SC - Nine killed in Emanuel AME Church shooting, Charleston; Dylann Roof charged #2
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I'm a Michigander and I always thought it was referring to rural people from Kentucky, but, alas, then I heard that it originated in Michigan, in reference to the many Kentuckians that came up to work in the auto assembly plants. Who knows??? JMO
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One thing that disturbs me in the coverage of this case is how quickly it is being turned into a gun debate. IMO this kid would have done this. If he couldn't get a gun he would have built a pipe bomb. No one is really looking at what I really believe is the cause. Not only for these murders, but many more. Drugs. How many times when we see a horrific crime do we see so called "hard" drugs involved? But that doesn't fit in with the current agenda and they really don't know how to resolve the problem so it just isn't discussed.
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My great grandma, Eleanor Hurley, grew up in the Appalachians with her Irish family. She used to say they were called 'hillbilly's' because her brothers tended the goats up in the foothills. Who knows if that is the real meaning though...
Church will Reopen for services this Sunday!
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) "The historic black church where nine people were killed will re-open for a Sunday service, and the FBI said it was reviewing a manifesto purportedly written by the suspected gunman."
"We're gonna have people come by that we've never seen before and will probably never see again, and that's OK," he said. "It's a church of the Lord you don't turn nobody down."
"The church had that same welcoming nature when Roof walked into their Bible study, Felecia Sanders, who survived the shooting, said at Roof's bail hearing Friday. She lost her son Tywanza in the attack."
http://news.yahoo.com/church-victims-family-face-alleged-attacker-court-070352777.html#
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) "The historic black church where nine people were killed will re-open for a Sunday service, and the FBI said it was reviewing a manifesto purportedly written by the suspected gunman."
"We're gonna have people come by that we've never seen before and will probably never see again, and that's OK," he said. "It's a church of the Lord you don't turn nobody down."
"The church had that same welcoming nature when Roof walked into their Bible study, Felecia Sanders, who survived the shooting, said at Roof's bail hearing Friday. She lost her son Tywanza in the attack."
http://news.yahoo.com/church-victims-family-face-alleged-attacker-court-070352777.html#
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I don't even think ' hard drugs ' are the issue. But my opinion is vastly unpopular and I think we all form our opinions by what we see and what our own life experiences are . This guy looked like a walking zombie. That's not natural. That's not normal and I don't think that's the face of ' evil' not to say what he did was not evil.
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I live in the northern edge of the Appalachia's. I claim both redneck and hillbilly status. But funnily enough a redneck hillbilly is considered an insult.
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Hey there sleuthers... has anyone read the 'manifesto' that can break it down for me? TIA
I have read a short section and frankly do not intend to waste another second of my allotted time on earth reading more.
The main gist that I got:
N*ggers (his terminology) are stupid
N*ggers are violent
N*ggers cannot behave decently
Slavery wasn't as widespread or as bad as suggested
Many black people liked being slaves and were treated really well
White people are superior to black people
Black people are obessed with race
White people never bother about race - the problems are all down to blacks and their inferiority complex causing them to imagine racism.
By this point, this n*gger had read quite enough so I am afraid someone else will have to fill you in on the other nuggets of wisdom.
On a different subject, I have to say that I find the response of the NRA executive who suggests that the pastor is somehow responsible for the deaths because he voted for gun control utterly abhorrant and shameful.
http://news.sky.com/story/1505619/nra-exec-blames-pastor-for-charleston-shooting://
The inference that people of God should be toting guns to bible class otherwise they only have themselves to blame if some rabid racist decides to murder them is disgraceful in my view.
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To me a person on drugs is somewhat out of touch with reality. Lol that is why they take them. But someone who uses them regularly, their brain chemistry changes. When you combine all that with the adverse reactions of the drugs you have a dangerous combo IMO.
