SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #23

[Warwick7]

You keep harping on this whole affair thing. It wasn't admitted. Nothing to see here.

The side of the road shooting is very relevant to this case. It shows how depraved and desperate he was. It also shows how he has no problem lying to police officers. Because of that anything and everything that comes out of Alex's mouth is suspect. Therefore everything he told police about the the murders of his wife and son is suspect. It shows a clear pattern of deceit and speaks to his character, which by the way, the defense has been trying to hammer into the jury. They are the ones who brought his character front and center to this case! They left the door wide open for the prosecution to question his character. It all should be admissible. And it has been.

BAM!!

The defense are the very ones who brought AM's character front and center.

 

[CrownCowboy1]

You keep harping on this whole affair thing. It wasn't admitted. Nothing to see here.

The side of the road shooting is very relevant to this case. It shows how depraved and desperate he was. It also shows how he has no problem lying to police officers. Because of that anything and everything that comes out of Alex's mouth is suspect. Therefore everything he told police about the the murders of his wife and son is suspect. It shows a clear pattern of deceit and speaks to his character, which by the way, the defense has been trying to hammer into the jury. They are the ones who brought his character front and center to this case! They left the door wide open for the prosecution to question his character. It all should be admissible. And it has been.

The attempt to bring the affair in just shows the desperation of the prosecution. And I was mentioning it in real time before a ruling was put forth. So nobody was harping on anything. If anyone was harping it was the prosecution to bring in something that is yet again irrelevant to this case.

And that goes to the broader point I and a few others are making. This is a murder trial. This isn't the trial of his finances nor is it the trial of the roadside shooting. A prosecution can question his character whether the defense opens the door to it or not lol. The roadside shooting was sought after in an attempt to prove a motive AFTER the fact. Not to prove he is a liar. And as the defense points out, AM admitted to the whole thing as soon as he was questioned by SLED.

All of this is going to be brought up in an appeal. Whether the appeal is granted is yet to be seen if a guilty verdict is reached but it does in my opinion make it way more likely than if it wasn't allowed in.

 

[Edvis]

BAM!!

The defense are the very ones who brought AM's character front and center.

Agreed, can't crack the door without something tryng to slip in.

 

[Walela]

I saw Morgan (Paul's ex gf) on the witness list for the state. I really really really would love to hear from her. As someone who dated Paul a long time and who went on family vacations with the Murdaugh's, she's likely to have a pretty good assessment of each member of the family. Sure at first, she would have only seen their public face, but as time went on, she would have seen the private face and heard things from Paul.

IRRC in her deposition she relates going home with AM,MM, and PM from some event and they left AM at his parents home because of his aggression after consuming alcohol and pain pills. If the state should call her it may be to retell this. jmo

 

[arielilane]

Some leave bread crumbs AM is dropping loafs of bread as if there falling off a bakery truck.

You have an incredible creative way of writing. I enjoy your posts.

 

[CrownCowboy1]

Well, the cows do come home like clockwork.
Lol!!!

Not always. Not in cases with no hard evidence such as this.

The prosecution has to bring in other aspects. They have hardly anything else.

 

[Warwick7]

Awww .... AM was worried and didn't want LE wasting resources...

Once he shot them I wonder how many LE "resouces" were brought to bare?!

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[Warwick7]

Murdaugh Family Murders: Maggie’s Sister Says Alex Was Obsessed With Clearing Paul’s Name — Not Finding Their Killer

On Tuesday, Maggie Murdaugh’s sister testified that Alex was mainly concerned with clearing Paul’s name in a deadly boat crash, not finding out who killed him and his wife. “We’ve got to find out who’ve done this,” Marion Proctor recalled telling Alex days after the murders. She reportedly asked...

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[Warwick7]

DEVELOPING: Alex Murdaugh Could Take Stand in Own Defense at Double Murder Trial

Alex Murdaugh’s legal team is reportedly considering having him take the stand in his own defense during his ongoing double murder trial. A source close to the defense team told WCBD that if Alex does testify, it would happen in the next week or two. The prosecution is currently presenting...

