GUILTY SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #38

[MikeF]

I'm torn. I think the jury saw through his mask as he lied directly to them. They were being played and they recognized it.

Speaking of masks. This has probably been discussed but do you think he at least covered his face somehow, maybe with a paper type mask, or even a ski mask? He's obviously a cold hearted individual but is he so bad that he could face his wife and son so they knew without a doubt it was their father/husband who was ending their lives?

 

[Cindizzi]

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[LetsSolvIt]

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Hope someone hugged Agent Owen. He took a lot of heat during a difficult time in his life. May God bless him!

 

[Edvis]

It really helps. You really helped. This was a tough one for me.

You did a lot.

Think that's the core of this site, to help those who need it, self included.

 

[Cindizzi]

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[10ofRods]

About 3 hours. Don’t recall exact time they started but they alerted the Judge at 6:41 pm

Take off at least 10 minutes for alerting bailiff to bring paperwork, filling it out and everyone formally agreeing.

 

[TeaTime]

I believe in the jury system. They are the only judges of AM.

Tragic, all the way around. It didn't have to happen.

 

[otto]

And, remember that AM was the one that said the dogs were not alerting to an intruder when he was at the kennels. Neither did the guinea hens, evidently.

The prosecutor was leading up to ask Alex about anyone else around the kennels while he was in earshot of the kennels and Alex volunteered that the animals were calm. That cleared the window of 8:44-9:02 PM with no animal angst.

After the murders, the wood in the kennels was chewed. I was distressed to see the chewed wood, which suggests distressed dogs. I hope they weren't shot. We know what happened to Bubba. What happened to the other dogs, like the Dog Named Maggie?

 

[Gardenista]

Thank God for the people who turned this woman in.

'Murdaugh Murders' Trial: Alex Murdaugh Guilty On All Counts - FITSNews

Verdict almost didn't happen, though ...

www.fitsnews.com

“She was dug in,” a source familiar with the deliberations confirmed, referring to the juror removed who was removed earlier in the day by S.C. circuit court judge Clifton Newman. “She said he was ‘not guilty’ and there was nothing anyone could do to change her mind.”

“She would have hung the jury,” another source confirmed.

 

[Cindizzi]

D and J went over to the Media Center during deliberations.
Did they have a feeling that they should stick close by?

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[Derph]

Am I the only person who thinks that John Meadors, with his amazing closing today, might have been the one to tip the scales for any jurists sitting on the fence?

I honestly think they all had their minds made up after that pathetic performance Alex put on when he testified. I truly believe the whole Pau Pau thing stuck in their craw. It really stuck in my mine and when I watched his testimony again with the snot dripping out of his nose and the fake guttural cries it sickened me. Then when there was no emotion for Maggie. I think they saw right thru it. Integrity and Trust. He had none and I think it was brilliant of the prosecution to focus on ALL of his financial crimes.


One of my favorite films is Apocalypse Now and one of my favorite books is The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad which Apocalypse Now is loosely based. Both are extremely dark in their themes.

Here's a quote from the beginning of Apocalypse Now concerning the evil Colonel Kurtz who has gone rogue in Cambodia. I'm going to substitute Alex* for Kurtz in this quote as I think it's relevant and appropriate. The quote begins mid-sentence but for our purposes I'm going to leave that part out.

"....there's a conflict in every human heart, between the rational and the irrational, between good and evil, and good does not always triumph. Sometimes the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. Every man has got a breaking point. You and I have one. Alex Murdaugh* has reached his, and very obviously, he has gone insane."

Here's a quote from The Heart of Darkness that I also think is appropriate

“I have wrestled with death. It is the most unexciting contest you can imagine. It takes place in an impalpable greyness, with nothing underfoot, with nothing around, without spectators, without clamour, without glory, without the great desire of victory, without the great fear of defeat, in a sickly atmosphere of tepid skepticism, without much belief in your own right, and still less in that of your adversary.”


Alex somehow inherited the Heart of Darkness. He got caught up in some kind of drunkin, evil, power trip and he took it all the way to the end. All that is left now is the horror of his actions. " The Horror....The Horror." He'll have plenty of time to think about it!

 

[Edvis]

I also noticed in the Murdaugh trial that the SLED ballistics guy matched the cartridges from bullets that killed MM to cartridges that were found outside the gun room by the ejector marks, saying they were fired by the same gun. There was no controversy at all with that testimony. It wasn’t even contested or questioned by the defense.
In Delphi, they identified the unspent bullet by the ejector mark to RA’s pistol and everybody was jumping up and down like it was junk science. Apparently not.

