SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #3

[Sustained]

One theory I haven't seen talked about is the following :

Suppose PM had some incriminating information about one of the boat occupants or one of their close relatives. And just maybe it came to a point where PM said "if I'm going down, you're going down" or something to that effect to the boat occupant. Or maybe it was "if you testify against me, you're going to jail".

So the closer both the criminal and civil cases approached trial, the more pressure on said boat occupant was feeling to lie on the stand about PM driving the boat. At least it's not out of the realm of possibilities IMO that PM was murdered to prevent the possible incrimination of said boat occupant or relative. With trial testimony looming and a civil settlement not happening, the pressure was on. Also, if the boat occupants testified that PM was NOT driving the boat, then someone had to be driving. I find it strange that CC waited until PM was murdered to file his civil petition, especially if he had the backing of the other boat occupants. If this possible incrimination was drug-related, it might explain how PM obtained his cocaine and weed. It could be that PM knew something about the participants in the SS death and threatened to blow the whistle on them.

In this scenario, MM was collateral damage or just maybe she knew of the criminal activity.

 

[Elley Mae]

Haven’t watched this one, at the video while in the bar PM sits next to a guy and looks like what follows is a little suspect.



Timeline: New documents, video paint detailed picture of night Mallory Beach died in drunken boat crash

Timeline: New documents, video paint detailed picture of night Mallory Beach died in drunken boat crash | WCBD News 2

 

[worm]

A theory I’ve had is that somebody who feels like they, or someone close to them, got a raw deal in local court and got angry and pumped thru all of the social media chatter about PM getting preferred treatment by the same court. Revenge on the solicitor by killing his family members.
I hate to “what if” this but I wonder if the perps didn’t hide near or were seen by the dogs and the victims went to see why the dogs were disturbed, getting ambushed? There is just so little known that folks like us are only left to guess.

 

[Sustained]

A theory I’ve had is that somebody who feels like they, or someone close to them, got a raw deal in local court and got angry and pumped thru all of the social media chatter about PM getting preferred treatment by the same court. Revenge on the solicitor by killing his family members.
I hate to “what if” this but I wonder if the perps didn’t hide near or were seen by the dogs and the victims went to see why the dogs were disturbed, getting ambushed? There is just so little known that folks like us are only left to guess.

Possible, but AM is not a Solicitor.

 

[worm]

Possible, but AM is not a Solicitor.

I thought he was a part time prosecutor in the 14th solicitors office? Even if he isn’t in the elected post, he could have angered the wrong one while serving in the office.

 

[Luna20]

Unless the suspect tampered with the cameras there must be evidence there within.

Not sure if this was discussed early on-is it normal for the victims family to hire a PR firm to handle the reward?

 

[worm]

Unless the suspect tampered with the cameras there must be evidence there within.

Not sure if this was discussed early on-is it normal for the victims family to hire a PR firm to handle the reward?

I don’t get the need for a PR firm either. We have wondered about cameras from day one and if video exist, SLED is keeping it suppressed for some reason.

 

[Sustained]

I thought he was a part time prosecutor in the 14th solicitors office? Even if he isn’t in the elected post, he could have angered the wrong one while serving in the office.

According to what I understand, he is/was a volunteer in that office. The Solicitor is Duffie Stone. AM has not served as Solicitor which is an elected office. If some folks were angry at the Solicitor's office when RM3 was Solicitor, why PM/MM and not RM3 / RM4 / JM or even AM ?

 

[worm]

According to what I understand, he is/was a volunteer in that office. The Solicitor is Duffie Stone. AM has not served as Solicitor which is an elected office. If some folks were angry at the Solicitor's office when RM3 was Solicitor, why PM/MM and not RM3 / RM4 / JM ?

It goes back to a series of reports in the Packet paper about PM and the community being upset about how his case was handled. Many reports, including the one above, goes into how PM was looking for his family of lawyers, and not MB, from the minute that boat crashed. Also, I’ve rarely ran across any report that doesn’t detail the history of his family “dynasty” with the 14th district. I’m sure this is well known among the criminal elements of the Lowcountry.

 

[Sustained]

It goes back to a series of reports in the Packet paper about PM and the community being upset about how his case was handled. Many reports, including the one above, goes into how PM was looking for his family of lawyers, and not MB, from the minute that boat crashed. Also, I’ve rarely ran across any report that doesn’t detail the history of his family “dynasty” with the 14th district. I’m sure this is well known among the criminal elements of the Lowcountry.

Prosecutors could always be in danger - look at the Kaufman County Texas murders and Eric Williams.

 

[worm]

Prosecutors could always be in danger - look at the Kaufman County Texas murders and Eric Williams.

I keep thinking that PM was the main intended victim after reading those Packet articles. There has just been so much negativity surrounding that boat crash. Face book must be on fire with the community and people can get so charged up with that kind of stuff that violence can easily erupt.

 

[Sustained]

I keep thinking that PM was the main intended victim after reading those Packet articles. There has just been so much negativity surrounding that boat crash. Face book must be on fire with the community and people can get so charged up with that kind of stuff that violence can easily erupt.

Who would run the risk of murdering PM/MM unless PM or MM had some serious dirt on them ?