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[Edvis]

You have an incredible creative way of writing. I enjoy your posts.

Guess it's just how the ole mind translates to my fingers to convay what I'm seeing or feeling at the moment lol. If it leaves an imprint and others feel it as well then thinking that is a good deed...I hope lol.

 

[10ofRods]

The attempt to bring the affair in just shows the desperation of the prosecution. And I was mentioning it in real time before a ruling was put forth. So nobody was harping on anything. If anyone was harping it was the prosecution to bring in something that is yet again irrelevant to this case.

And that goes to the broader point I and a few others are making. This is a murder trial. This isn't the trial of his finances nor is it the trial of the roadside shooting. A prosecution can question his character whether the defense opens the door to it or not lol. The roadside shooting was sought after in an attempt to prove a motive AFTER the fact. Not to prove he is a liar. And as the defense points out, AM admitted to the whole thing as soon as he was questioned by SLED.

All of this is going to be brought up in an appeal. Whether the appeal is granted is yet to be seen if a guilty verdict is reached but it does in my opinion make it way more likely than if it wasn't allowed in.

I am one of those who isn't too worried about appeals, which presume a conviction. If he is convicted, he'll be behind bars awaiting his next trial. The appeals will cost money. They will go slowly. And it's doubtful a new trial will be ordered merely because an attempt was made to introduce something from 15 years before.

Then he'll get his sentence(s) for the financial crimes. This guy isn't getting out and part of the community drama is that various parties want to testify to the kind of man he is: cheater; embezzler; forger; thief; hirer of gunmen to aid in a crime cover-up, etc.

In addition to killing his wife and son. While motive is unnecessary, many have now been introduced.

I think there will be more forensic evidence in the last inning of this trial. But there's a lot already.

Oh - and one them (he's a liar) threads through all of this. He *was* at the kennel that night - just minutes before the murders. He did *not* arrive when he said he did. He tried to get his mom's carer to support his alibi, it was awful to watch/hear. He hid evidence at his mom's house, when she was unable to know what he was doing.

Yep, there will be an appeal, but he will be convicted on the evidence and this trial will not restart merely because of the judge allowing witnesses to speak to his (concurrent) criminality.

 

[Katrinepa]

So the Recording on Paul's device, identified by many witnesses, testimony about AM trying to get his Mother's Caregiver, and the woman who performed many errands for AM and MM at their home, including cleaning the house after the murders, directed by AM to make the house look neat, like Maggie would want, and she testified there was much out of place/not normal.
AM so obviously Lied to the First Responders, saying he tried to turn Paul's body over(while also saying he looked at Paul's Cell Phone), not going to Maggie's body First, as it was closer to where he supposedly drove in(BS as Pauls' Audio Proves he was there the whole time!!).
His Statement to First Responders and then Officers in the vehicle was the same....Lies upon lies, and wailing at some points, while very focused at others, even telling an idiotic story about Navy Seals/ Black Panthers-NUTS! Not once does he cry. No tears at all. First Responders testify he seemed very upset at one point, then flipped to being calm and focused at another-Very unusual. Also, Who the Heck talks about dead Sunflowers when their family members are Murdered So Brutally?! OMG!!! MOO

 

[Warwick7]

Murdaugh Family Murders: Paul’s Brain Had to Be Carried to Autopsy Room in Bucket After Being Killed With Shotgun at Close Range

A pathologist testified on Monday that Paul Murdaugh suffered two shotgun wounds when he was murdered on his family’s property with his mother in 2021. Dr. Ellen Riemer said the first shot that struck Paul did not kill him but the wadding from that shot was lodged in his chest cavity. His arm...

www.crimeonline.com

 

[Warwick7]

Murdaugh Family Murders: Paul’s Brain Had to Be Carried to Autopsy Room in Bucket After Being Killed With Shotgun at Close Range

A pathologist testified on Monday that Paul Murdaugh suffered two shotgun wounds when he was murdered on his family’s property with his mother in 2021. Dr. Ellen Riemer said the first shot that struck Paul did not kill him but the wadding from that shot was lodged in his chest cavity. His arm...

www.crimeonline.com

 

[Seattle1]

Hear, hear! Or to take the late night trash to the curb and hoping the motion detector lights don’t come on.

