SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #17

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  • #481
Break until 2:35 pm ET
 
  • #482
Take a photo of the person who is trying to shoot you?
That would definitely be my first priority if someone is trying to shoot me - taking a photo of them instead of trying to run away. *insert eye roll here* MOO
 
  • #483
Dove his holding up extremely well while testifying this long time yesterday and today.

Agreed......doubtful the Defense will be able to rattle this witness.
Det. Dove just answers the questions, states the facts, does his job.
 
  • #484
02/01/2023 AM trial

11:30 am ET until 13:20 pm ET

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We are back in session.

Dove testifies the last text Paul Murdaugh ever sent was a movie recommendation at 8:48:05 p.m on 6/7/21. He suggested A Star Is Born.

Prosecutor John Conrad establishes with Dove that Paul used his iPhone frequently, sending texts, Snapchats, etc., and using other apps. A number of apps tracked his location frequently. But suddenly, just after 8:49 p.m., all activity stops until the phone dies at 10:34 p.m.

Paul’s steps on 6/7/21: 135 steps, 6:54-7:03:49 p.m. 208 steps, 7:14:13 - 7:22:19 p.m. 139 steps, 7:25:03-7:34:47 p.m. 171 steps, 7:35:10-7:41:43 p.m. 89 steps, 7:45:27-7:55:11 p.m. (didn't hear step count) 7:55:44-8:05:28 p.m. (didn't hear step count) 8:05:46-8:15:24 p.m.

.. continued: 140 steps, 8:15:55-8:21:45 p.m. 283 steps, 8:32:25-8:42:11 p.m. No steps recorded on Paul’s phone after 8:42:11 p.m., Dove testifies. The phone could have traveled a very short distance without recording steps, Dove says.

The state is now admitting into evidence a video on Paul's phone that is said to put Alex Murdaugh at the dog kennels in the minutes before Maggie and Paul's phones stop sending/answering texts/calls.

Prosecutors just played the video, which is timed 8:44:49 p.m.-8:45:47 p.m. The audio isn't great, to be honest. But you do hear some talk about a bird in a dog's mouth and a chicken. Murdaugh cries at the defense table as it plays.

State sits down. Defense attorney Phillip Barber (from Harpootlian's law office) begins cross-examining SLED digital forensics expert Britt Dove Barber starts by establishing it is possible to read a text message without unlocking your phone or marking the message as "read.”

Barber seems in command of the facts here. He establishes with Dove that Alex's phone steps and Maggie's phone steps don't line up as you would expect if one person had held both phones after the slayings. Dove: “I would expect to see steps on both phones, yes sir.”

Barber is now having Dove read Maggie's text messages from earlier that day. Lots of texts reflecting concern for Randolph Murdaugh III's medical condition.

Barber is walking back through the orientation data of Maggie's phone. Not sure where we are going with it quite yet. Mostly just running through the timestamps as of yet.

Barber establishes with Dove that a phone's orientation can change when it is chucked out of the window of a moving car. Maggie's phone was found on the side of Moselle road about a half-mile from Murdaugh's house, Barber says.

Barber suggests that the final orientation change logged on Maggie's phone - at 9:06 p.m. - represents when Maggie's phone was chucked out of the getaway car. Barber says Alex was cranking up his vehicle outside the Moselle home at the time Dove isn't offering much confirmation.

Barber floats the notion that the killer had Maggie's phone in their hand as Alex dialed it, then freaked out and chucked the phone out of the car window.

Barber establishes that Alex Murdaugh was walking (steps data) as he called Maggie at 9:06:12 p.m., a second before he stops walking and cranks up the Suburban. Around that time, Maggie's phone records its final orientation change. Only Alex's phone was recording steps.

This seems like a big win for the defense: Dove confirms: At the time Maggie's phone changed orientation for the last time, "it appears the phones were not together being moved by the same person because they are not (both) recording steps.” Only Alex's was.

The defense's two-shooter theory gains some steam here.

Phillip Barber, who writes a lot of the legal motions coming out of Murdaugh's camp, is performing quite well here.

Prosecutor John Conrad is up now. He's poking holes in Barber's theory that the phone was chucked at 9:06 p.m. - when Murdaugh was a half-mile away at the house. Conrad establishes with Dove that a phone with its screen off won't record an orientation change. ..

Conrad also establishes that Maggie's phone screen was off from 9:07 p.m. to 9:31 p.m., so it wouldn't have recorded any orientation changes then. Conrad supposes it could have been ditched in that timeframe, not necessarily at 9:06 p.m. as the state contends.

Dove steps down after a long while on the witness stand yesterday and today. We are breaking until 2:35 p.m.
 
  • #485
Oh geez… now CourtTV just said their producer in the courtroom said the jury seemed more attentive during the defense cross, but also said had the defense just glossed over the video evidence, never mentioned it. Were the jury waiting for the defense to discuss this?

Who knows…
 
  • #486
WLTX doesn't have the mics off.... I can hear the court reporters.
 
  • #487
They may know that these charts etc. will be available when they go into deliberations and they don't have to write it all down now. They just have to listen. MOO MOO MOO
This was my thought. I hope we are correct.
 
  • #488
Agreed......doubtful the Defense will be able to rattle this witness.
Det. Dove just answers the questions, states the facts, does his job.
Yeah the defense presents as a dog chasing a parked car right now IMO.
 
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  • #490
That would definitely be my first priority if someone is trying to shoot me - taking a photo of them instead of trying to run away. *insert eye roll here* MOO
Or do your best to activate the video before you may expire, once it starts to record basically set in stone as they say.
 
  • #491
The guy they're interviewing on Law & Crime talking about the texts that were deleted from Alex's phone that night.

JMO, if the defense is trying to say that revenge killers from the boat accident came to kill them that night, why didn't they try to kill AM, too? Why would he have left him alive and why did he say nothing about them if he was present? Some description, type of vehicle, etc.?
 
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  • #493
Loving how the Defense is trying to trip the cell phone data expert up and he's not having it...trying to get him to speculate what would occur if someone threw MM's cell phone out on the side of the road.

Edited: wording
Notice how the defense always uses the word "reasonable" rather than "possible" when presenting a speculation to the witness. This, IMO, is done to subliminally verbally hammer it in to the jurors the "beyond a reasonable doubt" phrase that most likely they are familiar with and possibly be used in their instructions before they deliberate.
jmo
 
  • #494
Very effective redirect about no orientation change being recorded if the screen is off. So Maggie’s phone could have been thrown after 9:06 pm — the time that AM’s car started. JMO.
 
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  • #495
Definitely 3 voices on the video. One of them is definitely AM…….moo
 
  • #496
Barber establishes that Alex Murdaugh was walking (steps data) as he called Maggie at 9:06:12 p.m., a second before he stops walking and cranks up the Suburban. Around that time, Maggie's phone records its final orientation change. Only Alex's phone was recording steps.
How is it known that the Suburban starts at 9:06? I must have missed that testimony.
 
  • #497
Does anyone remember testimony on whether Bluetooth was turned on in Maggie's settings ? Is it possible Maggie's bluetooth was off but Paul's phone could not be unlocked so his phone was left behind to prevent it from connecting to AM's truck ?
MM's phone settings indicate her Bluetooth was enabled.
 
  • #498
I keep worrying about the jurors not taking notes and was thinking of three things, -- they have been told they will get charts and timelines provided at deliberations --
they are cowed into coming back with "innocent" regarding the SC nobility member "Murdaugh" no matter what --
they are acting from a conclusion that he is guilty no matter what, perhaps due to animosity/fear toward AM. Sincerely hope it is the first!!!

All MOO.
 
  • #499
I keep worrying about the jurors not taking notes and was thinking of three things, -- they have been told they will get charts and timelines provided at deliberations --
they are cowed into coming back with "innocent" regarding the SC nobility member "Murdaugh" no matter what --
they are acting from a conclusion that he is guilty no matter what, perhaps due to animosity/fear toward AM. Sincerely hope it is the first!!!

All MOO.
I have concerns about this too. I can't imagine not taking notes as a juror.
 
  • #500
Oh geez… now CourtTV just said their producer in the courtroom said the jury seemed more attentive during the defense cross, but also said had the defense just glossed over the video evidence, never mentioned it. Were the jury waiting for the defense to discuss this?

Who knows…

*I’m not hearing anything negative about the defense performance. I’m hearing:

*Strong on intimidation-job performance and industry knowledge

*Tripping up the witnesses with incomplete sentences. Abrupt starts and stops.

*Continuing to drive the point that the investigation was flawed from the beginning, creating an overall theory for the jury. ‘If one part is truly mishandled then the whole case is a wash’.

I do believe that DH is hinging everything on the investigation being flawed and inadequate unless he can’t argue based on the phone logs.
 
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