SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton *Guilty* #43

[Cindizzi]

https://x.com/themarktinsley/status/1747466731335901587?s=61&t=Vp-AZ81ShrhzLNqqCFHAgA

 

[girlhasnoname]

Y’all was Buster at the hearing today? Just wondering….didn’t see the camera pan to him.

Also, I think I’ll watch the hearing a couple more times. It’s just too good! Lol. The tweets and pics of the defense/AM during the hearing are so funny! The defense and AM looked so defeated, drained, and frustrated. Someone tweeted that lawyers do not take court rulings as personally as lay ppl think they do. But lawyers like to win, and this defense team had been flying high lately with the new allegations against Becky Hill and the plagiarism etc. I think it’s possible they were drinking their own kool aid and thought this hearing was gonna go a completely different way! They seem obsessed with Becky Hill and seem to be counting her as a juror in this case at this point!

JMO

I so agree, DH looks like a balloon that someone has let all of the air out of. It's a far cry from the show boating he and JG and the other guy did on the Courthouse steps with their shades on. LOL

MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Y’all was Buster at the hearing today? Just wondering….didn’t see the camera pan to him.

Also, I think I’ll watch the hearing a couple more times. It’s just too good! Lol. The tweets and pics of the defense/AM during the hearing are so funny! The defense and AM looked so defeated, drained, and frustrated. Someone tweeted that lawyers do not take court rulings as personally as lay ppl think they do. But lawyers like to win, and this defense team had been flying high lately with the new allegations against Becky Hill and the plagiarism etc. I think it’s possible they were drinking their own kool aid and thought this hearing was gonna go a completely different way! They seem obsessed with Becky Hill and seem to be counting her as a juror in this case at this point!

JMO

I didn't see Buster or any of AM's family. Did anybody?

 

[Weki]

I so agree, DH looks like a balloon that someone has let all of the air out of. It's a far cry from the show boating he and JG and the other guy did on the Courthouse steps with their shades on. LOL

MOO

This is the reverse of ‘we started from the bottom now we’re here’ lol

How it started:

How it ended:

 

[girlhasnoname]

This is the reverse of ‘we started from the bottom now we’re here’ lol

How it started:

How it ended:

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Yes that's the picture I was speaking of, thank you for posting. What a juxtaposition from then to yesterday. LOL

 

[aafromaa]

So if the standard (as the judge said) is that Defense must show any of BH’s words or actions impacted the jury and influenced their verdict, and is limiting juror testimony to those who deliberated, what is the point of having BH on the stand? Or any other witnesses besides the 12 deliberating jurors?

Hearings like this are typically over my head legally speaking as I am not an attorney and they get into technical aspects of the law that I sometimes can’t follow. I much prefer to watch testimony and see evidence than to hear attorneys argue their positions. Anyway, it sure seemed to me that the judge was saying she was keeping this focused on the issue of whether or not the verdict was affected as It is the only thing that matters regarding whether or not to grant a new trial. Someone please correct me if I have that wrong.

if that is the case, why wouldn’t the egg lady issue and whether or not BH was trying to get her off the jury be relevant? Is it because this judge accepts Judge Newman’s reason for removing the juror as being because she talked to other people and that the social media post BH said was from the juror’s ex had nothing to do with Judge Newman’s decision and therefore even if BH wasn’t accused of trying to get egg lady off the jury it could not impact the verdict as Judge Newman removed her for an unrelated issue? Is hat why this judge dismissed the idea of Judge Newman or any attorneys being called?

 

[aafromaa]

Have any of the SLED interviews or MOI’s been released to the public?

 

[Weki]

So if the standard (as the judge said) is that Defense must show any of BH’s words or actions impacted the jury and influenced their verdict, and is limiting juror testimony to those who deliberated, what is the point of having BH on the stand? Or any other witnesses besides the 12 deliberating jurors?

Hearings like this are typically over my head legally speaking as I am not an attorney and they get into technical aspects of the law that I sometimes can’t follow. I much prefer to watch testimony and see evidence than to hear attorneys argue their positions. Anyway, it sure seemed to me that the judge was saying she was keeping this focused on the issue of whether or not the verdict was affected as It is the only thing that matters regarding whether or not to grant a new trial. Someone please correct me if I have that wrong.

if that is the case, why wouldn’t the egg lady issue and whether or not BH was trying to get her off the jury be relevant? Is it because this judge accepts Judge Newman’s reason for removing the juror as being because she talked to other people and that the social media post BH said was from the juror’s ex had nothing to do with Judge Newman’s decision and therefore even if BH wasn’t accused of trying to get egg lady off the jury it could not impact the verdict as Judge Newman removed her for an unrelated issue? Is hat why this judge dismissed the idea of Judge Newman or any attorneys being called?

Not a lawyer but my understanding is that:

1. The allegations that BH was fraudulently attempting to remove egg juror is just that, an allegation. But even if it's true, the egg juror did not ultimately sit on the jury and render a verdict so it's irrelevant. IMO the reason defense keeps hammering this ALLEGATION is because they want to put out there that BH's influence is a much bigger conspiracy than a few improper statements to the jurors.

