ACTIVE SEARCH SD - Serenity Dennard, 9, Children’s Home Society, Pennington County, 3 Feb 2019

[Deleted member 158085]

Is it true in hypothermia you think you are boiling and take off your clothing?

From Mayo:

Signs and symptoms of hypothermia include:

• Shivering
• Slurred speech or mumbling
• Slow, shallow breathing
• Weak pulse
• Clumsiness or lack of coordination
• Drowsiness or very low energy
• Confusion or memory loss
• Loss of consciousness
• Bright red, cold skin (in infants)

I've also read that eventually you stop shivering, and that's when it's about over. I've never heard of feeling hot. If anyone removes their clothing, it's most likely due to the confusion turning to delirium.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "if she was out there, she would be found"? It is quite difficult to check every single square inch even in a very limited area, and very easy to overlook something, especially in that weather. If Serenity just kept going or walking around, she could have ended up anywhere in quite a large area. They did say they have searched clear up to route 16 and down to route 40, but that is an extremely large amount of square footage to cover, and it is almost impossible to be sure to thoroughly cover that much area with the limited manpower they had. It would be easy, for example, to miss a snow covered ditch.

Yeah, it was much better search circumstances when they were looking for Sherin Matthews and they still missed her, as did the dogs. It was good weather and in a neighborhood as opposed to the woods. This is a whole other level for searching.

 

[doodles1211]

It is called Paradoxical undressing...

Paradoxical undressing is a term for a phenomenon frequently seen in cases of lethal hypothermia. Shortly before death, the person will remove all their clothes, as if they were burning up, when in fact they are freezing.

www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/paradoxical_undressing/

 

[IceIce9]

Is it true in hypothermia you think you are boiling and take off your clothing?

Often, yes. When people are in the final stages of hypothermia they become very disoriented. Due to damaged nerves they feel very hot and often remove some or all of their clothing.

Sometimes people at first assume foul play when a person is found deceased from hypothermia because their clothes have been removed.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It is called Paradoxical undressing...

Paradoxical undressing is a term for a phenomenon frequently seen in cases of lethal hypothermia. Shortly before death, the person will remove all their clothes, as if they were burning up, when in fact they are freezing.

www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/paradoxical_undressing/

I stand corrected. The rest of the article is also disturbing and may explain why it is so difficult to find her.

"But wait! It gets even weirder. Once they've undressed, the dying person will frequently try to crawl into a small, enclosed space. For which reason, victims of hypothermia are often found naked, squeezed into cupboards or beneath beds. This is called Terminal Burrowing Behavior."

 

[IceIce9]

From Mayo:

Signs and symptoms of hypothermia include:

• Shivering
• Slurred speech or mumbling
• Slow, shallow breathing
• Weak pulse
• Clumsiness or lack of coordination
• Drowsiness or very low energy
• Confusion or memory loss
• Loss of consciousness
• Bright red, cold skin (in infants)

I've also read that eventually you stop shivering, and that's when it's about over. I've never heard of feeling hot. If anyone removes their clothing, it's most likely due to the confusion turning to delirium.

People who have been rescued after nearly freezing will sometimes have removed their clothes or attempted to cover themselves with snow. They will tell rescuers how hot they are and think they are burned be cause of the extreme heat they are feeling.

 

[IceIce9]

I stand corrected. The rest of the article is also disturbing and may explain why it is so difficult to find her.

"But wait! It gets even weirder. Once they've undressed, the dying person will frequently try to crawl into a small, enclosed space. For which reason, victims of hypothermia are often found naked, squeezed into cupboards or beneath beds. This is called Terminal Burrowing Behavior."

And that fact adds to the difficulty in finding someone who is missing. Imagine how easy it would be to overlook someone who had covered themselves with snow or crawled into a snowbank.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

And that fact adds to the difficulty in finding someone who is missing. Imagine how easy it would be to overlook someone who had covered themselves with snow or crawled into a snowbank.

That's what I had been thinking earlier anyway, if only to hide. Kid hears people looking for her and burrows. With this "terminal burrowing" she may have been driven to burrow deeper.

I'm in the Midwest and right now we have quite the build up of snow banks and snow drifts from a long winter. I don't know about this area of SD, but I imagine it's possible.

 

[human]

Yeah, it was much better search circumstances when they were looking for Sherin Matthews and they still missed her, as did the dogs. It was good weather and in a neighborhood as opposed to the woods. This is a whole other level for searching.

