SC - Walter Scott, 50, fatally shot by North Charleston PD officer, 4 April 2015 - #1

[CoolJ]

Yes. There are two witnesses who said they were fighting.

Link? That says specifically they were "fighting"?

 

[shadowraiths]

I agree in fact there was no bench warrant for his arrest over child support issues.

Walter Scott owed more than $18,000 in child-support payments and had a bench warrant for his arrest when he was fatally shot by a South Carolina police officer, according to court documents obtained by NBC News.

[...]

Scott owed a total of $18,104 in back child-support, the documents obtained by NBC News show. His last payment was on July 20, 2012, according to the paperwork. The bench warrant for his arrest had been active since a January 16, 2013, court hearing. At that time, Scott had owed $7,836 — but the amount had increased to more than $18,000 at the time of his death.​

link

So, in a matter of 2¼ years, the amount increased 250%?!? It's very hard for me to accuse someone of being a "deadbeat dad" when their child support increases exponentially. I'll reiterate, imho, these sort of fines system set up supporting parents for failure. And again, in light of this, I am not really surprised he ran. Not the best or smartest move but I can certainly understand it.

 

[SStarr33]

Link? That says specifically they were "fighting"?

What else would they be doing on the ground?

 

[Tawny]

Fleeing and attempting to elude a LEO is automatically a felony in all 50 states.

It's NOT automatically a felony.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/resisting-arrest.htm

What is Resisting Arrest?

Resisting arrest occurs when a person interferes with a law enforcement officer’s attempt to perform a lawful arrest. Some states call the crime “obstruction.” The crime can be a felony or a misdemeanor, depending on the severity of the actions of the person being arrested.

Misdemeanor resisting arrest (or misdemeanor obstruction) can include actions such as running and hiding from a law enforcement officer. Felony resisting arrest usually requires that a person either act violently toward the arresting officer or threaten to act violently.

Soooooooooooooo we don't know if he acted violently toward the officer. He could have been (and likely was) simply attempting to flee.

 

[KaaBoom]

Fleeing and attempting to elude a LEO is automatically a felony in all 50 states.

This stuff is interesting! SC still has statutes that require hard labor!
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/title16.php

JMO

Your link does not prove that.

 

[dodie20]

No mother with dependent children is allowed to collect government assistance for the child unless there is a child support order. If the father is a dead beat, then taxpayers provide a stipend for the mother and the state goes after the dad for the money. Do taxpayers ever get reimbursed? Nah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act

Taxpayers do get reimbursed! I personally know people who have repaid! and it's not just men, but also women. My friend's daughter got caught not reporting child support, (while on welfare), and yes, when she was caught, she had to pay it back out of her own pocket. moo

 

[Tawny]

What else would they be doing on the ground?

Scott attempting to get away and Slager attempting to apprehend. That's not necessarily "fighting" which implies intentional violence against the former officer.

 

[SStarr33]

Scott attempting to get away and Slager attempting to apprehend. That's not necessarily "fighting" which implies intentional violence against the former officer.

What would it take for him to get away if the PO had him on the ground?

 

[CoolJ]

I don't believe Scott was running away over any child support issue. I think he was running away because he knew he had committed a much more serious crime.

JMO

I understand this is your opinion, but is there a reason you don't like Mr. Scott to just make the assumption that he must have committed something much more serious?

How about this. Maybe the reason Scott ran is because he was familiar with Slager and what he does to people after pulling them over for a taillight?

 

[SStarr33]

Even if MSM doesn't supply the information, why didn't any of the police incident reports mention it? The police reports are linked upthread. Not one officer on the scene wrote a single word about Slager being tased. Not one.

Maybe it doesn't fit MSM's narrative but why then would it not fit the narrative of the other officers at the scene?

Do you have a link? I would like to read. I tried a quick google and they didn't come up easily, but I can hunt if you don't know exactly where they are.

 

[CoolJ]

What else would they be doing on the ground?

So your answer is - I don't have a link that says that. I just made it up.

 

[leah]

Link to support your fairy tale that Slager was assaulted?

That's what I keep wanting to see.

 

[CoolJ]

I think Slager likes to straddle people and tase them. That's his MO.
From his past, it is very likely that was what happened here. Not a fight or assault by Scott. LOL

 

[tangelo]

I understand this is your opinion, but is there a reason you don't like Mr. Scott to just make the assumption that he must have committed something much more serious?

How about this. Maybe the reason Scott ran is because he was familiar with Slager and what he does to people after pulling them over for a taillight?

do you have a link to what Slager does previously to ppl w taillight issues?

 

[CoolJ]

do you have a link to what Slager does previously to ppl w taillight issues?

Yes I do.

http://news.yahoo.com/white-officer-charged-south-carolina-mans-slaying-wont-195640799.html

"In a different case, Slager is accused of using excessive force during an August 2014 traffic stop in North Charleston in a lawsuit filed April 10 by Julius Wilson. Wilson was stopped for driving with a broken taillight, the same offense Scott was pulled over for the day he died."

"Wilson says Slager and two other officers pulled him from his vehicle, restrained him face-down on the pavement and Slager fired a stun gun into his back."

 

[Tawny]

do you have a link to what Slager does previously to ppl w taillight issues?

I dunno about that, but he likes to use his taser on people anyway even after they follow his instructions...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/09/michael-slager-excessive-force_n_7032212.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-previous-conduct-complaint-article-1.2178669

 

[SStarr33]

So your answer is - I don't have a link that says that. I just made it up.

What do you think they were doing on the ground?

 

[CoolJ]

I dunno about that, but he likes to use his taser on people anyway even after they follow his instructions...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/09/michael-slager-excessive-force_n_7032212.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-previous-conduct-complaint-article-1.2178669

Oh look at this, another one. He sure likes his taser. Glad he finally locked up. Glad they won't be seeking death penalty, so he can hang out with like minded people for the remainder of his days.

 

[tangelo]

Yes I do.

http://news.yahoo.com/white-officer-charged-south-carolina-mans-slaying-wont-195640799.html

"In a different case, Slager is accused of using excessive force during an August 2014 traffic stop in North Charleston in a lawsuit filed April 10 by Julius Wilson. Wilson was stopped for driving with a broken taillight, the same offense Scott was pulled over for the day he died."

"Wilson says Slager and two other officers pulled him from his vehicle, restrained him face-down on the pavement and Slager fired a stun gun into his back."

lawyers

 

[Cubby]

Do you have a link? I would like to read. I tried a quick google and they didn't come up easily, but I can hunt if you don't know exactly where they are.

I'll see if I can find it. It was a post from shadowraiths. (and I think the post # ended in 42 , lol) will come back with the link