scotland yard investigation

[Donjeta]

Yeah, maybe. That's what Redwood's been saying all along, anyway.

I just can't help fearing that the wider the net they're casting the less real evidence they have to connect anyone with the case.

It was one person who supposedly was seen leaving with Madeleine and if they were close to an arrest they would have a very short list of serious suspects.

Maybe they have and aren't saying. It could be the e-fit person is the guy and everything else is just smoke screen. Or maybe it's the e-fit person and all the sex offender buddies he phoned. *shrug*

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Yeah, maybe. That's what Redwood's been saying all along, anyway.

I just can't help fearing that the wider the net they're casting the less real evidence they have to connect anyone with the case.

It was one person who supposedly was seen leaving with Madeleine and if they were close to an arrest they would have a very short list of serious suspects.

Maybe they have and aren't saying. It could be the e-fit person is the guy and everything else is just smoke screen. Or maybe it's the e-fit person and all the sex offender buddies he phoned. *shrug*

What it says to me is that they are making the net wider to see if they can catch something new in the net. I don't see that as a bad thing.

I don't think that rules out current suspects but I think possibles they think more than one person was involved.

I think all the new focus is great.


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[Donjeta]

Of course, if they haven't solved the case yet then they have to look at everything and try something that hasn't been tried before.

It's just a little discouraging since in July it was said that there could be arrests within weeks, before the end of the summer, and it's starting to sound like it greatly overestimated the progress of the investigation if they haven't even identified all of their dozens of suspects or POIs or whatever they call them yet, let alone found them and questioned them and searched their homes.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Of course, if they haven't solved the case yet then they have to look at everything and try something that hasn't been tried before.

It's just a little discouraging since in July it was said that there could be arrests within weeks, before the end of the summer, and it's starting to sound like it greatly overestimated the progress of the investigation if they haven't even identified all of their dozens of suspects or POIs or whatever they call them yet, let alone found them and questioned them and searched their homes.

I don't find it disappointing because it looks like to me that in that investigation they gained more information.




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[Donjeta]

Yeah...not saying that more information isn't a good thing, it's just not enough. I want someone arrested and convicted and Madeleine to have justice and I'd be happier to hear that instead of widening the search they've been able to narrow it down.

Here's for hoping that they have and aren't saying.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Yeah...not saying that more information isn't a good thing, it's just not enough. I want someone arrested and convicted and Madeleine to have justice and I'd be happier to hear that instead of widening the search they've been able to narrow it down.

Here's for hoping that they have and aren't saying.

Well that, we agree on.
I hope there are real answers soon.
I watch cold justice and when they are looking at new cases to solve they always seem to start with lots of new suspects and the whittle them down.

I can only hope that this along with the information from the new witness will get us much closer to Maddie and who did this to her.


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[Inana]

If they've seen her, why hasn't she been rescued?

:dunno:

Because we aren't talking about driving from, say, Kansas to California to pick her up. There are individual sovereign countries involved.

England does not have the right to tromp into another country and arrest their criminals and snatch up children.

That's what started the controversy regarding this case between England and Portugal originally. Portugal (ie Goncalo Amaral) was totally offended that England was "in their business".

 

[goldengirl57]

Yeah...not saying that more information isn't a good thing, it's just not enough. I want someone arrested and convicted and Madeleine to have justice and I'd be happier to hear that instead of widening the search they've been able to narrow it down.

Here's for hoping that they have and aren't saying.

I totally agree with you.

I have watched this tragedy unfold from the very first minute it hit our news screens in the UK.

So now after all these years all all these detectives we have another person of POSSIBLE interest.....if he was lurking about in 2007 why didnt anyone say so?

Why now?

Can any of us honestly say after five years that we would remember someones face enough to make an accurate Efit?

There were people seen around the apartment and there were E fits made i remember them.

This is what they said on our local UK news yesterday about it.

But sources said police will not know how significant the suspect is until he is identified, traced and interviewed.

So NOTHING really.

We have to remember that Scotland Yard started this review in 2011 and has so far got NOTHING..zero...just possibilities....

I find it odd all this activity right now.

IF they have stuff surely they should be keeping it quiet.

I could NEVER understand why the most important thing about the poor child was blasted all over the Internet this would have deemed her too hot a property to keep sadly.

