ACTIVE SEARCH SD - Serenity Dennard, 9, Children’s Home Society, Pennington County, 3 Feb 2019 #2

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Hypothermia would set in quite quickly. She had on a shirt, pants and boots. I figure in 20 mins she was delusional
Yes, and between that and the rugged conditions, she should have been very close by. She could have wandered while delusional, but not far in those conditions.
 
  • #122
I would have to go back and re-read all the reports, but I have something nagging me. It seems that her running away was noticed right away. So I would imagine that people were searching for her right away. How far could she have gotten ahead of LE and adults at the center In that terrain? . Could she have been hiding?

Forgive me if someone has already said this, but like many cases, there have been so many conflicting reports. Not sure if it is media, the home while scrambling to find out the facts or both.
 
  • #123
One of the nicest posts to repeatedly bring forward. It is beautiful.

Aww, ty! It's just a simple little heart bouncing around. I copied and pasted it repeatedly around Serenity's name. :oops: She loves purple (I do too!) and we love her. And we want Serenity back wherever her heart always felt she belongs. :(

Thanks again to you and to all who've commented. :) It's at the point where hope has dwindled down for many of us. We need something to make us smile and to be able to feel love and happiness when we come in to check on our little Serenity. Hopefully this little bit of hardly anything at all, along with other cuties from sleuthers and the kind words of care and concern everyone is sharing, will provide that for us. More importantly, I hope it provides comfort to all who need it. ;)
 
  • #124
Aww, ty! It's just a simple little heart bouncing around. I copied and pasted it repeatedly around Serenity's name. :oops: She loves purple (I do too!) and we love her. And we want Serenity back wherever her heart always felt she belongs. :(

Thanks again to you and to all who've commented. :) It's at the point where hope has dwindled down for many of us. We need something to make us smile and to be able to feel love and happiness when we come in to check on our little Serenity. Hopefully this little bit of hardly anything at all, along with other cuties from sleuthers and the kind words of care and concern everyone is sharing, will provide that for us. More importantly, I hope it provides comfort to all who need it. ;)

To me, this is the best and most hopeful post. There have been many but the color and dancing of the hearts... :) I hope it brings a bit of sunshine and hope to all. Anytime I run into it, I will share it.
 
  • #125
Forgive me if someone has already said this, but like many cases, there have been so many conflicting reports. Not sure if it is media, the home while scrambling to find out the facts or both.
Question is what reports are contradictory and what reports are just different viewpoints.
I think it would be interesting to know if two people saw her outside (one a person inside a car in the parking lot, one a staff member from inside the building) or whether only one person actually said they saw her outside. That has been a little murky. I have seen each mentioned, but never both mentioned in the same report.
 
  • #126
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  • #127
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Serenity
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Dear Lord,
Please bring this child home where she belongs.
Amen

Beautiful... Bringing forward again...

Thinking of you sweet child and hoping for news, hurts my heart that there hasn't been anything xx
 
  • #128
Has anybody seen any pictures of Serenity actually wearing the snow boots she was supposedly wearing? Sometimes girls that age have brightly colored boots. Bright pink boots, for example, would be more visible to searchers. Just curious.
I don't think we've seen any photos of her boots but this article says they are black.

Authorities release new photo of missing 9-year-old girl
She was wearing only a long-sleeved gray shirt with flowers, blue jeans and black snow boots.
 
  • #129
Deleted by me, as PommyMommy posted a link also. :)
 
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  • #130
Question is what reports are contradictory and what reports are just different viewpoints.
I think it would be interesting to know if two people saw her outside (one a person inside a car in the parking lot, one a staff member from inside the building) or whether only one person actually said they saw her outside. That has been a little murky. I have seen each mentioned, but never both mentioned in the same report.
I'm hoping it's the media that's mixing things up. I've seen that she ran at 10:45, she was seen leaving the building by a staff member, the women in the car saw her by the cattle guard at 11:00, she was seen by a staff member running into the hills, she was last seen at 11:20, they were searching for her in the building before calling 911, and probably about a dozen other details that either conflict or just don't make sense with the rest. If they were actually going from one building to another when she ran (which makes sense to me), they would have to know she wasn't inside if the doors were locked, they would have seen which way she went, someone should have been able to get her if she was by the cattle guard 15 minutes later, nobody could have seen her run out of the building, etc. I still find very little about this case that makes much sense. MOO
 
  • #131
Question is what reports are contradictory and what reports are just different viewpoints.
I think it would be interesting to know if two people saw her outside (one a person inside a car in the parking lot, one a staff member from inside the building) or whether only one person actually said they saw her outside. That has been a little murky. I have seen each mentioned, but never both mentioned in the same report.

