SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton *Guilty* #43

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Recess for lunch until 1:15 pm ET.
BH testimony is after lunch.
 
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Well done by Judge Jean Toal.
 
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If I were convicted of a crime in Judge Newman's court I'd sure be pushing for a new trial right about now. That woman should be prosecuted.
Can't wait for her to be in the hot seat when court is back after their lunch break.
 
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I also think it’s important to note that Juror Z said her verdict was based on the facts and law given to her during the trial.
 
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Who wants to bet that BH was watching todays jury testimony with the Judge? She's going to have her story about juror Z all wrapped up by the time she testifies. She's had all morning and now until 1:15 to get it ready.
 
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It's amazing to me that some of the jurors didn't see anything, hear anything nor do anything.
Yes, it's very curious that only one felt pressured to render a guilty verdict. IMO
 
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@cathyrusson

RECAP: Juror Z says Miss Becky influenced her verdict as well as other jurors during deliberations pressured her to vote guilty.Juror P did hear Becky say to watch Murdaugh's body language but it didn't influence him.Foreperson heard Hill talk about watching Murdaugh closely when he testifies and that this is epic or something like that. Her verdict wasn't influenced by it.Remaining 9 jurors heard nothing from HillLunch until 1:15 and then clerk of courts Miss Becky Hill will take the stand.


11:49 AM · Jan 29, 2024
 
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Wow that went by fast. So it’s just juror Z who says she’s influenced. Justice Toal denies Harpootlian’s request to inquire further and clarify with Juror Z. I think Justice Toal is not inclined to give AM a new trial and will force him to go through the appeals process and let the federal courts grant him a new trial. It will not be done by her hand. JMO
I like Judge Toal's style. She doesn't take any nonsense from DH and I doubt she suffers fools gladly. I am left wondering if juror Z will be called back to testify at a later date in these hearings?
 
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Yes, it's very curious that only one felt pressured to render a guilty verdict. IMO
What do you think it means? All the others are lying or juror z is lying?

I’m inclined to think that egg juror, the alternate juror and juror z have beef with Becky Hill.
 
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Wow that went by fast. So it’s just juror Z who says she’s influenced. Justice Toal denies Harpootlian’s request to inquire further and clarify with Juror Z. I think Justice Toal is not inclined to give AM a new trial and will force him to go through the appeals process and let the federal courts grant him a new trial. It will not be done by her hand. JMO

It seems like if Toal has any opinion on AM or is already inclined to decide against him then that defeats the entire purpose of doing this. I’m no AM fan but like many who have watched this from the start, there are trust issues with the system in the lowcountry and they surely don’t need to compound that with even more problems.
 
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It seems like if Toal has any opinion on AM or is already inclined to decide against him then that defeats the entire purpose of doing this. I’m no AM fan but like many who have watched this from the start, there are trust issues with the system in the lowcountry and they surely don’t need to compound that with even more problems.
I think Toal could’ve clarified with juror z better. It seems to be she left it vague on purpose. Why?

JMO
 
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What do you think it means? All the others are lying or juror z is lying?

I’m inclined to think that egg juror, the alternate juror and juror z have beef with Becky Hill.
Yep, or maybe those 2 had some type of 'incentive'. Crazier things have happened in this case.

MOO
 
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For generations, corruption has run long and deep in the low-country and that did not come to an end when AM's trial began.
 
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AM hearing, Columbia, SC (a.m.)

Murdaugh has entered court.

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On Friday, the judge questioned the foreperson in the #AlexMurdaugh trial. Today the other 11 jurors will be questioned in Murdaugh's bid for a new trial. We will have that LIVE. Jurors will not be shown on camera. This afternoon clerk Miss Becky takes the stand.

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Murdaugh attorney Dick Harpootlian asks the judge not to use the term "merits" when questioning jurors. He said on Friday when questioning the foreperson, judge asked if Miss Becky had spoken to them about the "merits" of the case. He says that's a legal term and might be better to simply say "about the case" or something similar.

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Foreperson on Friday told the judge Miss Becky said something about: Today the defendant is going to testify, this is epic, or something like that. (Why would she say anything to jurors about that????)


First up is juror "Z".

Juror Z says clerk Miss Becky Hill told her to watch #AlexMurdauhgh's actions and to watch him closely.