I have always felt from the get go this was a burglary gone wrong, i have my theory, was shot down on many a forum about it.

But it makes sense to me.

I dont think the parents had anything to do with it, I think it was a robbery gone bad sadly for the child.

Anyway I am not holding my breathing over this e fit.

Why now.......

 

[Nvgirl]

They sure are to me crossing their Ts and dotting their I!! Because they won't just show us now. They want to keep saying they have a plan and want it to go accordingly. There is something with all the new hype, there just has to be.

 

[Inana]

I totally agree with you.

I have watched this tragedy unfold from the very first minute it hit our news screens in the UK.

So now after all these years all all these detectives we have another person of POSSIBLE interest.....if he was lurking about in 2007 why didnt anyone say so?

Why now?

Can any of us honestly say after five years that we would remember someones face enough to make an accurate Efit?

There were people seen around the apartment and there were E fits made i remember them.

This is what they said on our local UK news yesterday about it.

But sources said police will not know how significant the suspect is until he is identified, traced and interviewed.

So NOTHING really.

We have to remember that Scotland Yard started this review in 2011 and has so far got NOTHING..zero...just possibilities....

I find it odd all this activity right now.

IF they have stuff surely they should be keeping it quiet.

I could NEVER understand why the most important thing about the poor child was blasted all over the Internet this would have deemed her too hot a property to keep sadly.

I have always felt from the get go this was a burglary gone wrong, i have my theory, was shot down on many a forum about it.

But it makes sense to me.

I dont think the parents had anything to do with it, I think it was a robbery gone bad sadly for the child.

Anyway I am not holding my breathing over this e fit.

Why now.......

I'd like to hear your theory!? Promise not to shoot you.

 

[Donjeta]

BRITISH detectives investigating Maddie’s disappearance are focusing on a crucial 45 minutes from the night she went missing.

In a dramatic new development officers have identified a period before the youngster was seen for the last time as crucial to making a breakthrough, and described it as “a revelation moment.”

They believe her kidnappers may have been lurking in or near the McCanns’ holiday apartment as Gerry went to check on his children at around 9.15pm.

Detectives have always focused on the period after Maddie was checked by her father – but now believe the 45 minutes before that could hold the key to catching those who abducted her.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-focus-crucial-2366180
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I'm not sure why this is new...? IIRC there has always been speculation about the kidnappers lurking nearby beforehand , and talk about the possibility that the abductor was inside when Gerry checked. And anyway, if they were on foot and Jane Tanner saw them at 9:20 pm then they couldn't have been far before Gerry went in.

A source close to the McCanns said: “We believe it is significant that police are looking at the period prior to 9.15pm. Previously all of the focus has been after that time. People may have seen something and not realised it was significant.”

I seem to recall the police asking for observations throughout the evening but if they really dismissed things that happened before 9:15 that's some amateurish investigating... The abductor did not suddenly spring into existence when Madeleine disappeared, he was somewhere both before and after and would probably have had to spend some time in the area to know that there was an unattended child in 5A. I can't really believe that the police didn't realize that

 

[goldengirl57]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-focus-crucial-2366180
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I'm not sure why this is new...? IIRC there has always been speculation about the kidnappers lurking nearby beforehand , and talk about the possibility that the abductor was inside when Gerry checked. And anyway, if they were on foot and Jane Tanner saw them at 9:20 pm then they couldn't have been far before Gerry went in.



I seem to recall the police asking for observations throughout the evening but if they really dismissed things that happened before 9:15 that's some amateurish investigating... The abductor did not suddenly spring into existence when Madeleine disappeared, he was somewhere both before and after and would probably have had to spend some time in the area to know that there was an unattended child in 5A. I can't really believe that the police didn't realize that

They are aving a larf, all this was discussed at the time......

So nothing new then.

Didnt we have the famous statement by Gerry saying that the perb could have been in the apartment when he went to check?

So when did the abductor go into the apartment, they didnt go until 8.30, and from what I read Jaz was walking around trying to get one of his kids to sleep....surely he would have noticed something, and wernt some of the party late for dinner.:banghead:

 

[Marg from Oz]

I too am amazed that the police are giving out detailed information on this case. The supposed sighting and whereabouts. They should have held off until they had interviewed the suspect and had investigated it thoroughly. That said, it would be a wonderful outcome is she was found. But then the question is what has happened to her over the years? The suspect sounds like he might be involved in child .