 

[Colorado303]

It’s sad and a black eye to this entire state that people have nowhere to turn, unless the DOJ stepped in, to force these officials to explain some things like the “no threat” statement. SLED and state courts won’t do it, as we have seen and it’s an easy guess as to why nobody in that area has faith in the justice system. Having seen many local officials carted off to the fed pen myself, it’s easy to lose respect and trust in the agencies they wrecked.

I’m from IL where 4 of 7 Governors wound up in the slammer. I feel the same way about politicians...

4 of Illinois' last 7 governors went to prison

 

[worm]

Who would run the risk of murdering PM/MM unless PM or MM had some serious dirt on them ?

That’s a good point. I’m just bouncing ideas but there are some people that are angry that this young lady died and PM seemed to be getting preferred treatment, even tho he was charged with a serious crime. The constant delays were seen as trying to belittle the tragedy with passing time. The restrictions being lifted while others had to live by the same restrictions. I covered a case once where a guy was murdered in a store for cigarettes so a strong motive isn’t needed.
We all seen that comment on PMs obituary that I referred to as a “sick joke” but I’m not so sure anymore.

 

[Sustained]

That’s a good point. I’m just bouncing ideas but there are some people that are angry that this young lady died and PM seemed to be getting preferred treatment, even tho he was charged with a serious crime. The constant delays were seen as trying to belittle the tragedy with passing time. The restrictions being lifted while others had to live by the same restrictions. I covered a case once where a guy was murdered in a store for cigarettes so a strong motive isn’t needed.
We all seen that comment on PMs obituary that I referred to as a “sick joke” but I’m not so sure anymore.

I've wondered how the information obtained during the PM/MM murder investigation led to reopening the SS case. But it is quite possible that PM had some dirt on a boat occupant or one of their close friends/relatives that would implicate them in the SS death.
Motive ? Eliminate PM before he went to LE about the SS "murder", the secret dies with him, and testimony against PM can proceed in the civil trial.

 

[worm]

I've wondered how the information obtained during the PM/MM murder investigation led to reopening the SS case. But it is quite possible that PM had some dirt on a boat occupant or one of their close friends/relatives that would implicate them in the SS death.
Motive ? Eliminate PM before he went to LE about the SS "murder", the secret dies with him, and testimony against PM can proceed in the civil trial.

Another great point and I haven’t even gotten started on pondering the connection to that case. You could be spot on and I wonder what prompted that reopen as well. My guess is something related to PMs phone but it’s just a guess. Wasn’t Paul’s name brought up in the original investigation? If so, it could be just locals talking but then again?

 

[Sustained]

Another great point and I haven’t even gotten started on pondering the connection to that case. You could be spot on and I wonder what prompted that reopen as well. My guess is something related to PMs phone but it’s just a guess. Wasn’t Paul’s name brought up in the original investigation? If so, it could be just locals talking but then again?

PM's phone or perhaps his laptop taken from his apartment in Columbia

 

[Midwestmom2019]

One theory I haven't seen talked about is the following :

Suppose PM had some incriminating information about one of the boat occupants or one of their close relatives. And just maybe it came to a point where PM said "if I'm going down, you're going down" or something to that effect to the boat occupant. Or maybe it was "if you testify against me, you're going to jail".

So the closer both the criminal and civil cases approached trial, the more pressure on said boat occupant was feeling to lie on the stand about PM driving the boat. At least it's not out of the realm of possibilities IMO that PM was murdered to prevent the possible incrimination of said boat occupant or relative. With trial testimony looming and a civil settlement not happening, the pressure was on. Also, if the boat occupants testified that PM was NOT driving the boat, then someone had to be driving. I find it strange that CC waited until PM was murdered to file his civil petition, especially if he had the backing of the other boat occupants. If this possible incrimination was drug-related, it might explain how PM obtained his cocaine and weed. It could be that PM knew something about the participants in the SS death and threatened to blow the whistle on them.

In this scenario, MM was collateral damage or just maybe she knew of the criminal activity.

Someone didn’t want him to testify about something. You’re right. But I’m focused on the other killers at the SS scene. He had to rat out someone to get a reduced sentence or he was going to jail. Murdaugh or no Murdaugh.

 

[worm]

I was just looking around for comparison and found a murder in the same county on July 7th on Barricada rd where 2 people were shot, 1 killed, and the suspects weren't caught until later but I noticed no statement at all from LE about public safety. I just found that strange.

 

[Colorado303]

I've wondered how the information obtained during the PM/MM murder investigation led to reopening the SS case. But it is quite possible that PM had some dirt on a boat occupant or one of their close friends/relatives that would implicate them in the SS death.
Motive ? Eliminate PM before he went to LE about the SS "murder", the secret dies with him, and testimony against PM can proceed in the civil trial.

Perhaps when investigating MM/PM’s murders LE uncovered evidence a M was involved in SS’ death. However, IMO it’s likely it was reopened simply because when people who knew MM and PM were asked if they could think of a motive, someone suggested maybe it was revenge for SS’s death since Paul and/or Buster were rumored to be involved. Add to that the press implying there was some kind of cover-up in SS’s case and LE really had little choice but to revisit it.