Guilty!

 

[CrownCowboy1]

I am one of those who isn't too worried about appeals, which presume a conviction. If he is convicted, he'll be behind bars awaiting his next trial. The appeals will cost money. They will go slowly. And it's doubtful a new trial will be ordered merely because an attempt was made to introduce something from 15 years before.

Then he'll get his sentence(s) for the financial crimes. This guy isn't getting out and part of the community drama is that various parties want to testify to the kind of man he is: cheater; embezzler; forger; thief; hirer of gunmen to aid in a crime cover-up, etc.

In addition to killing his wife and son. While motive is unnecessary, many have now been introduced.

I think there will be more forensic evidence in the last inning of this trial. But there's a lot already.

Oh - and one them (he's a liar) threads through all of this. He *was* at the kennel that night - just minutes before the murders. He did *not* arrive when he said he did. He tried to get his mom's carer to support his alibi, it was awful to watch/hear. He hid evidence at his mom's house, when she was unable to know what he was doing.

Yep, there will be an appeal, but he will be convicted on the evidence and this trial will not restart merely because of the judge allowing witnesses to speak to his (concurrent) criminality.

I do agree that no matter what, he will be behind bars because he'll be awaiting his next trail. That's a fact.

Motive is not necessary, that is true. However, this prosecution has spent the majority of it's time focusing on what his motives were to prove he committed this crime. They are doing that for a reason and their reason is that they know their case is lacking evidence. Their biggest piece of evidence is the snapchat video. That MAY prove that he lied when he told authorities that he was never down by the kennels. But that doesn't prove beyond a doubt that he killed anyone.
There may indeed be more forensic evidence but I highly doubt it. There is hardly any forensics that proves anything definitively to this point and the prosecution said that it'll be around Wednesday when they will wrap up.

As far as an appeal goes. It is unlikely an appeal will be won assuming a guilty verdict is reached. But the fact that two other cases were virtually tried in this one murder trial could absolutely make it more possible for a judge to consider a retrial.

 

[General wooster]

The attempt to bring the affair in just shows the desperation of the prosecution. And I was mentioning it in real time before a ruling was put forth. So nobody was harping on anything. If anyone was harping it was the prosecution to bring in something that is yet again irrelevant to this case.

And that goes to the broader point I and a few others are making. This is a murder trial. This isn't the trial of his finances nor is it the trial of the roadside shooting. A prosecution can question his character whether the defense opens the door to it or not lol. The roadside shooting was sought after in an attempt to prove a motive AFTER the fact. Not to prove he is a liar. And as the defense points out, AM admitted to the whole thing as soon as he was questioned by SLED.

All of this is going to be brought up in an appeal. Whether the appeal is granted is yet to be seen if a guilty verdict is reached but it does in my opinion make it way more likely than if it wasn't allowed in.

I believe that the duplicitous nature of the defendant, the true nature of his spousal relationship, and his recidivism is pertinent to getting at the truth of his guilt or innocence. His deception in regard to his being present at the kennel is a key prosecutorial piece. His perpetual lying is important in providing perspective as to anything he has to say.

 

[rescuemom]

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Emotional Buster Murdaugh visits slain mother and brother's gravesites

This is awful!! Where is a headstone for each of these burial plots??? Couldn't someone provide even a simple headstone?? AM, the Murdaugh family, or even MM's family??? This says everything about how classless these people are.

 

[Seattle1]

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Awww .... AM was worried and didn't want LE wasting resources...

Once he shot them I wonder how many LE "resouces" were brought to bare?!

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I don't think this as cryptic as the tweet (Russon) made it sound.

This has to be LE witness the prosecutor wants to use in lieu of calling cousin Eddie. Good move here. I don't think Eddie will do the state any favors. Take the safe road. Don't borrow trouble here. MOO

 

[Warwick7]

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