Serious DNA discussion

[robotdog]

seems to me if they would have brought dogs into the house,

they could have given the dogs all the things that the ramseys say "were not theirs" bats, flashlights, and other items


let the dogs sniff those items and the dogs would have gone RIGHT OVER to the writer of the note........


guess who that would be ??


take a wild guess

 

[JMO8778]

exactly

john ramsey knows it, most people know it and its the giant T-Rex in the living room and everyone pretends its a salamander

sickening

yes,it's the elephant in the room and everyone wants to ignore it instead of introduce it.so I'll take the liberty.

hello,this is the RN.PATSY WROTE IT.

good day,now.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Hold,JB didn't need to be found with a bible in hand for it to be connected to the murder.ANYTHING and everything in the house should be considered potential evidence,that's why *nothing* should be disturbed;the entire house itself was a crime scene.
The RN was written words,as was the bible.the bible was found open to a page that correlates with the same letters found in the RN signature.coincidence?

Yep, coincidence.

I'd suggest first considering just the knowns, and maybe make some basic deductions from there, before making religious fanatical connections.

 

[JMO8778]

Yep, coincidence.

I'd suggest first considering just the knowns, and maybe make some basic deductions from there, before making religious fanatical connections.

You don't know that.the bible was there and opened to that part,it is a known fact.it isn't a religious fanatical connection.no need to deduct it,unless you want to deny it in order to direct evidence away from it being Patsy who wrote the note.

 

[Tadpole12]

No, I've known ESL teachers, in fact my former Sister In Law was one, and I don't think attache is a word an ESL student would use unless they are from France or a French-speaking country. Besides, how many "small foreign factions" are French???

Hi Linask.

Just my two cents but attache reminds me of 'attache case', from an old British spy movie.

porte-documents = a briefcase.
portfolio is a case.
portefeuille = wallet.

porter (v) carry
attacher (v): attach, tie

 

[LinasK]

Hi Linask.

Just my two cents but attache reminds me of 'attache case', from an old British spy movie.

That's what I think of too!

 

[BBB167893]

How about pageant moms who are journalism majors? One minute she's a pageant mom who can't spell, the next she's a journalism major with high vocabulary. Which is it?

I never doubted she was a journalism major with a high vocabulary. But even the government can't decide on those spellings. One day it's Osama bin Laden, the next day it's Usama bin Laden. Besides, you have to wonder how vital was the spelling of Hizbollah (or is it Hezbollah? Or Hizbullah?) to her everyday life? She wasn't a CIA agent. At least, not that I know of.

Did you know, SD, that all the words in the ransom note already exist in the vast majority of high school graduates, and probably the simple majority of middle school graduates? There are zero college level vocabulary words in the RN. Agreed?

Are your trying to trick me?

 

[BBB167893]

Hi Linask.

Just my two cents but attache reminds me of 'attache case', from an old British spy movie.

porte-documents = a briefcase.
portfolio is a case.
portefeuille = wallet.

porter (v) carry
attacher (v): attach, tie

Since we're talking British spy movies, John seems to be a fan of James Bond. That's what he likened the JMK (there it goes again!) nabbing to. Hmm, doesn't "Q" the gadget man like to talk about "electronic countermeasures?" Say! Doesn't Red Grant use a garrote weapon in "From Russia With Love?" The same movie with the booby-trapped attache case?

 

[Tadpole12]

Since we're talking British spy movies, John seems to be a fan of James Bond. That's what he likened the JMK (there it goes again!) nabbing to. Hmm, doesn't "Q" the gadget man like to talk about "electronic countermeasures?" Say! Doesn't Red Grant use a garrote weapon in "From Russia With Love?" The same movie with the booby-trapped attache case?

err, memory's fuzzy on Bond film plots. But if you're an old school bond fan, then it's Connery for sure.

http://www.moviedeaths.com/from_russia_with_love/donald_'red'_grant/

Bond, however, has one last trick up his sleeve, in the form of a throwing knife concealed in his briefcase, which he uses to stab Grant in the shoulder, which causes Grant to release his hold. Bond then grabs the wire coming from Grant's watch and wraps it around his throat. With the tables turned, Bond squeezes until Grant gasps no more, and drops the lifeless body on a nearby seat.

 

[Chrishope]

My 2 cents on College vocabulary.

I don't think it's really possible to say -judging only on vocabulary - whether or not the RN was written by a college grad. My mother didn't go to college, but she has a broad vocabulary, she's well read, and a good speller. She'd easily be familiar with all the words in the RN.

Additionally, I've known college grads who could not, like, you know, I mean, like, string together, like, you know, a sentance, and stuff.

Also I've heard "hence" used by people who are not particularly well educated. It's not common, but I've heard it. (I doubt it's even common for well educated people to use hence).

Countermeasures is a word that nearly everyone who'd ever served in the military would know - regardless of rank or education.

There might also be geographic trends in the use of words. Up here in the Great Lakes area, where I live, you'd rarely hear attache. Even someone with a Phd would call it a briefcase. I wouldn't be suprised if attache were used with more frequency in Louisiana where people are more comfortable with French words.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So-called high level college level words are 'attache' and 'countermeasures'??

I disagree, because I think very few even high school students are going to need to look up either of these two words.