What he did was evil I can agree with that. But my impression of him during the bond hearing was that he had more of a "deer in the headlights" look. Like he was in shock or something. I kept watching his eyes. He followed what was on the monitor closely, but kept peeking up at the camera. I had expected to see distain or arrogance but did not see that.
I am married to a 10th grade drop out. He said he was bored to tears in high school. He joined the army for 4 years, he chose not to re up. He can tell you every bone and muscle in your body. In his 2 (two) professions he is the one that gets the contract signed and in the other grown men have nic named him things like, guru/mad scientist/numbers man. Some customers come from other countries. He said he was bored to tears while in class because they were teaching about stuff he already knew. So I don't always look at drop outs as people that can't compose a letter.
I also knew a man that could not read or write and he had a cattle farm and he built homes on the side, btw his home was gorgeous and had a kitchen that any woman would want. jmo idk
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If anyone wants to follow all the tech sleuthing of the Roof website data, these two are still working hard and consulting with each other.
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We are unaware of the hard drugs used. There are lots of crimes that are not drug induced. However, with that being said, I don't know if drugs were consumed pre murder and all I am saying is if it marijuana I am not sold on it.
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http://fox8.com/2015/06/19/suboxone-what-is-the-drug-linked-to-charleston-shooting-suspect/
I am making the assumptions that drugs were involved at some point because of the previous arrest.
And I am a product of the '70's and I don't consider marijuanna a hard drug.
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For one thing, he's NOT been on drugs for about 48 hrs? by the time he's at the bond hearing. He's liable to be in pretty rough shape, physically and mentally right now if he's used to narcotics and now has none.
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His manifesto is the same talking points you constantly see posted by right wingers.
I can't believe all the defense of the n-word here. Redneck does not have the same historical and negative connotation. The entitlement is strong.
I can't believe all the defense of the n-word here. Redneck does not have the same historical and negative connotation. The entitlement is strong.
[h=1]South Carolina Supreme Court Orders New Judge in Charleston Shooter Case[/h]
The change came as revelations later surfaced that Charleston County Magistrate James Gosnell Jr., who presided over confessed gunman Dylann Roof's bond hearing on Friday, made racist comments in a courtroom over a decade ago.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ch...ers-new-judge-charleston-shooter-case-n379066
The change came as revelations later surfaced that Charleston County Magistrate James Gosnell Jr., who presided over confessed gunman Dylann Roof's bond hearing on Friday, made racist comments in a courtroom over a decade ago.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ch...ers-new-judge-charleston-shooter-case-n379066
Strange, we're from the same state but when I hear the term "redneck" my immediate reaction is negative. My immediate thought is ignorant gun toting, bible thumping racists as you said. My father would fit your terminology so I guess I am the daughter of a redneck. I absolutely in no way resent your understanding of the term & in no way am criticizing you or your opinion. I guess it just means different things to different people.
Did you mean oldest in the state? According to this link, Charleston is tied for 14th oldest city in the U.S.:
http://geography.about.com/od/unitedstatesofamerica/a/oldest-cities-united-states.htm
[h=1]Panthers owner donating $100,000 to families of Charleston murder victims[/h]
Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson was so moved by the tragedy that struck Charleston that he's decided to donate $100,000 to the Mother Emanuel Hope Fund to help each of the families who lost a loved one during Wednesday night's horrific killings.
The Mother Emanuel Hope Fund was set up by the city of Charleston to "provide direct financial support for the funeral and burial expenses of the nine victims."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...0000-to-families-of-charleston-murder-victims
Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson was so moved by the tragedy that struck Charleston that he's decided to donate $100,000 to the Mother Emanuel Hope Fund to help each of the families who lost a loved one during Wednesday night's horrific killings.
The Mother Emanuel Hope Fund was set up by the city of Charleston to "provide direct financial support for the funeral and burial expenses of the nine victims."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...0000-to-families-of-charleston-murder-victims
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Yep he should be feeling the pain right now. And I am quite enjoying the idea so I hope it is true.
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