It is always hard to tell isn't it? It seems like in almost every case. I suppose between viewpoints and the media and the sheer number of people involved it happens.

I have no idea, I do not think I ever saw that a staff member saw her heading up a hill (off road I thought) until a far later report. If that is the case, I do not entirely get why they were looking for the wood cutters to see if they saw her and/or what time on the road (maybe just to cover all bases or maybe it was an entirely different time period and whether she may have came back or went another way). The vehicle as well, last I knew had two people who saw her, the one who went into the facility and the one who stayed in the car who saw her going down the road I thought.

In the beginning I thought she ran off outside but later saw she ran into a hallway? Now today I read that she was being transported between buildings but that was from a poster, not an article.

We know the 911 call was made later than we originally thought. That has been cleared up.

Pretty confusing to say the least, when sitting here at least. And I make no promises that I even have this all correct either so do not take my word for it :)

I just know that this is really sad and I hope by some miracle she is found safe.
 
  • #132
It is always hard to tell isn't it? It seems like in almost every case. I suppose between viewpoints and the media and the sheer number of people involved it happens.

I have no idea, I do not think I ever saw that a staff member saw her heading up a hill (off road I thought) until a far later report. If that is the case, I do not entirely get why they were looking for the wood cutters to see if they saw her and/or what time on the road (maybe just to cover all bases or maybe it was an entirely different time period and whether she may have came back or went another way). The vehicle as well, last I knew had two people who saw her, the one who went into the facility and the one who stayed in the car who saw her going down the road I thought.

In the beginning I thought she ran off outside but later saw she ran into a hallway? Now today I read that she was being transported between buildings but that was from a poster, not an article.

We know the 911 call was made later than we originally thought. That has been cleared up.

Pretty confusing to say the least, when sitting here at least. And I make no promises that I even have this all correct either so do not take my word for it :)

I just know that this is really sad and I hope by some miracle she is found safe.

Right there along with you. Hope.
 
  • #133
I'm hoping it's the media that's mixing things up. I've seen that she ran at 10:45, she was seen leaving the building by a staff member, the women in the car saw her by the cattle guard at 11:00, she was seen by a staff member running into the hills, she was last seen at 11:20, they were searching for her in the building before calling 911, and probably about a dozen other details that either conflict or just don't make sense with the rest. If they were actually going from one building to another when she ran (which makes sense to me), they would have to know she wasn't inside if the doors were locked, they would have seen which way she went, someone should have been able to get her if she was by the cattle guard 15 minutes later, nobody could have seen her run out of the building, etc. I still find very little about this case that makes much sense. MOO
I haven't seen that she was actually seen leaving the building by a staff member, but rather that she was seen leaving the gym by a staff member. The clarification somebody made was that the gym door didn't lead directly outside, so they didn't know she had gone outside. It is possible the woman in the car saw her by the cattle guard and heading north on the road, and that when informed a few minutes later a staff member looked out and saw her head up into the hills. The person in the car would be sitting down hill from the road, with an obstructed view because of the trees. So they probably were checking the buildings first, before being told she was outside and a staff member seeing her leaving the road. I can reconcile all that part, although it is all just speculation. I'm sure LE has all the reports from everybody who was there, and has a better idea of who saw what and when.
 
  • #134
It is always hard to tell isn't it? It seems like in almost every case. I suppose between viewpoints and the media and the sheer number of people involved it happens.

I have no idea, I do not think I ever saw that a staff member saw her heading up a hill (off road I thought) until a far later report. If that is the case, I do not entirely get why they were looking for the wood cutters to see if they saw her and/or what time on the road (maybe just to cover all bases or maybe it was an entirely different time period and whether she may have came back or went another way). The vehicle as well, last I knew had two people who saw her, the one who went into the facility and the one who stayed in the car who saw her going down the road I thought.

In the beginning I thought she ran off outside but later saw she ran into a hallway? Now today I read that she was being transported between buildings but that was from a poster, not an article.

We know the 911 call was made later than we originally thought. That has been cleared up.

Pretty confusing to say the least, when sitting here at least. And I make no promises that I even have this all correct either so do not take my word for it :)

I just know that this is really sad and I hope by some miracle she is found safe.
Where did you see that she was being transported between buildings? It has always been reported that the event started in the gym. Were they getting ready to go to another building? Can you provide a link?
 
  • #135
Where did you see that she was being transported between buildings? It has always been reported that the event started in the gym. Were they getting ready to go to another building? Can you provide a link?

