SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #22

[BrownRice]

In addition to the sunflower ruse, I think AM also noted something about forcing Paul to go to the doctor for his blood pressure and swollen feet as an agenda item for the family get-together that evening. He was very pointed about mentioning this in one of the interviews and it seemed out-of-place in the conversation. I kept thinking, "What is he driving at with that?" I think it was an attempt to shift the notion from "I lured him here" to "We were going to express our health concerns as a united front as parents". It is super evil to use concern as bait in this case, not that we haven't already maxed out the evil scale with this one.

Love your last sentence. AM definitely maxed out all the evil he’s carried around for years….on his own family. Yesterday was rough - to hear about how horrible their last moments must have been. Pure evil.

 

[BrownRice]

As I listened to Dr. Riemer this afternoon, all I could think about was the utter bewilderment and terror PM and MM must have felt during the last moments of their lives.

JMO.

I often have this thought reading these cases. Especially when it’s little children (for example, most recently Lindsay Clancy who killed her 3 young kids with exercise bands around their necks). Little kids can’t even understand it nor process it. Big kids understand, but probably can’t process it either.

 

[BrownRice]

Just noticed something in the 2nd police interview in the car. Alex was dipping the entire time. Drinking out of his drink and swallowing it. Swallowing his snot as he inhales and pretends to cry. As a person who used to dip for over 40 yrs it's a disgusting habit, I never drank anything while dippin, and I certainly wouldn't be inhaling snot with a dip in my mouth. He should have been spitting every few minutes. Instead he swallowed it!!! Gross.

I don't think I'd be packing a lipper during a police interview for the brutal murders of my wife and son. That pretty disrespectful. I don't care how much a red-neck you are!! Thankfully I gave that habit up 20 years ago.

Oh wait....I get it now. He had the tobacco residue on his fingers so when he went to his eyes....ya know to milk the tears, he would actually have tears.

I'm picking up so much from these police interviews.

Thanks for this. I learn so much here. It’s interesting how much everyone has to offer from their own experiences. Assume dipping is chewing tobacco?

 

[BrownRice]

Somebody asked earlier about the identity of the dudes in the back seat and I can tell you that the party behind the detective in the front seat is AM's attorney, and the other is another SLED investigator named Jim.

ETA: More bits and pieces from AM's interview...

AM has no memory of his day at work on Monday-- yet we know he had a pretty serious conversation with the law firm's CFO.

AM is certain to name Blanca who will know when AM left for work.

AM states he left work early on Monday because PM was coming home and they drove around the property -- shooting, and checking on the corn and trees. But when pushed, it really means leaving the office sometime after 5 pm and riding around with Paul more than 20 minutes but less than 2 hours when they went to the house to have dinner with MM.

AM wants us to believe the dinner conversation was about the parents expressing concern for PM's high blood pressure and edema in his feet. Now that's rich coming from the dad that's about to blast his son's brains out of his head!

AM had a sense he heard "them" come back to the house about the time he was waking from his nap but when pushed as to whether or not it sounded like a vehicle, 4WLR, buggy, etc -- it's just a sense and not that he actually heard anything.

AM is definite about MM going to the kennels after supper but PM is left out of this memory. He doesn't know where PM went but he must have gone to the kennels since his body is found there.

Also, Buster makes the alibi phone call list when AM is driving to see Miss Libby and Ms. Smith (AM was certain to name Smith, the caregiver). Buster is allegedly living with his girlfriend and her mother in Rock Hill, buying his time until January 2022 when he goes back to law school, and working at Wild Wings in Rock Hill. We also know from jail calls that law school re-admission did not happen in January.

404 | Wild Wing Cafe

www.wildwingcafe.com

I didn’t know this about Buster. Why wouldn’t he be working at his dad’s law firm during his “break” from law school?

 

[BrownRice]

Yes, I agree. He sounds like a chaotic man who did what he pleased. With his drug addiction, I would imagine the no one wanted to be around him. The frenetic actions at work were probably way worse at home. It is interesting to me that the prosecution has not focused on the amount of time in the prior months or weeks that Maggie and Paul had been there.

Do we know he had a drug addiction tho?

 

[mrjitty]

I'll be very interested to hear more of the financial background to this case at the end of the day

While there may not be any rational motive, I do wonder if his son and wife had simply become inconvenient and under the stress of the imminent collapse of his fraudulent enterprise, their murders by vigilantes offered a diversion and possible shield from all that?

 

[General wooster]

IMO any light of salvation for this man has disappeared into the collapsing black hole of his lies and deceit. The only way for him to find the peace he seeks is through confession. The man in the mirror holds his answer. If there is anyone left who really loves him, they need to tell him. Then, his self-ruination will stop. Then, the pain and anguish that he is causing will pause and allow others to heal.

 

[BeachSky]

Watching back the pathologist Dr Reiner description of enter, exit, damage…I also watched AM. He has a look of anger toward the doctor who is speaking.Yet he stares ahead, puffed up cheeks,rocks, nods, does the kleenex thing. IMO he is catching himself and playing to the jury.

Also watching the first responding LE bodycam at the kennels - he asks if they are for sure dead. Why not ask if they can be revived? Why not ask is LE searching the surrounding area? creating road blocks ?
He’s a very transparent person. MOO

GRAPHIC: Bodycam footage shows crime scene where Maggie & Paul Murdaugh were murdered

Police body-cam footage released by the court Monday shows the crime scene at the Murdaugh's Moselle property just as invstigators found it when they first arri

abcnews4.com

 

[Megnut]

AM said he first went to the house, saw no one was there and then went to the kennels.

