GUILTY SD - Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg, involved in fatal car hit and run, Sioux Falls, Sept 2020 *plea *Impeached*

  • #61
Hmmm. Ravnsborg’s Wikipedia has been updated with a different account of the accident. This says he called from inside his car, then exited the vehicle to assess damage to his car. It goes on to say he found the body the next day while looking THEN for the deer, not the night of the accident. Not sure who updated the entry.
Jason Ravnsborg - Wikipedia
 
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  • #64
Hmmm. Ravnsborg’s Wikipedia has been updated with a different account of the accident. This says he called from inside his car, then exited the vehicle to assess damage to his car. It goes on to say he found the body the next day while looking THEN for the deer, not the night of the accident. Not sure who updated the entry.
Jason Ravnsborg - Wikipedia
What do you see that is different?
 
  • #65
Regarding the headlights and him using his phone. I would do the same thing if my car were disabled. Headlights illuminate two paths of light. Just because they’re on doesn’t mean you’d be able to see everything in front of the car.
I do agree that a cop should’ve had a flashlight. But I’m not surprised the driver didn’t. JMO.
 
  • #66
Where's the date? This statement has no date. Why are we not surprised. Where's the next page? This doesn't appear to be a complete statement. Not that it would matter anyway.

I'm afraid that he's going to get away with this, free and clear. (IMO)

Nothing devious. Just scroll down to finish reading.
 
  • #67
In his letter the AG mentioned the North Dakota Bureau Of Criminal Investigation is involved. I don't see this placating those that want him charged with no evidence.
 
  • #68
Where's the date? This statement has no date. Why are we not surprised. Where's the next page? This doesn't appear to be a complete statement. Not that it would matter anyway.

I'm afraid that he's going to get away with this, free and clear. (IMO)
If you click on the link, page 2 is displayed as well. The article states Ravnsborg’s statement was released Monday night, Sept 14, two days after the fatality.
 
  • #69
I believe that any average public citizen involved in an accident under similar circumstances would have been asked, by the responding LE agency, to submit to a breathalyzer or blood draw on the spot. Not the next afternoon, at the individual's leisure, or when someone gets around to it. That didn't happen here.

Also, upon finding the body the next day, why didn't he immediately notify the Sheriff by cell phone while at the site? Why did he drive to the Sheriff's residence?

These are just reasonable questions that I hope will be addressed eventually.
 
  • #70
I believe that any average public citizen involved in an accident under similar circumstances would have been asked, by the responding LE agency, to submit to a breathalyzer or blood draw on the spot. Not the next afternoon, at the individual's leisure, or when someone gets around to it. That didn't happen here.

Also, upon finding the body the next day, why didn't he immediately notify the Sheriff by cell phone while at the site? Why did he drive to the Sheriff's residence?

These are just reasonable questions that I hope will be addressed eventually.
100 percent
 
  • #71
I believe that any average public citizen involved in an accident under similar circumstances would have been asked, by the responding LE agency, to submit to a breathalyzer or blood draw on the spot. Not the next afternoon, at the individual's leisure, or when someone gets around to it. That didn't happen here.

Also, upon finding the body the next day, why didn't he immediately notify the Sheriff by cell phone while at the site? Why did he drive to the Sheriff's residence?

These are just reasonable questions that I hope will be addressed eventually.

Where I live deer accidents are common & no breathalyzer or blood draw is taken. No crime has happened. I'm not even sure they have to be reported. In my state they must report if over $1000 damage. Law Enforcement doesn't perform alcohol testing without probable cause. From the looks of the sparsely attended fund raiser I doubt too many were swilling liquor. jmo
 
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  • #72
I believe that any average public citizen involved in an accident under similar circumstances would have been asked, by the responding LE agency, to submit to a breathalyzer or blood draw on the spot. Not the next afternoon, at the individual's leisure, or when someone gets around to it. That didn't happen here.

Also, upon finding the body the next day, why didn't he immediately notify the Sheriff by cell phone while at the site? Why did he drive to the Sheriff's residence?