All I can tell you is it was from a poster and I should clarify there was no source to back it up. The poster said was from the area and had been in the facility before. Said she was being moved/transported or some such from one building to another. It was on here, not some other site. I am not great on knowing how to search and do not recall who it was but I believe it was yesterday. It also said there are exterior cameras, etc.

I too had never heard this. Take it with a grain of salt because I cannot verify the truth of it, maybe the poster will join in here and can do so. I cannot. I think I did reply to it if I recall correctly.
 
  • #136
New to this site but I've followed the case closely since it's happening a few miles from me.

I can actually address some things brought up here.

I've visited the home myself and facilitye does have cameras both inside and outside of the the buildings.

The doors to the main building are locked and alarmed, and I believe the gym doors are as well.

My understanding is that Serenity was being taken from one building to another, when a classmate ran. One staff member was dealing with that when Serenity busted and ran. The second staff member remained with the other kids and called for assistance.

The home is in a heavily wooded area with steep rocky terrain, and the nearest sheriff's substation is at least a 30 min drive away in good weather. The weather that day was frigid, and snowy.
The address is listed as Rockerville, but it actually sits closer to Keystone/Mt. Rushmore. It sits in a narrow canyon, on a road with sharp turns, and I can tell you from experience, it gets dangerous in bad weather.

Simce she went missing, the temperatures have remained extremely cold, and several storms have dumped fresh snow
All very interesting, thank you. Given the steep rocky terrain and the weather, it is hard to see how she could have gotten very far at all.
I know it was mentioned about the outside cameras not working, but it was warm the day before and when she ran it was still in the 20s so that is curious. And it may be the media cameras that were being referred to.
So they were in the gym for the purpose of going to another building?
It is a curious detail - they didn't seem to know right away that she went outside, but if the doors are alarmed, wouldn't she have set them off?

Your local knowledge is really helpful.
 
  • #137
All very interesting, thank you. Given the steep rocky terrain and the weather, it is hard to see how she could have gotten very far at all.
I know it was mentioned about the outside cameras not working, but it was warm the day before and when she ran it was still in the 20s so that is curious. And it may be the media cameras that were being referred to.
So they were in the gym for the purpose of going to another building?
It is a curious detail - they didn't seem to know right away that she went outside, but if the doors are alarmed, wouldn't she have set them off?

Your local knowledge is really helpful.

You found it? I truly need to learn how to search on this site. I too appreciate when locals can give us info since we can only try to picture the area, terrain, etc.
 
  • #138
You found it? I truly need to learn how to search on this site. I too appreciate when locals can give us info since we can only try to picture the area, terrain, etc.
Not so much a search as rereading the posts from the last day or so, and I found it. This thread hasn't been so busy that it is time consuming to do so.
I don't think I realized just how rugged the terrain was until I went back and looked again at some of the pictures from the search teams.
 
  • #139
Not so much a search as rereading the posts from the last day or so, and I found it. This thread hasn't been so busy that it is time consuming to do so.
I don't think I realized just how rugged the terrain was until I went back and looked again at some of the pictures from the search teams.

I probably could have done that, sorry. Been trying to catch up on another case. I do not know that this poster ever came back or responded to me, I don't think so.

I go a bit both ways on the terrain too. I have actually been out that way several times in my life. And In some pics it looks like not much brush, you can see the color being worn on the searchers easily etc. But get up into it and it is probably a different story. Yet Hippy Hole I think it is called is in the area I think someone said at some point here and if you look it up, and look far enough, there are warnings to if a tourist, tell your motel where you are going on such a hike, etc. because tourists get lost and misjudge how easy it will be or how far? I think there has been an unexplained death or two at this spot too (over many years, not like tons of them). I think it is like a swimming hole. I can't recall. Never went but it it is something I looked at long ago when headed to the area and looking for things to do. Another thing that a local could probably provide more info on :) Meaning the terrain and trails if any are not that easy to navigate if headed somewhere. And she is 9.

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All very interesting, thank you. Given the steep rocky terrain and the weather, it is hard to see how she could have gotten very far at all.
I know it was mentioned about the outside cameras not working, but it was warm the day before and when she ran it was still in the 20s so that is curious. And it may be the media cameras that were being referred to.
So they were in the gym for the purpose of going to another building?
It is a curious detail - they didn't seem to know right away that she went outside, but if the doors are alarmed, wouldn't she have set them off?

Your local knowledge is really helpful.
Wait, they were in the gym but they didn't have their coats. So they couldn't have been heading directly to another building from there. They would have had to go to where their coats were first.
 
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