SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #27

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This doesn't seem to be going to well for this witness. Sounds like some sloppy investigating. That graph is laughable. What is this guy exactly an expert on?
I think maybe he's qualified to testify about the trajectory of a different ammunition fired by a 5'2 shooter where no bodies are present or impacted.

If Train A meets Train B traveling at 42, 45 and 80 mph, how tall was the phone thrower?

Show your work.

JMO
 
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Different people of the same height have varying torso lengths and leg lengths which would produce different shooting from the hip heights right?

Exactly. Indeed, I can usually find two people who are sitting on the same chairs in the classroom and appear to be absolutely the same height. But when they stand up, they are very different heights. A short torso and long legs can make a taller person shorter when they are seated or kneeling.

Also, arm lengths vary a great deal (and are not directly proportionate to height - some tall people have longer arms than others, etc).

I am perplexed by how a mechanical engineer can weigh in, when he's obviously been taught to use standard units (for humans, anyway).
 
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“It doesn’t really matter….” in regards to sound in house, but pay me to be an expert on sound.

What is the point of this dog and pony show.

JMO

I can see it now. " Well at $350 an hour your going to say what we want you to say! Got it? "
 
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My husband is a CPA-expert witness (on real estate, financial, and accounting matters) and it is not uncommon to be making modifications to reports at the last minute. Attorneys are notorious for focusing on what on what is immediately critical and getting to other things as they become critical, so make their reviews of reports close to trial and there is often some back and forth between the expert witness and the attorneys over details as you approach trial.

Witnesses who have integrity stick with what their expertise (training, experience, judgment based on years in the field) tells them, but there are SOME witnesses whose integrity is quite a bit more elastic and they are heavily motivated to shape their opinions with what the attorneys (and clients) want to be heard/read. A courtroom is an adversarial environment and this "elasticity" tends to be revealed when the expert witness faces the opponent. Over time, reputations are formed and attorneys on both sides (as well as judges) gain an understanding of the integrity of the person sitting in the witness chair.
I agree, but experts are also required to provide their reports well before trial starts. This gives the other side the opportunity to file motions to exclude the expert’s testimony. Only the legal professionals, including the judge, realize this because it is not expounded upon to the jury. It’s interesting that Prosecutor Fernandez wanted it on the record.

JMO
 
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Q: Do you have any formal training in shotguns and the spread of the projectiles?
A: No formal training but I've studied them and shot them.
 
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Here's a graph of this witness' testimoy :

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Q: Do you have any formal training in shotguns and the spread of the projectiles?
A: No formal training but I've studied them and shot them.
He stayed at a Holiday Inn.
:rolleyes:
 
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Exactly. Indeed, I can usually find two people who are sitting on the same chairs in the classroom and appear to be absolutely the same height. But when they stand up, they are very different heights. A short torso and long legs can make a taller person shorter when they are seated or kneeling.

Also, arm lengths vary a great deal (and are not directly proportionate to height - some tall people have longer arms than others, etc).

I am perplexed by how a mechanical engineer can weigh in, when he's obviously been taught to use standard units (for humans, anyway).
Do you know any professional engineers? They know everything.
 
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This is the bizarre moment Alex Murdaugh's defense attorney pointed a rifle at the prosecution bench and said 'tempting' as the courtroom erupted with laughter.

He grinned as he pointed the gun at the prosecution table and said, 'tempting', prompting a chorus of laughter. South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson laughed but others at the prosecution table like Creighton Waters were not amused.

Emphasis mine.

I get it.
Gallows humor.
I've used it myself on occasion, where the subject matter in some cases have been particularly overwhelming and difficult to bear.
Sometimes poking a bit of fun at a perp whose self-aggrandizing was noxious and ridiculous.

But this 'joke' ..... was not funny.
And Harpootlian should be ashamed of himself.
M00.
 
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I think maybe he's qualified to testify about the trajectory of a different ammunition fired by a 5'2 shooter where no bodies are present or impacted.

If Train A meets Train B traveling at 42, 45 and 80 mph, how tall was the phone thrower?

Show your work.

JMO
Ehhhhhh...maybe if the little guy was being thrown up and backwards, end over end out a car window while going 43 to 45 mph...maybe then
 
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Engineers love graphs!!
 
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How does he know that someone else hadn't fired a shotgun in that area at some prior point in time?

If it went through someone's body, surely it would have had DNA on it? I'm astonished that this man is trying to claim that he actually is a primary investigator here (on the subject of buckshot injuring and passing through PM).

This is almost as if they qualified an expert to talk about whatever they feel he needs to talk about.

All of my opinions are at a very high confidence level! (IMO of course).
 
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They couldn't find an real expert for $350 an hour? (Of course he's 4 experts rolled up in one, so there's that. I guess he was a bargain?)
 
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AM is looking worried.
This is getting good.
 
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If I recall the crime scene investigator said they didn't collect all the pellets because they had enough of them to base their decision on so they left the others.
 
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