Oh it's not, can identify my spent shells and match them to each of my documented weapons. Certain markings like the firing pin mark indent on the back of a shell tells me when the firing pin is wearing down to the point where I may get a misfire, or just a bad round.

 

[10ofRods]

It's tragic and forced me at times to reflect on moments in the service where lives were taken in a blink of an eye, witnessing it myself and having to put it in a box for a time to protect my brothers. These lives PM and MM should have never been taken in that way and it burned in me that these monsters exist among us and the ease in which AM did this horrific thing without an ounce of sympathy other then saving his self. I've seen the same look on the enemy at the time as they put their family in the line of fire to protect themselves, no remorse, no sympathy, not a care in the world. It was on AM's face time and time again and that in itself told me once again what a heartless killer looks like.

This needs to be posted and lauded. My father (WW2 vet) knew that look as well. The look AM had on his face, at trial, shows what he would look like, as an enemy.

I feel so badly that you saw people put their families in the line of fire (so did my dad; long story, but it awakened him to many things about human nature). No remorse, no sympathy - only hellbent to leather on killing "the enemy."

The soldiers on the Axis side of course were subject to ideology and, well, brainwashing (like some of the characters in this story).

How a person can regard their own family as "the enemy" is beyond me. If they do think so, there are other options than killing them. Esp in the US of A.

I guess I get that a husband can regard their wife as an enemy - but their children?

Yes, Alec's face told a story and Buster has to live with it.

Tragic.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I love that sentencing is scheduled for first thing in the A.M. for A.M. Justice is Swift !!

 

[Edvis]

This needs to be posted and lauded. My father (WW2 vet) knew that look as well. The look AM had on his face, at trial, shows what he would look like, as an enemy.

I feel so badly that you saw people put their families in the line of fire (so did my dad; long story, but it awakened him to many things about human nature). No remorse, no sympathy - only hellbent to leather on killing "the enemy."

The soldiers on the Axis side of course were subject to ideology and, well, brainwashing (like some of the characters in this story).

How a person can regard their own family as "the enemy" is beyond me. If they do think so, there are other options than killing them. Esp in the US of A.

I guess I get that a husband can regard their wife as an enemy - but their children?

Yes, Alec's face told a story and Buster has to live with it.

Tragic.

Amen and yes once you see those faces that have thrown the soul away you never forget the look they project. It's easier to pick them out and even in daily life can save one's life, know thy enemy.

 

[Pruddennce]

“That little detective” from his fathers
mouth.

Pau Pau had the last word…

yes.

 

[Kembo]

I worked today and was watching through the Law and Crime website. JG was just wrapping up, and all of a sudden the video went dead and switched to Video Not Available, Private. I tried to jump back on and accidentally saw the guilty verdict. I can't believe the jury deliberated so fast, but am relieved they did the right thing. Just disappointed for myself I didn't get to see it through live, especially after investing in this trial and with all of you, as a newcomer to this forum. I've learned so much from all of you, and have had some good laughs, and thanks to all for the likes on my ramblings, opinions, and in many cases my naivete. It's almost as if you get to know people here. I probably won't follow another trial for awhile, but when I do I'd like to join you all again sometime.

 

[Cindizzi]

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[DeDee]

During the applause, I had the vivid picture of CW on his knees in the courtroom. He put his heart and soul into this conviction. Everyone that loves and cares for him must be bursting with pride tonigh.

I was humbled watching the Prosecution's press conference. CW stood beside his boss, AG Wilson, as an equal. That entire department worked 1.5 years investigating, then spent 6 weeks in a hotel trying the case in court with little sleep. Alan Wilson stated it was a "Herculean Effort".

CW did not steal the limelight but stood quietly at attention. It really was his moment but, ya know, the AG is elected.
BTW, 2022 was DA AW's fourth term to be elected to the office. This win is a shining beacon on his career.

Alex Murdaugh trial: South Carolina attorney general, prosecutors, react to guilty verdict: 'Herculean effort' | Fox News Video

 

[Gardenista]

Per CTV, JMM was an hour away and wanted the court to hold the verdict until he could get there. Judge said no.

Have I mentioned before how much I love Judge Clifton Newman?