SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #23

[Seattle1]

So he stole some money. Ok. But, what evidence, other than gun shot residue on his hands which could have come from the shotgun he held as police arrived, paints him as a murderer?

Surely, there was insurance and an umbrella policy to cover any loss due to boating.

The housekeeper. Was it a life insurance policy or a claim on behalf of the sons against his homeowners insurance?

You're way behind @Tea time. No umbrella after the insurer (Nautilus) did not renew the policy leaving AM/MM grossly underinsured and why they were named personally in the suit by the Beach family. And life insurance is also not applicable here. All linked by me in previous threads.

 

[Gardenista]

So AM always had a handgun in his truck?

Why did he have to run to the house then?

JMO

Great thinking. I know we've heard about DNA in the truck, but have we heard about any items that were found in it? If not, I wonder if we are going to have someone testify to finding a pistol in his truck.

 

[Seattle1]

A lot of numbers have been tossed out so I might have missed it but is there a more definitive time of death? I know there is speculation and I may have missed it but it could be far longer than seconds. Prosecutors started this trial saying between 8:30 and 10:06 and the coroner stated 9-9:30

It's impossible to have an exact time for an unattended death but I think the most accurate window will be the presumed time of death by the pathologist. The death certificate also used 2100/ 9 PM. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Listening again to his second SLED interview: this time he says he went into the house after going to Almeda before going to the kennel.

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[pizzaman12]

You're way behind @Tea time. No umbrella after the insurer (Nautilus) did not renew the policy leaving AM/MM grossly underinsured and why they were named personally in the suit by the Beach family. And life insurance is also not applicable here. All linked by me in previous threads.

But killing Paul didn't really stop the Beach suit

 

[pizzaman12]

It's impossible to have an exact time for an unattended death but I think the most accurate window will be the presumed time of death by the pathologist. The death certificate also used 2100/ 9 PM. MOO

Agreed. That is why I was asking as @Ceska stated the video was "seconds before the murder". The Snapchat video started at 8:44 and was just short of a minute long. If you use 9pm as a time, that is far different than "seconds"

 

[Seattle1]

Why is the state bouncing back to the financials? They go from pathologist to dog feeder to forensic accountant. Why is their presentation so disjointed?

Yes -- especially when the forensic accountant had very important information about the gist of the financial testimony in this trial:

PM could not cover three requirements -- no resources to pay $500K to Satterfields, no resources to repay Wilson $792K, and no resources to meet $10M settlement for the boat crash.

 

[Cindizzi]

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[Aquarian]

Listening to the Law and Crime talkers- they seem to have such a different view than we all have imo. They are portraying that the Prosecution has not delivered on AM being the shooter at all and that they cannot understand the financial angle at all. Are we the crazy people? I wonder what the jury thinks?

 

[Seattle1]

But killing Paul didn't really stop the Beach suit

But more important, at trial, the double murder tragedy would likely prevent a large award by jurors for the Beach family and those injured in the boat crash. Fortunately, AM was not successful in selling this as retaliation (for the boat crash) by an unknown assailant.

 

[worm]

Listening to the Law and Crime talkers- they seem to have such a different view than we all have imo. They are portraying that the Prosecution has not delivered on AM being the shooter at all and that they cannot understand the financial angle at all. Are we the crazy people? I wonder what the jury thinks?

I’m not sold on the money motive and really expected more physical evidence of him being the killer than we have seen.

 

[Elley Mae]

Listening to the Law and Crime talkers- they seem to have such a different view than we all have imo. They are portraying that the Prosecution has not delivered on AM being the shooter at all and that they cannot understand the financial angle at all. Are we the crazy people? I wonder what the jury thinks?

In my opine, their just talking heads, the jury is putting this together, just like most of us.

Jmo

 

[Aquarian]

In my opine, their just talking heads, the jury is putting this together, just like most of us.

Jmo

I sure hope so

 

[Edvis]

Listening to the Law and Crime talkers- they seem to have such a different view than we all have imo. They are portraying that the Prosecution has not delivered on AM being the shooter at all and that they cannot understand the financial angle at all. Are we the crazy people? I wonder what the jury thinks?

Yup we're all bouncing off the padded cell lol since many believe that money and killing can be tied together despite the lack of a weapon and the loving man AM's defense has tried to shove down everyones throat. Again yes understand reasonable doubt but AM has done everything to proove even that wrong JMO.

 

[Boodles]

So, the article says that MD was believed to have been killed first, but I thought it was the other way around.
I know the Daily Mail isn't the most reliable of sources but....

How sick to stalk Buster, especially when he visits his mom’s and bro’s gravesite. Rude and disrespectful. No matter what one thinks of Buster, he lost his mom, brother and essentially his father Since AM will be in prison for at least some crimes. And having to live with the thought that dad might have done this? I can’t even imagine his internal conflict.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Listening to the Law and Crime talkers- they seem to have such a different view than we all have imo. They are portraying that the Prosecution has not delivered on AM being the shooter at all and that they cannot understand the financial angle at all. Are we the crazy people? I wonder what the jury thinks?

We are not the crazy people. Of that I am sure.
Law and Crime, Court TV, etc just about all of their talking heads are former defense attorneys. A bunch of fanboys(and girls) for the defense in every case.

 

[Seattle1]

I'm surprized there's no headstones.

Very odd but I find it sad nonetheless. We know that they had a public graveyard service the day following AM's (recently released) car interview. and were planning a second, private service about a week later because PM/MM bodies (cremains) were not yet ready for release. MOO

 

[Edvis]

In my opine, their just talking heads, the jury is putting this together, just like most of us.

Jmo

Agreed and why I mute the TV when they pop on lol.

 

[Boodles]

Yes -- especially when the forensic accountant had very important information about the gist of the financial testimony in this trial:

PM could not cover three requirements -- no resources to pay $500K to Satterfields, no resources to repay Wilson $192K, and no resources to meet $10M settlement for the boat crash.

I really hoped we’d find out where all of AM’s stolen $ went. I don’t understand money laundering at all. Maybe he has it tucked away in the Cayman Islands or somewhere?

 

[Pitsleuth]

I’m not sold on the money motive and really expected more physical evidence of him being the killer than we have seen.

I don't think most people think money was the true underlying motive, although it played a role. It's the financial ruin and collapse of his name. This has happened many times before, usually ending in a murder/suicide/ family annihilation but not always.
See below. Men like this would rather see their family dead than have to own up to being a complete failure.

This French Nobleman's Family Was Found Buried Under His Patio — Then He Disappeared

The bodies were concealed in garbage bags and buried with religious icons.

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