Several' bodies found at Mandan, North Dakota business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest*

[Tillicum]

I don't think this has been suggested and probably isn't likely but I know of individuals who were going through a divorce or ending a relationship and the ex viewed their co workers and bosses as the enemy. Sometimes illogically blamed them for causing the break up.

 

[Gardenista]

Wait a second. I think you're right on the timing of the initial of the 911 call (I remember reading it was 7:40a but same difference).

Sooooo, who made this FB post? Look at the time stamp.

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Timestamp depends on your timezone. Are you in the same timezone?

 

[MassGuy]

Wait a second. I think you're right on the timing of the initial of the 911 call (I remember reading it was 7:40a but same difference).

Sooooo, who made this FB post? Look at the time stamp.

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That time stamp is based on your time zone.

It says 9:52 for me (Eastern time), so that means it was posted at 8:52 (central time).

I’m guessing you’re west coast time.

 

[Jabarn]

Wait a second. I think you're right on the timing of the initial of the 911 call (I remember reading it was 7:40a but same difference).

Sooooo, who made this FB post? Look at the time stamp.

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I don’t read too much into that... it’s a simple statement and could have been made by anyone with access to the RJR FB, and who understood the enormity of the situation, and stepped up to let the customers know quickly. It’s probably a bit OCD, but not suspicious. IMO.

 

[LietKynes]

Wait a second. I think you're right on the timing of the initial of the 911 call (I remember reading it was 7:40a but same difference).

Sooooo, who made this FB post? Look at the time stamp.

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Good point.
Had some goosebumps thinking about that.
Some else asked that on an msm FB page, but it was never answered.
So, the employee who called 911--- the very last thing they'd be thinking about would be updating the company's FB page, right ?
I'd be standing outside the building waiting for the first responders and staying away from the crime scene.

 

[NickoD]

That time stamp is based on your time zone.

It says 9:52 for me (Eastern time), so that means it was posted at 8:52 (central time).

I’m guessing you’re west coast time.

Oops! Stupid settings. I'm Mountain Time. So the FB post looks like it went up roughly an hour after the initial 911 call.

ETA: So we know from a timeline perspective that from the 911 call, to response, to someone having their wits about them to post on FB that they will be closed is about an hour.

 

[zecats]

That time stamp is based on your time zone.

It says 9:52 for me (Eastern time), so that means it was posted at 8:52 (central time).

I’m guessing you’re west coast time.

Or Mountain time. Or Pacific time. ND is Central time, as you stated, correct?

 

[mrstfs]

FYI, I’m in California and the timestamp on that “closed today” post says 6:52am for me. This is 2 hours behind Mandan. This isn’t an issue IMO.

 

[NickoD]

Or Mountain time. Or Pacific time. ND is Central time, as you stated, correct?

Yeah, I'm mountain. Apologies for the fire drill.

 

[MassGuy]

Or Mountain time. Or Pacific time. ND is Central time, as you stated, correct?

Ha! Yes. Mandan, North Dakota is central.

I completely forgot that “Mountain Time” existed.

I normally think only of EST, Central, and Pacific.

 

[mrstfs]

Ha! Yes. North Dakota is central.

I completely forgot that “Mountain Time” existed.

I normally think only of EST, Central, and Pacific.

Technically, parts of ND are in Mountain Time but Mandan is Central. ;-)

 

[mrstfs]

I’m stuck on the “no danger to public” statement... seems like if it was a burglary, they wouldn’t confidently say no danger to public... seems so specific. I might be over analyzing.

 

[LietKynes]

I don't think this has been suggested and probably isn't likely but I know of individuals who were going through a divorce or ending a relationship and the ex viewed their co workers and bosses as the enemy. Sometimes illogically blamed them for causing the break up.

Agreed.
One of my previous posts reflected that.
This does sound more personal than a random break-in.

 

[zecats]

Ha! Yes. Mandan, North Dakota is central.

I completely forgot that “Mountain Time” existed.

I normally think only of EST, Central, and Pacific.

Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico, Montana...no time for you. lol

 

[NickoD]

I’m stuck on the “no danger to public” statement... seems like if it was a burglary, they wouldn’t confidently say no danger to public... seems so specific. I might be over analyzing.

Even if it was targeted specifically at those 4 victims, there is still a killer out there with absolutely nothing to lose at this point and everything to gain by getting as far away as quickly as possible. So yeah, I think that "no danger to the public" comment was an ill-conceived attempt to avoid panic.

 

[Jabarn]

I’m stuck on the “no danger to public” statement... seems like if it was a burglary, they wouldn’t confidently say no danger to public... seems so specific. I might be over analyzing.

I agree. Statements like that are confusing to the public. People in the area are going to lock their doors anyway after this.

Not sure where that kind of line got started for law enforcement, but I have seen it so many times. I guess the best is to keep the public calm. IMO.

 

[cody22]

I’m stuck on the “no danger to public” statement... seems like if it was a burglary, they wouldn’t confidently say no danger to public... seems so specific. I might be over analyzing.

LE seems to say that "no danger to the public" in every case lately.....I have got to where I ignore that part....moo

 

[LietKynes]

I’m stuck on the “no danger to public” statement... seems like if it was a burglary, they wouldn’t confidently say no danger to public... seems so specific. I might be over analyzing.

SABBM

ITA.
Fwiw, I don't think you're over-analyzing anything.
I guess LE could reasonably think this is personal , and still have no clue as to the identity of the perp. , and it's a good bet that they have more information than we do.
It's just that in other cases the cod is announced fairly early on.

 

[zecats]

LE seems to say that "no danger to the public" in every case lately.....I have got to where I ignore that part....moo

Yes they do/have. Mollie, Hania, Kelsey, iir. Not so sure that is always accurate. JMO

 

[Jabarn]

SABBM

ITA.
Fwiw, I don't think you're over-analyzing anything.
I guess LE could reasonably think this is personal , and still have no clue as to the identity of the perp. , and it's a good bet that they have more information than we do.
It's just that in other cases the cod is announced fairly early on.

At the same time, we don’t know the level of brutality to one or all the victims. If it was personal, there might be more trauma on one or more victims. That will be important for the coroner/medical examiner to establish.