 

[Donjeta]

I too am amazed that the police are giving out detailed information on this case. The supposed sighting and whereabouts. They should have held off until they had interviewed the suspect and had investigated it thoroughly. That said, it would be a wonderful outcome is she was found. But then the question is what has happened to her over the years? The suspect sounds like he might be involved in child .

I'm not too sure the police told them anything. It seems to have come from "sources", close to the McCanns or the arrest and the lawyer himself.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-alive-witness-tells-2343495

Last night a Greater Manchester Police spokesman said the force was unable to comment on the development.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-british-man-arrested-2366183

t has boosted the hopes of the missing youngster’s anguished parents Kate and Gerry.

A source close to the couple said: “The arrest only happened as a result of a claim that Madeleine may still be alive.”

A respected barrister told us the man boasted to him that he had met the child on a Mediterranean island. It was claimed Maddie was “introduced” to the man this summer.

The barrister, who agreed to speak to us but who we are not naming at his request, refused to comment further on the arrest.

He explained: “I cannot risk compromising the investigation or the search for Madeleine. If she is alive but now *disappears again, I would never be able to forgive myself.”

But a separate source close to the arrest said: “A guy at the party told the barrister he had been introduced to Madeleine on the island in the summer.

JMO but I think the barrister is a total hypocrite. If he's so damn afraid that Madeleine disappears again what the hell is he doing talking to the Mirror about where she was seen, allegedly?

 

[SapphireSteel]

It has been a noticeable pattern that McCann PR release some "leaked" information whenever something uncomfortable is happening.

Right now, they are very uncomfortable indeed.

:cow:

 

[ozazure]

I have a very cursory knowledge of this case, but as a generalised observation, I think if Madeleine had been kidnapped and subjected to being in child , wouldn't it be likely she would have been recognised in said images by now? I know it is probably difficult for viewers to report because of implicating themselves ... I just think if her images were being distributed they would have popped up by now.

 

[goldengirl57]

It has been a noticeable pattern that McCann PR release some "leaked" information whenever something uncomfortable is happening.

Right now, they are very uncomfortable indeed.

:cow:

INTERESTINGLY the Former US Prosecutor Wendy Murphy has said the same on live T.V.

Also Murat has stated all this is too little too late. He said the British police were helping the Portugese police 7 years ago with this case, why didnt they work harder then.......instead of doing now.

ALSO shock horror, two guys WERE seen in 2007 were clocked at Praia De Luz the same two they want to talk to now, their importance was dismissed both by the british police and the PJ of no significance.....

TIMELINE.

I think FINALLY holding my breath Tanners sighting is going to be blown out of the water...I really hope so.

IF IT IS then I am comfortable that the child could have been taken away just after 8.30 it would make sense.

ITS ALWAYS been her sighting that has thrown everything out.

WATCH THIS SPACE....

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I'm excited watching the news today. The new sketches and information.

I hope it really leads to a break and maddie being found.




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[goldengirl57]

I'm excited watching the news today. The new sketches and information.

I hope it really leads to a break and maddie being found.




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I wouldnt get too excited, this person was clocked at the time in 2007 by the PJ and the british police and was felt not of interest. HOWEVER, it seems now they are linking this person with the Smiths sighting and are using the same E fit of this man carrying a blonde child toward the beach and was seen by a family (the Smiths). Their sighting was totally ignored by the PJ and the british police at the time because of jane tanners sighting at 9.15.

So i wonder if they are throwing Jane Tanners sighting out now.

I always thought it was possible the Smiths sighting was right, and the timing was always right for me about 9.50 take the child sedate her and then the Smiths saw him carrying her towards the beach and a boat.

The only reason why i changed my mind was the sighting by Tanner and different description....and odd timing.....

 

[SapphireSteel]

The Tapas handwritten timeline has one consistency - LE were alerted at 10pm.

The exact same time the "abductor" was seen carrying her away.

Kate had to have seen the abductor in the apartment.

She yelled "they've taken her" before she was gone.

:sick: