SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #8

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Y’all are burning up the threads!:p I knew to come here when I saw the news on AM!

Well, well, well! What a tangled web AM has weaved! I don’t buy his “addiction” line! He certainly doesn’t show any visible signs of meth addiction, he’s too robust and heavy set. I don’t buy the opioid addiction either bc of what another poster stated, withdrawal is a nasty drawn-out affair. My oldest son has been addicted to both drugs. Just my opinion from personal experience.

IMO the addiction story was cooked up to buy AM some time to scheme on another set of lies. SLED is all over AM. He’ll face the beginning of charges today, more to come I’m sure. Hoping there will be news soon on the investigation of MM & PMs murders.

i soooo agree. Just see how much time everyone is speculating on all these drug related issues..... I feel its all cooked. (no pun intended)
 
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I live in Charleston and was at work this morning when this case came on the news. We had a guy visiting our office who is a lawyer in Hampton County and we started talking about the case. He said there is a huge portrait of the Murdaugh grandfather behind the bench at the local courthouse. There is sooo much with this family that goes way back.

I'm glad for the national spotlight as now it will be harder to cover things up, as may have happened in the past. jmo.
 
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i soooo agree. Just see how much time everyone is speculating on all these drug related issues..... I feel its all cooked. (no pun intended)
As in bogus?
 
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As in bogus?

I am not saying there are NO drugs...... There are millions of folks that use these with no significant repercussions... Right now, I just feel it has been cooked up as a smokescreen.

moo
 
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the facts will speak for themselves; they always trump a baseless narrative full of spin.
I wish that were true but I have a feeling Alex has been taught exactly the opposite for his entire life, and seen it proven time and time again

What’s he been pouring all that money into ?? Gambling? Supporting extra-marital affairs?
Bribes! Bribes to keep his psycho kid out of prison, payment for dirty work done by local criminals etc. Like @Mirandartv says, "favors". That term has a good broad meaning yet somehow also doesn't really adequately express just how despicable it is.

Any chance she did not have an accident and did die of natural causes? Was the opportunity taken to scam the insurance by saying it was an accident? So very confusing.
Honestly it hasn't even occurred to me that someone might take a sad event like someone having a heart attack or stroke and suddenly dying in their home, install one of their cronies to represent the deceased's family and sue themselves for negligence they weren't even guilty of to get a large settlement from their own insurance company, nearly all of which they would then steal from the family. I would have thought it wasn't worth it but I definitely don't know nearly as much about lawsuits and insurance as Alex Murdaugh

I have started imagining that Paul's appeal might have started with Satterfield's death, however it might have occurred. He may have seen first hand that his father could dictate the circumstances around people's deaths and Paul being an actual psychopath born into a "normal evil" family, upon realizing just how powerful they also were, at that point entered into the wildest time of life with zero regard for human life. Someone like that might hit someone with a baseball bat from a moving car like they were a mailbox or drunkenly crash a boat full of other kids in the middle of the night with the utmost confidence that his dad could sweep it all away.

Especially if his mother also coddled him and made him believe he could do no wrong. A relationship like that could easily be seen by a father as being the cause of his son's psychopathy, psychopathy that was slowly but surely consuming more of the family's resources than were being replaced. Then when that wife starts poking into the finances that you blame her son and have come to indirectly also blame her for wrecking, making signals like she might be considering leaving the family she made and is seeing how much money there is left for her to get her piece of... Well, that mother and son might just find out how big the rug is and how much can be self under it.

I originally wanted this to be a victim's family taking the law into their own hands on Paul. I didn't like that Maggie would have been collateral damage but it gave me a sense of hope to think that a "little person" might have gotten some justice against Paul and it might have set a series of events in motion that would undo the generations of injustice in that county. I guess that's my pioneer spirit but as things unravel it looks more and more like it's just another echelon of corruption and even if Alex swings for it, we'll never know who all he paid off and they will continue to sit there getting paid off by whoever the next Alex Murdaugh is. Makes me sick.
 
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Too bad Curtis Edward smith wasn’t hired to shoot MM / PM - maybe then they’d both be alive with no visible injuries
 
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My impressions of CS at bond hearing -- He was (to me) responsive and cognizant.. Nodding and following along as the judge spoke to him and asked him questions, his voice was surprisingly strong (I was expecting frailty based on what we've seen and heard so far.. Namely that guttural phlegmy cough while being taken out of the police cruiser). He was rocking at times, as he was in first appearance but sat still at other times, including when he read and signed documents so whatever's wrong with him (medical condition, withdrawls, cold?) doesn't render him incapacitated by any means.
 
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Smith, Curtis Edward Defendant 2021A2510100198 09/16/2021 Pending Criminal-Clerk Bond Court
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https://publicindex.sccourts.org/Hampton/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

herein lists all the charges...
 
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July 8, 2015: Stephen Smith, 19, is found dead on Sandy Run Road in Hampton County. Brothers Paul and Buster Murdaugh — the sons of Alex Murdaugh, who is one of the sons of Randolph Murdaugh III — are interviewed, but no arrest is made. The death is written off as a hit-and-run. bbm
The Murdaugh family mysteries: a timeline of murders, cryptic deaths, scandals and power
*bbm: That sentence just stings. a death is written off? It sounds so cold and distant. Brrrr… Only 19 young years old. So sad. His mom has and always will miss out on so many of her dreams she once had for her baby boy…
 
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Just listened to Cory's interview. One of my takeaways. I had no idea that Alex's dad was aware of Maggie and Paul's death and visited with Alex earlier in the day he "succumbed to his death". Did he off himself? Seriously, I would not be surprised one bit. He may have over dosed himself on pain meds, JMO.
 
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I don’t buy the opioid addiction either bc of what another poster stated, withdrawal is a nasty drawn-out affair.

he emphatically stated that the funds converted by his client from the law firm to pay the drug dealer... Dick, that’s a lot of Oxy” …

The claim of a drug dealer in conjunction with his stated opioid addition also seems strange.

AM is affluent and has cultivated a variety of connections to a variety of people over the course of his life. These connections are in turn supported by the connections maintained by family members over generations.

Connecting the dots......

Opioid is a legal drug and a certain number of the drug dealers wear white coats and operate from "pain clinics". Though the number of insane pill mills with lines of addicts out the door has shrank, white coat connections are still very available. Sadly, a friend of mine has one.

Getting to the point.....

I doubt somebody like connected AM with an opioid addiction would have even a higher end street dealer. Too much risk of different dramas, including blackmail or violent "rip offs" by a desperate dealer / addict.

Rather, such a person would have a white coat connection. No dingy pill mill waiting room for him. Rather, his white coat dealer would operate from a fully private clinic in Charleston. Other customers could include local politicians, business owners / senior government, large church clergy and..... other doctors.

I am thinking about 12-15k a year for the special prescriptions from the ohhh so very private clinic. Lets say 5K a year for the pills. This yields 20k max. Somebody like AM could maintain that cash flow indefintely.
 
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i soooo agree. Just see how much time everyone is speculating on all these drug related issues..... I feel its all cooked. (no pun intended)

Like the old commercial about drugs: couple of eggs cooking in a skillet. Here’s your brain on drugs. IMO, no way AM is a functioning druggie. He might be a heavy drinker, and that’s why he did not continue on as Solicitor in 2005(?), but drugs? People I know on drugs are beyond mentally deficient. You cannot be any kind of professional and keep up the workload. Alcohol, yes. Functioning alcoholic. Yes. I know of a couple. Drugs? Nope. But maybe some of you know of functioning druggies. I’d love to know bc it’s something to watch for when you’re in the real world, need help and stumble on a professional with drug issues.
 
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“That Saturday morning, he was trying to get off the opioids; he was not taking any of them, was in a massive depression, realized things were going to get really, really bad, and decided to end his life,” Harpootlian said.
Bonkers South Carolina Crime Saga Takes Another Bonkers Turn

*…the opioids…not taking any of them…
So, Mr. H., how many different forms of opioids was AM taking? So, reading between the lines, he was not trying to get off the opioids on Friday or days before?

All of a sudden, he wakes up, possibly still feeling his drug of choice’s euphoria from the night before.

decides he’s not gonna follow his morning ritual of twenty years, skips his usual bump, suddenly falls into a dark dark dark place.

He groans out a holler for his good old drug dealer and says, “Morning Eddie, I’m feeling like I need to go even deeper into my dark dark dark place - would ya mind coming on over for a cup of coffee so I can give you a gun to shoot and kill me later at a dark dark dark place so what’s left of my family can throw me in an everlasting dark dark dark hole?
 
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