BREAKING: Juror Z says YES, her verdict was influenced by clerk of court Becky Hill. "She made it seem like he was already guilty.” ‘




Here are the FOUR questions Judge Toal will ask each juror: 1. Was that an accurate statement about your verdict at that time?2. Was your verdict based entirely on the testimony, evidence, and law presented to you in this case?3. Did you hear Miss Becky Hill make any comment about this case before your verdict? If yes, what did Miss Hill say?4. Was your verdict on March 2, 2023 influenced in any way by any communications by the clerk of court Becky Hill in this case?


This is what Judge Toal starts out saying to each juror then goes to the 4 questions: You rendered a verdict on March 2, 2023. That verdict was read in open court by the foreperson of the jury. Then the court said this: “Madam forelady and member of the jury, if that is your verdict, of each and every juror, let it be known by raising your hand.” The transcript then indicates that the jurors complied. The jury was individually polled and each was asked, was that your verdict? Each juror answered yes. Each juror was then asked, is that still your verdict? And each juror answered yes.



Juror Z affidavit states that Miss Becky told her/them to watch #AlexMurdaugh carefully among other things and she took all of that to mean Murdaugh was going to lie.

Juror Z: When we began deliberations Miss Hill told us this shouldn't take too long. (All of this, if true, is so inappropriate)

Juror Z says she voted guilty because she felt pressure from the other jurors.

Juror Z: After the verdict Miss Hill pressured the entire jury to speak to a television show.
Judge: The jurors' cellphones were not confiscated and so they have tuned in and listened to everything that just went on in court. (Unbelievable!)



I really don't see how #AlexMurdaugh is not getting a new trial simply based on the first juror's testimony this morning. 10 more to go.

This might be the craziest thing I've seen in a trial/in court in the MANY years I've been watching and covering trials. And I've seen a lot of crazy!


Juror C: He wasn't influenced by Becky Hill. He's done, next juror coming up.


Juror F: She says another juror didn't have today's proceedings on their phone and she saw it. She says it won't impact her testimony today.
Juror F says her verdict was not influenced by Becky Hill.


Juror L: He did not hear Becky Hill make any comment about the case before the verdict. He was not influenced.

Juror E: He did not hear Becky Hill make any comment before the verdict. His verdict was not influenced.

Juror P: He did hear Becky Hill tell jurors to watch #AlexMurdaugh body language when he took the stand. He says his verdict was not influenced by comments by Hill.


Juror 0: He did not hear anything said by Becky Hill.

Juror Y: He says Becky Hill didn't make a comment to him before verdict. His verdict was not influenced.

Juror W: No comments from Becky Hill. Verdict not influenced.

Juror Q: Didn't hear Becky Hill make any comment. Verdict not influenced.

Juror K: Didn't hear any comments from Becky Hill.


That completes the questioning of the jurors.

RECAP: Juror Z says Miss Becky influenced her verdict as well as other jurors during deliberations pressured her to vote guilty.Juror P did hear Becky say to watch Murdaugh's body language but it didn't influence him.Foreperson heard Hill talk about watching Murdaugh closely when he testifies and that this is epic or something like that. Her verdict wasn't influenced by it.Remaining 9 jurors heard nothing from HillLunch until 1:15 and then clerk of courts Miss Becky Hill will take the stand.

@cathyrusson

Recess for lunch- Resume @1:15 pm ET
 
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It seems like if Toal has any opinion on AM or is already inclined to decide against him then that defeats the entire purpose of doing this. I’m no AM fan but like many who have watched this from the start, there are trust issues with the system in the lowcountry and they surely don’t need to compound that with even more problems.
...and, it appears she not a big fan of DH based on his behavior and her rulings so far
 
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it's a done deal, he will get a new trial! YAY..let them prove it better. the jury was tampered flat out. I can't help but feel he didn't do it..I just have trouble with it.I need a new trial..!!!!

Right on, he's as innocent as OJ.

#freethedoublemurderfamilyannihilator
 
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Interesting only one juror admits to being influenced by Becky Hill's statements about AM's guilt. And, that was the only juror to claim hearing any comments from Becky Hill re AM's guilt.
I find it very interesting that jurors sitting in the juror room claim to not hear the clerk of court speaking. I would think that she would have had undivided attention at that time.
 
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...and, it appears she not a big fan of DH based on his behavior and her rulings so far
I'm sorry but I admire the way she has kept him in line. He's rude, argumentative and bullish to me and was especially condescending to female witnesses in particular during the trial.

Remember he also took the shotgun and pointed it at the State as a 'joke'. Who does that????

His glory days are long behind him he should retire and go spend all his $$$$ IMO.

JMO
 
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