6:25 he says he got back to the house, it was dark, it was obvious no one was there.

My impression is that he didn't stop at the house, certainly didn't go in the house.

He knew exactness where the crime scene was.

jmo

 

[everlearning]

"It's a long story ..."

< Sigh >

Right! Good grief. Why does this officer need all that back story? Your wife and child are dead. Gruesome dead. Close to where you are standing dead. Who killed them? Why? Are the killers close by? Help!! But no, it's almost like, "Officer, pull up a chair. Boy do I have a story to tell you." Ugh! Just makes me spittin' mad.

 

[Elley Mae]

Right! Good grief. Why does this officer need all that back story? Your wife and child are dead. Gruesome dead. Close to where you are standing dead. Who killed them? Why? Are the killers close by? Help!! But no, it's almost like, "Officer, pull up a chair. Boy do I have a story to tell you." Ugh! Just makes me spittin' mad.

You’d think there was a bus on that property somewhere with room underneath for a few more.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625472294309994497

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625475928787648513

 

[General wooster]

6:25 he says he got back to the house, it was dark, it was obvious no one was there.

My impression is that he didn't stop at the house, certainly didn't go in the house.

He knew exactness where the crime scene was.

jmo

I love when he says that his son’s cell phone just “popped out of his pocket and I tried to do something with it…”. Really. You see your son’s brain is separated from his body on the ground nearby and you are playing around with his cell phone? That’s the first thing you do? Before you even check on your wife? Wow. Shakespearian, “Hoist by his own petard”.

 

[BUF]

I had oral surgery yesterday and missed testimony, trying to catch up this morning. This tweet particularly grabbed me….

"... his brain was ejected out of the top of the right side of his head and arrived at autopsy in a separate bucket," Dr. Riemer performed Paul's autopsy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625249102769569792

 

[Katrinepa]

Former AG of South Carolina

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625279465579241472

No unusual at all in NJ.

 

[Derph]

Thanks for this. I learn so much here. It’s interesting how much everyone has to offer from their own experiences. Assume dipping is chewing tobacco?

Yes. I'm totally being serious about milking the tears too! Watch how his hands come up to the eyes. He starts to rub his tear ducts or whatever you call that part of the eye. Every time he needs to pretend to be upset, he pulls that move.

The more I thought about that interview last night the more angry I got. The way this cat can go from a sobbing, snotty mess, to talking about the most mundane stuff is quite something. And again I'll point out it's not really what he says that I'm concerned about. It's what he doesn't say. For a man who just lost his son and wife, he's acting pretty casually as he rambles on and on and on.

If this was a hit on his family, he has absolutely ZERO concern of anyone coming back for him OR his other son!!!! No fear. He doesn't ask for protection or police help. No concern for Buster. The concept that he may be in danger never comes up again in any of the videos I've seen. With the exception of the night of the murders, wear he is so scared he goes and gets a gun, we never hear about it again!! It's like the threat just vanished into thin air.

Or it's been sitting in front of us the whole time!

 

[arielilane]

Good morning and happy valentine’s day to all of our lovely advocates <3

Dr.’s testimony yesterday of course much needed during trial, but difficult to hear. Honestly, caused a bit of depression knowing that another human is capable of such horrible acts, not only against others but their own family.

MOO

Watch trial live stream here.

 

[General wooster]

Yes. I'm totally being serious about milking the tears too! Watch how his hands come up to the eyes. He starts to rub his tear ducts or whatever you call that part of the eye. Every time he needs to pretend to be upset, he pulls that move.

The more I thought about that interview last night the more angry I got. The way this cat can go from a sobbing, snotty mess, to talking about the most mundane stuff if quite something. And again I'll point out it's not really what he says that I'm concerned about. It's what he doesn't say. For a man who just his son and wife, he's acting pretty casually as he rambles on and on and on.

If this was a hit on his family, he has absolutely ZERO concern of anyone coming back for him OR his other son!!!! No fear. He doesn't ask for protection or police help. No concern for Buster. The concept that he may be in danger never comes up again in any of the videos I've seen. With the exception of the night of the murders, wear he is so scared he goes and gets a gun, we never hear about it again!! It's like the threat just vanished into thin air.

Or it's been sitting in front of us the whole time!

Also interesting, “he doesn't ask for protection or police help.” Nor is it offered.

 

[Katrinepa]

I‘m aware of multiple trials with autopsy photos. Maybe it’s unusual in SC. The ones I’m aware of are kept from the gallery’s view, but not the jurors.

Before today, I kept thinking there’d be a hung jury because of at least one holdout thinking “how could he kill his own son?” It‘s the one thing that I can’t wrap my head around.

But watching AM during the autopsy testimony today, I changed my thoughts. AM was NOT viewing the photographs. Yet he seemed, IMO, sincerely upset and I saw real tears, shaking and other visceral reactions. It made me think he was seeing it in his mind as a MEMORY. I hope the jury saw his reaction that way, also.

And did anyone notice the judge vigilantly watching the gallery during the Dr’s testimony? Has he been doing that all along? What was with that sudden break? Was it to give the jurors some recovery time after the testimony about Paul?

Finally, I got the impression Judge Newman was affected by the testimony. He just didn’t seem like his normal self.

Some people are more sensitive than others, and even without the photos, the descriptions may have Made them ill, or even faint. Perhaps he noticed a Juror reacting, and took a break for that person to recover. Quite shocking. The Judge is very good. I love how he has dealt with all the ups and downs...