These are just reasonable questions that I hope will be addressed eventually.
Also why did he return to the fatality at 8am Sunday morning, in the sheriff’s car- with his Chief of Staff? He thought it wise to take his Chief of Staff to find the “deer”? These details are from Ravnborg’s Sept 14 public statement.
 
  • #73
Also why did he return to the fatality at 8am Sunday morning, in the sheriff’s car- with his Chief of Staff? He thought it wise to take his Chief of Staff to find the “deer”? These details are from Ravnborg’s Sept 14 public statement.

A witness to his scratching of his head when he found a body instead of a deer?
 
  • #74
Also why did he return to the fatality at 8am Sunday morning, in the sheriff’s car- with his Chief of Staff? He thought it wise to take his Chief of Staff to find the “deer”? These details are from Ravnborg’s Sept 14 public statement.

I assume he took his chief of staff because he needed a ride home. Not to help him find the deer. Thought that would be obvious.
 
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  • #75
A distracted driver on the shoulder, presumably going pretty fast given the length of the skid marks, sees a man, hits his brakes but crushed him anyway and he flies into and through the windshield. The evidence would be all over his car. Yeah, a deer. The victim's scream, proximity to the roadway, and penetration of the windshield, along with the driving record of Ravnsborg make this a criminal case. They tried desperately to spin what happened and hide evidence. But in a case like this, it always gets out. Hoping for a good and true criminal inquiry. My lawyer son relates that taking a long time on a high profile case is usually more indicative of the authorities hoping to sneak in the final report after many folks have forgotten it--and "nothing to see here" social media plants have effectively staunched some outrage.
 
  • #76
Where I live deer accidents are common & no breathalyzer or blood draw is taken. No crime has happened. I'm not even sure they have to be reported. In my state they must report if over $1000 damage. Law Enforcement doesn't perform alcohol testing without probable cause. From the looks of the sparsely attended fund raiser I doubt too many were swilling liquor. jmo
Failure to render aid and hit and run. It isn't up to us to exonerate him; it's up to the facts which right now indicate something far different than your take. This is not politics nor unreasonable inquiry.
 
  • #77
My lawyer son relates that taking a long time on a high profile case is usually more indicative of the authorities hoping to sneak in the final report after many folks have forgotten it--and "nothing to see here" social media plants have effectively staunched some outrage.

Interesting. I've often suspected as much in some high profile cases.
 
  • #78
I assume he took his chief of staff because he needed a ride home. Not to help him find the deer.
Failure to render aid and hit and run. It isn't up to us to exonerate him; it's up to the facts which right now indicate something far different than your take. This is not politics nor unreasonable inquiry.

I look at all cases from innocent until proven guilty. I have seen some wild speculation but no evidence. I agree it's not up to us exonerate. Just as it isn't up to us to convict. jmo
 
  • #79
I look at all cases from innocent until proven guilty. I have seen some wild speculation but no evidence. I agree it's not up to us exonerate. Just as it isn't up to us to convict. jmo
And here's the thing: He avoided giving blood evidence until the next day. He is still at work. He was able to craft alibis in anticipation of the inquiry. He went home. Could have changed, destroyed his clothing, scrubbed his cell phone, talked for hour with lawyers under his jurisdiction. He was loaned a car. He "found" the body the next day--close to blood spatters and near the shoulder. His car had a man flung into and through its windshield. Saw nuttin'.

None of these things are normal or something you or I could expect in similar circumstances. He has been given almost a get out jail free card. Innocent until proven guilty is nice; <modsnip: No MSM to support this statement>
 
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  • #80
A distracted driver on the shoulder, presumably going pretty fast given the length of the skid marks, sees a man, hits his brakes but crushed him anyway and he flies into and through the windshield. The evidence would be all over his car. Yeah, a deer. The victim's scream, proximity to the roadway, and penetration of the windshield, along with the driving record of Ravnsborg make this a criminal case. They tried desperately to spin what happened and hide evidence. But in a case like this, it always gets out. Hoping for a good and true criminal inquiry. My lawyer son relates that taking a long time on a high profile case is usually more indicative of the authorities hoping to sneak in the final report after many folks have forgotten it--and "nothing to see here" social media plants have effectively staunched some outrage.

Why do you think there would've been a scream?
 

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