The idea that the author used 'multi-syllable' words is largely insignificant, as most elementary school students use multi-syllable words. I'm surprised that was even mentioned. The idea that the RN words are correctly spelled is insignificant, because there are no difficult spelling words by any standard except elementary school. There are many elementary school students who would know and could spell every word.

The RN was obviously written by an adult, but the vocabulary does in fact suggest a less than college education. Maybe a lot less.

 

[Chrishope]

The RN was obviously written by an adult, but the vocabulary does in fact suggest a less than college education. Maybe a lot less.

I Don't see how you arrive at that conclusion.

 

[LI_Mom]

I always laugh when people try to pretend the word attache must have foreign connotations....

It's a well known & popular word in the English language.... especially for anyone who is part of the business world or watches law shows on TV even.

It's only a little less widely used by Americans than that other foreign word..... "cologne."


And it's hilarious that this small foreign faction would switch from the ohhhh.... Hey! Look we're using a cool foreign word here ---> "attache" to a much more domestic/homey sounding "brown paper bag."

 

[coloradokares]

I always laugh when people try to pretend the word attache must have foreign connotations....

It's a well known & popular word in the English language.... especially for anyone who is part of the business world or watches law shows on TV even.

It's only a little less widely used by Americans than that other foreign word..... "cologne."


And it's hilarious that this small foreign faction would switch from the ohhhh.... Hey! Look we're using a cool foreign word here ---> "attache" to a much more domestic/homey sounding "brown paper bag."

Bravo! Darn I wished I would have caught that one!:clap::clap::clap:

 

[JMO8778]

I always laugh when people try to pretend the word attache must have foreign connotations....

It's a well known & popular word in the English language.... especially for anyone who is part of the business world or watches law shows on TV even.

It's only a little less widely used by Americans than that other foreign word..... "cologne."


And it's hilarious that this small foreign faction would switch from the ohhhh.... Hey! Look we're using a cool foreign word here ---> "attache" to a much more domestic/homey sounding "brown paper bag."

what about 'tan cellulose sack'. hehe.

 

[Squishified]

I think I first heard the word "attache" in a Gilligan's Island episode when I used to watch it every day after school. It is the episode where Gilligan dreams he is a James Bond-type secret agent and he was handcuffed to the attache case. But, yeah, I agree you don't hear that word often in everyday life.

 

[LI_Mom]

I think I first heard the word "attache" in a Gilligan's Island episode when I used to watch it every day after school. It is the episode where Gilligan dreams he is a James Bond-type secret agent and he was handcuffed to the attache case. But, yeah, I agree you don't hear that word often in everyday life.

I bet if you're a white collar businessman/woman you MIGHT hear the word everyday.

Let's face it.... people usually rely on a very small vocabulary in everyday conversations & when they're with friends, they probably revert to more familiar words & phrases & are likely to reserve their 'fancy' talking for more formal or more serious conversations.

Or when they're writing.... that's also a good time to whip out the colorful language.

None of the words taken ALONE offer any real clues.... it's the style of the letter, it's the TONE of the letter & it's the way the thought process morphs throughout that will give us clues.

It's what it says & it's what it DOESN'T say.....

It doesn't say: We have your daughter. Will call with further details.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I bet if you're a white collar businessman/woman you MIGHT hear the word everyday.

Let's face it.... people usually rely on a very small vocabulary in everyday conversations & when they're with friends, they probably revert to more familiar words & phrases & are likely to reserve their 'fancy' talking for more formal or more serious conversations.

Or when they're writing.... that's also a good time to whip out the colorful language.

None of the words taken ALONE offer any real clues.... it's the style of the letter, it's the TONE of the letter & it's the way the thought process morphs throughout that will give us clues.

It's what it says & it's what it DOESN'T say.....

It doesn't say: We have your daughter. Will call with further details.

This is a tall statement, for anyone genuinely interested in finding JBR's killer. Anything alone can be a real clue.

Its not a 'done deal' that RDI. In fact, RDI has been capitulating on more than one issue lately. (college word of the day not found in the RN: capitulating)

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

My 2 cents on College vocabulary.

I don't think it's really possible to say -judging only on vocabulary - whether or not the RN was written by a college grad. My mother didn't go to college, but she has a broad vocabulary, she's well read, and a good speller. She'd easily be familiar with all the words in the RN.

Additionally, I've known college grads who could not, like, you know, I mean, like, string together, like, you know, a sentance, and stuff.

Also I've heard "hence" used by people who are not particularly well educated. It's not common, but I've heard it. (I doubt it's even common for well educated people to use hence).

Countermeasures is a word that nearly everyone who'd ever served in the military would know - regardless of rank or education.

There might also be geographic trends in the use of words. Up here in the Great Lakes area, where I live, you'd rarely hear attache. Even someone with a Phd would call it a briefcase. I wouldn't be suprised if attache were used with more frequency in Louisiana where people are more comfortable with French words.

TY. I believe the perp has served in the military.

Listen carefully, follow our instructions, I advise you to be well rested because tomorrow will be exhausting, we are familiar with countermeasures and tactics, Victory!

Sounds like a military pep talk to me.

 

[coloradokares]

TY. I believe the perp has served in the military.

Listen carefully, follow our instructions, I advise you to be well rested because tomorrow will be exhausting, we are familiar with countermeasures and tactics, Victory!

Sounds like a military pep talk to me.

I read this to my husband and he was amused. Not likely