all of the RSOs..

Oh really? I swear he said he knew all of the RSO's and has worked with them. They have made mistakes. I was on my phone, but am now going to look for it. I had the conversation with a large group of people shortly after the interview because we all found it odd. Gonna like. What you said would make a lot more sense! The interview kept cutting out.

 

[bamcaan]

I think there are similarities in these cases. To me anyway, which is why I have looked into other options. As previously stated, SM didn't work at TK at the same time as Amber. Of course that doesn't mean that he didn't know her. But for me, I think of all the other RSO's that could have known them both (by working there or leaving near them), employees patrons, people that they went school with, etc. That is one of the places my mind goes. But, then it goes back to Rhodes saying the community not be worried, which makes me think they are not connected.

I took that to mean that HE isn't related to the other missing from the area.

Amber isn't 'missing'. She was found in the road next to her car. Beaten to death.

MOO

 

[hockeymom4]

I took that to mean that HE isn't related to the other missing from the area.

Amber isn't 'missing'. She was found in the road next to her car. Beaten to death.

MOO

I know Amber isn't missing.

 

[cluciano63]

Did they say not connected to other cases, or specify missing person cases?

 

[hockeymom4]

Did they say not connected to other cases, or specify missing person cases?

I have not heard them say either. All I have heard them say is that "What I don't want is a community fearful of being out at night."

This confuses me to no end. If there is a person who has murdered someone out there, why would the community not be not be scared. Even if it wasn't random. My thoughts, if it was SM and I had an affair with him, I would be scared that he would kill me next. If it was an RSO, which I have suspected, then people would be worried. This is why I constantly go back to theories like run away, suicide, sex trafficking or someone specific to HE who the community really would not be in fear of. I haven't ruled SM out, but that statement throws me a bit.

 

[SharetheLight]

I have not heard them say either. All I have heard them say is that "What I don't want is a community fearful of being out at night."



This confuses me to no end. If there is a person who has murdered someone out there, why would the community not be not be scared. Even if it wasn't random. My thoughts, if it was SM and I had an affair with him, I would be scared that he would kill me next. If it was an RSO, which I have suspected, then people would be worried. This is why I constantly go back to theories like run away, suicide, sex trafficking or someone specific to HE who the community really would not be in fear of. I haven't ruled SM out, but that statement throws me a bit.

IMO they say this because they know it's personal. Personal to Heather and whoever did this so no one else needs to be fearful.

 

[cluciano63]

I have not heard them say either. All I have heard them say is that "What I don't want is a community fearful of being out at night."

This confuses me to no end. If there is a person who has murdered someone out there, why would the community not be not be scared. Even if it wasn't random. My thoughts, if it was SM and I had an affair with him, I would be scared that he would kill me next. If it was an RSO, which I have suspected, then people would be worried. This is why I constantly go back to theories like run away, suicide, sex trafficking or someone specific to HE who the community really would not be in fear of. I haven't ruled SM out, but that statement throws me a bit.

IMO, SM's name is not being left out of anything official lately. If he is NOT the prime suspect, LE is playing a dangerous game with his safety.

 

[bamcaan]

Did they say not connected to other cases, or specify missing person cases?

Only that they don't think it's related to any other cases. They didn't say cases of what. My mind immediately thought "cases of what?

Sadly, we don't know what we don't know, and we don't always know what they don't say, only what they say and what people (WS) interpret that to mean or not mean.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. MOO

 

[hockeymom4]

If the suspect IS SM...somehow I don't think he would be awash or overcome with guilt, grief, suicidal or confessional...but JMO. I would expect belligerence, even in the face of evidence and never saying where she is, unless possibly convicted and vying for life vs. death. JMO

As far as RSO's...one would hope all within a certain radius have been investigated. That is part of what marshalls do, so their presence on the team may be, in part, for that purpose.

When I first heard the mention of the US Marshals, and knowing what type of missing person cases they usually handle...I suspected sex trafficking, RSO, kidnapping or a fugitive. The last two being very unlikely.

 

[bamcaan]

IMO they say this because they know it's personal. Personal to Heather and whoever did this so no one else needs to be fearful.

You said it better than I tried to!

 

[hockeymom4]

Only that they don't think it's related to any other cases. They didn't say cases of what. My mind immediately thought "cases of what?

Sadly, we don't know what we don't know, and we don't always know what they don't say, only what they say and what people (WS) interpret that to mean or not mean.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. MOO

Can you link the MSM article? I don't remember reading this. Thanks.

 

[SharetheLight]

I think there are similarities in these cases. To me anyway, which is why I have looked into other options. As previously stated, SM didn't work at TK at the same time as Amber. Of course that doesn't mean that he didn't know her. But for me, I think of all the other RSO's that could have known them both (by working there or leaving near them), employees patrons, people that they went school with, etc. That is one of the places my mind goes. But, then it goes back to Rhodes saying the community not be worried, which makes me think they are not connected.

Do we have a link stating SM didn't work at TK the same time as Amber? He doesn't actually work there, right? Just a contractor?
I don't remember this. We aren't allowed to sleuth SM so how was this stated previously?

I'm asking because if there was a link between Amber and Heather then there's a good chance it could be SM among others.

 

[Dee10]

"Investigators don’t believe Elvis’ disappearance is connected to any other case."

http://www.myhorrynews.com/eedition...8f06-0980-5338-bcc9-a408e4f6eb99.html#page_a3

 

[Treelights]

It was sex offenders he was talking about. Around the 22 minute mark he was asked about Sex Offenders/violent offenders. He said most of them he either went to school, grew up with, worked for or worked with or knows. "They are an excellent group of people. They make mistakes." So, this is why I said, that an RSO wouldn't necessarily wouldn't be random as he says he knows most of them.

I really thought Terry was talking about Law Enforcement Officers.........

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peterhyatt/2014/02/09/🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬-with-peter-hyatt

 

[hockeymom4]

IMO, SM's name is not being left out of anything official lately. If he is NOT the prime suspect, LE is playing a dangerous game with his safety.

MSM is using his name. From what I have read, LE hasn't mentioned his name in public, have they? I guess LE could of course tell them to stop. I don't think the problem with his safety lies with MSM using his name, but that is MOO. Whether his name was ever mentioned in MSM, he would be in the same position he is in right now in regards to his "safety," IMO.