2. The only thing that matters as to whether AM got a fair trial is what those 12 deliberating jurors say, whether they were improperly influenced by a 3rd party, BH, and if that influenced their verdict. Those 12 jurors were properly voir dire'd and selected to be on that jury.

As an aside, lets say there was a potential juror who was ultimately not selected to be on the jury and it came out after the verdict that BH allegedly fraudulently attempted to make certain this PJ did not get selected, would we have a hearing now to determine whether AM got a fair trial? Nope. Such a motion would be laughed out of court. It's irrelvant because that juror never sat on the deliberating jury that rendered the verdict.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

jmo, the agony of defeat...
https://twitter.com/CharlieCondon
@CharlieCondon

Big blow today to Alex Murdaugh's new trial effort. Justice Toal ruled not only must the defense prove jury tampering, under State vs. Green they must also demonstrate the tampering influenced the guilty verdicts. To date, there is no evidence the verdicts were affected by jury tampering.



4:26 PM · Jan 16, 2024

 

[Megnut]

jmo, the agony of defeat...
https://twitter.com/CharlieCondon
@CharlieCondon

Big blow today to Alex Murdaugh's new trial effort. Justice Toal ruled not only must the defense prove jury tampering, under State vs. Green they must also demonstrate the tampering influenced the guilty verdicts. To date, there is no evidence the verdicts were affected by jury tampering.

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4:26 PM · Jan 16, 2024

Can y'all hear it? The sound of all the air going out of their fili-bluster...

The face of defeat.

Jmo

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

This is some good news certainly. And hope that it continues. As one above posited: ‘The Party’s Over’. I do hope that to be true, but also fear that DH and JG may ultimately try to appeal the ruling or disrupt it perhaps?

….. And that reference reminds me of the wonderful song by Journey from 1981: The Party’s Over (Hopelessly In Love). Hoping it continues to uphold the court and sanctity of its rulings. And yes, I am not young….. MOO

 

[rescuemom]

Was very impressed by this judge!!

 

[Weki]

I am disappointed that so many YouTube lawyers were commentating on this case and yet the public was confused about the requirements of getting a new trial under these circumstances. Even Lawyer You Know said over and over just the fact that BH had inappropriate contact with jurors means a new trial. When asked on his live this week if he would admit he was wrong about that, he said it’s a matter of interpretation of the law and not ‘right’ or ‘wrong.’ But is it? IS IT? I as a non-lawyer have watched enough trials and read appellate briefs addressing these types of issues, and every time something like this comes up it’s a 2 pronged analysis. Was there inappropriate contact? And if so, was it harmful? And that makes sense - determining a prejudicial effect before ordering a new trial since murder trials are time consuming and costly. But I trusted LYK and wavered in my opinion.

Defense did a good job of confusing the issue by making it a Murdaugh v Hill public trial. Making Becky Hill out to be some villain. To be clear, I’m not defending her actions. I think she’s unprofessional and probably unethical. But Harpootlian knows he has a burden to prove prejudice to his client and not Becky Hill’s bad character. Even at the hearing Harpootlian wanted to focus on character assassination of Becky Hill and not the law and what he has to prove. That’s why the judge told him to stop cause she saw it for exactly what it was!

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

https://x.com/bcgambrell/status/1747310862619087013?s=61&t=Vp-AZ81ShrhzLNqqCFHAgA

https://x.com/dnolan2000/status/1747298226288406823?s=61&t=Vp-AZ81ShrhzLNqqCFHAgA

 

[Cindizzi]

DBM- Dupe

 

[Cindizzi]

The Murdaugh Murders, Money & Mystery | Unsolved South Carolina

The Murdaugh Murders, Money & Mystery offers an in-depth look at the unfolding criminal saga centered around disgraced former South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh. The podcast is hosted by veteran journalist Anne Emerson, along with former South Carolina Attorney General Charlie Condon and producer

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[worm]

It’s a cold night to bundle up and catch the AM story once again on CNBC. Part 1 on now.

 

[girlhasnoname]

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The Murdaugh Murders, Money & Mystery | Unsolved South Carolina

The Murdaugh Murders, Money & Mystery offers an in-depth look at the unfolding criminal saga centered around disgraced former South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh. The podcast is hosted by veteran journalist Anne Emerson, along with former South Carolina Attorney General Charlie Condon and producer

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Such a far cry from the BM we saw on camera before the hearing started who was laughing, joking, dare I say 'flirting' to some degree with a member of his Defense Team. Reality - it's a thing.

MOO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Such a far cry from the BM we saw on camera before the hearing started who was laughing, joking, dare I say 'flirting' to some degree with a member of his Defense Team. Reality - it's a thing.

MOO

You mean AM, don’t you?

 

[girlhasnoname]

You mean AM, don’t you?

Yes, I get the AM, BM's, RM's, JMM's and all the M's confused at times, sorry.