She wouldn’t get far because she would succumb to hypothermia fairly quickly

 

[ilovepierre]

Some good photos in this link. Makes one curious - where the heck could she have been running to? Of course at her age, it could have been just a spontaneous thought and flight. But after that first sprint, what could she have been trying to do? Where to go? Even the dogs have ice whiskers.

Girl still missing after weekend search

I don’t think she had any real destination in mind when she ran.
IMO, it was spontaneous and done completely on impulse.
I feel she succumbed to the elements and she’s in the woods somewhere
I want to believe she found somewhere warm to hide, but after this long....it’s not likely.

 

[ilovepierre]

have they been looking up? I just could see a young girl climbing a tree and falling "asleep"

hope if they do find her they will release her diagnosis if it was something like ODD or something. it could give awareness to just how these kids dont think and caregivers have to be full attention with them. could also help people who deny these diagnoses even exist, I hate when people say my boy is just being a boy. no, he isn't. he has a mental illness
of course if it was abuse or something to that effect, I wouldn't want that to be released for privacy of the family

Because she’s a minor, her diagnosis won’t be told to the public.
We don’t even know why she’s at CHS and since she’s a minor, we’ll probably never know.
And it’s really not our business to know, IMO.
CHS knows and her caregivers know....that’s what’s important.

JMO

 

[Stunned]

Because she’s a minor, her diagnosis won’t be told to the public.
We don’t even know why she’s at CHS and since she’s a minor, we’ll probably never know.
And it’s really not our business to know, IMO.
CHS knows and her caregivers know....that’s what’s important.

JMO

And her diagnosis shouldn’t be.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Hopefully some of these $$$ will be spent on a security system.

T. Denny Sanford gives $55 million to Children's Home Society

 

[cybervampira]

Search for missing 9-year-old girl in South Dakota on hold

Authorities have put on hold the search for a 9-year-old girl who ran away from a residential youth home amid frigid weather more than a week ago in South Dakota.

Pennington County Sheriff Kevin Thom told reporters Monday that authorities are regrouping and trying to decide “how and when” they continue recovery efforts for Serenity Dennard.

The Rapid City Journal reports the sheriff said the investigation remains open until the girl is found.

[...]

 

[doodles1211]

This makes me so sad...

Authorities have put on hold the search for a 9-year-old girl who ran away from a residential youth home amid frigid weather more than a week ago in South Dakota.

Pennington County Sheriff Kevin Thom told reporters Monday that authorities are regrouping and trying to decide "how and when" they continue recovery efforts for Serenity Dennard.

The Rapid City Journal reports the sheriff said the investigation remains open until the girl is found.

Search for missing 9-year-old girl in South Dakota on hold

 

[ilovepierre]

I am not sure if this has been mentioned before - I did a thread search and could not find anything. Could she have had access to an online gaminG community like Roblox or Fortnight? My kid is 9 and she haS Roblox without the ability to chat, but if SD accessed this and chatted it is possible for her to have met someone to pick her up. I know it’s a stretch and it’s MOO but I thought I would throw it out there to discuss. I honestly think she ran and succumbed to hypothermia and they just can’t find her right now. MOO

I would imagine that any kind of SM access is monitored by the staff.
Not saying she couldn’t have been chatting with someone, but it’s unlikely.

IMO

 

[tigertales]

Is it true in hypothermia you think you are boiling and take off your clothing?

I have read that people that suffer from it in snow or extreme cold are sometimes found with their clothing discarded. I think it depends on when you lose consciousness. MOO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

So Serenity was at a private school *Children's Home* and not a county funded "children's home?" Assumptions always get in the way of my thinking. It appears tuition is paid for a child to go there unless I am missing something.

Black Hills Children's Home Profile (2018-19) | Rapid City, SD

 

[doodles1211]

Search for missing 9-year-old girl in South Dakota on hold

Authorities have put on hold the search for a 9-year-old girl who ran away from a residential youth home amid frigid weather more than a week ago in South Dakota.

Pennington County Sheriff Kevin Thom told reporters Monday that authorities are regrouping and trying to decide “how and when” they continue recovery efforts for Serenity Dennard.

The Rapid City Journal reports the sheriff said the investigation remains open until the girl is found.

[...]

Somehow we are posting identically today within a minute of each other. Im going to wait longer on my next posts... LOL.

 

[cybervampira]

Somehow we are posting identically today within a minute of each other. Im going to wait longer on my next posts... LOL.

You must be my American twin!