Several' bodies found at Mandan, North Dakota business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest*

[ilovechili]

ND affords certain rights to people regarding payment of utilities but the bottom line is : DO NOT PROHIBIT disconnect during winter months, as long as the other protections are followed.
So yes, they can shut off your utilities during the winter months.
https://psc.nd.gov/docs/ysk/e-1-protection-from-electric-and-natural-gas-disconnections.pdf
Doesn't lot rent in a trailer park usually include utilities? How much could lot rent be in a small town like that?
I keep thinking there has to be more to it than money. Who kills 4 innocent people over what had to be a relatively small amount of money. Four lives---gone. Even if he was enraged, to kill four people makes no sense.

I agree 100 percent it makes no sense. Nothing I can think of explains killing for people, makes no sense as you say.

I don't know how much lot rent would be but I do know of not the best trailer parks that surprise me at times what the lot rent is. Not in ND however.

If one assumes (and who knows if it is correct) that any motive (not that any explains this overkill) relates to the fact he is on a property they manage, I can only figure it is financial or maintenance related. Financial makes more sense to me and I also wonder if his chiropractic office is one of their properties.

If it is maintenance related, I guess three of the four employees were related to maintenance (assuming the owner also had more to do with that area but that is a guess). I just cannot see though what the issues would be. I would think he would have other recourse if they were not maintaining something required to be maintained by a landlord (small claims action, calling the appropriate agency, etc.). If he, however, owed rent money, was being evicted, etc., and did not have the money, that is not so easily solved. Not that killing them solves it.

I have thought of things like maybe they were friends and something happened but this location was something like 70 miles away wasn't it? I do not see it as likely therefore...

Oh well, who knows? I guess we will have to wait and see. Just seems the fact he lived on one of their properties seems the most likely...

 

[Rocco]

I agree 100 percent it makes no sense. Nothing I can think of explains killing for people, makes no sense as you say.

I don't know how much lot rent would be but I do know of not the best trailer parks that surprise me at times what the lot rent is. Not in ND however.

If one assumes (and who knows if it is correct) that any motive (not that any explains this overkill) relates to the fact he is on a property they manage, I can only figure it is financial or maintenance related. Financial makes more sense to me and I also wonder if his chiropractic office is one of their properties.

If it is maintenance related, I guess three of the four employees were related to maintenance (assuming the owner also had more to do with that area but that is a guess). I just cannot see though what the issues would be. I would think he would have other recourse if they were not maintaining something required to be maintained by a landlord (small claims action, calling the appropriate agency, etc.). If he, however, owed rent money, was being evicted, etc., and did not have the money, that is not so easily solved. Not that killing them solves it.

I have thought of things like maybe they were friends and something happened but this location was something like 70 miles away wasn't it? I do not see it as likely therefore...

Oh well, who knows? I guess we will have to wait and see. Just seems the fact he lived on one of their properties seems the most likely...

That does seem the most likely. However, maybe it's the other way around---as in one or more of them were patients of his?

 

[ilovechili]

That does seem the most likely. However, maybe it's the other way around---as in one or more of them were patients of his?

It could be but that would be a long drive for a chiropractor when they live in the bigger city... I would think there would be more chiropractors in Mandan without an hour's drive. This is assuming they all lived in the Mandan area and I guess I do not know that...

 

[John d]

It could be but that would be a long drive for a chiropractor when they live in the bigger city... I would think there would be more chiropractors in Mandan without an hour's drive. This is assuming they all lived in the Mandan area and I guess I do not know that...

I think all of the victims lived in mandan and bismarck. Dr isaak lived 40 miles aeay in washburn

 

[Rocco]

I think all of the victims lived in mandan and bismarck. Dr isaak lived 40 miles aeay in washburn

Did his reputation for being such a good chiropractor bring in clients from around the area who were willing to travel just to see him?

 

[ilovechili]

I think all of the victims lived in mandan and bismarck. Dr isaak lived 40 miles aeay in washburn

Thank you, that is what I thought although I thought the distance to Washburn was farther. It is always nice to have a local to answer questions.

 

[John d]

Thank you, that is what I thought although I thought the distance to Washburn was farther. It is always nice to have a local to answer questions.

Still figuring out this website. Im gonna hit the hay ill check back tomorrow with any new news

 

[John d]

Did his reputation for being such a good chiropractor bring in clients from around the area who were willing to travel just to see him?

I travelled 50 miles to see him. Most chiropractors your in an out in 5 min hed keep u there for an hour and crack absolutely everything . Most chiros all about money he actually cared. Never ever thought he would have been capable of anything like this

 

[Mountain Misst]

Link: Page 7 of a health magazine online (info probably provided by himself/advertorial - so take with a grain of salt) https://www.bhgnews.com/image/cache/Healthy_Habits_2015.pdf

Just a little scouring around checking this potential 'poetic licence'...
Please consider the following as IMO, although much gleaned from msm archives. Seems Chad Isaak has stretched the elastic somewhat in his adult life. Perhaps he has been 'called out' on something recent...

Graduated from high school 1992.
Joined the US Navy 1992.
Following initial training, he served as an assistant lab technician (not a medic as claimed) in Hawaii
Married 1995 while in Hawaii
Returned to US mainland studied nursing at technical college - graduated 1999
Divorced 2000
Studied to be chiropractor - graduated in 2006 - opened a private practice in 2006 - closed in 2008 (note licence to practice as a chiropractor was not issued until end of August 2009)
Note: 10 year Chiropractic licence was issued in 2009 so is due for renewal come September 2019.

 

[John d]

Just a little scouring around checking this potential 'poetic licence'...
Please consider the following as IMO, although much gleaned from msm archives. Seems Chad Isaak has stretched the elastic somewhat in his adult life. Perhaps he has been 'called out' on something recent...

Graduated from high school 1992.
Joined the US Navy 1992.
Following initial training, he served as an assistant lab technician (not a medic as claimed) in Hawaii
Married 1995 while in Hawaii
Returned to US mainland studied nursing at technical college - graduated 1999
Divorced 2000
Studied to be chiropractor - graduated in 2006 - opened a private practice in 2006 - closed in 2008 (note licence to practice as a chiropractor was not issued until end of August 2009)
Note: 10 year Chiropractic licence was issued in 2009 so is due for renewal come September 2019.

I found that also in my searching tonight. He opened his office in hazen in 2006 and i found online tonight he didnt have a licence till 2008 or 2009 and he was up for review in 2019 i think

 

[John d]

I found that also in my searching tonight. He opened his office in hazen in 2006 and i found online tonight he didnt have a licence till 2008 or 2009 and he was up for review in 2019 i think

Another strange thing. He would take insurance but he would give a big discount for cash. So maybe it was a money thing but what amount of money is worth 4 lives.

 

[John d]

Another strange thing. He would take insurance but he would give a big discount for cash. So maybe it was a money thing but what amount of money is worth 4 lives.

One more thought and i am off to bed. Between hazen and washburn there are only 3 chiropractors. And they all do very well moneywise. The other 2 chiropractors drive new vehicles and live in very nice houses. Dr isaak drove a late 90s f150 and lives in a trailerpark. Something doesnt fit.

 

[Via Marple]

Who would have thought, the chiropractor did it. He could give life (back), or he could take it. He's either very caring, or very cruel. And now for whatever justification he has in his messed up mind, he is throwing away everything he has worked hard for.

I read that there is surveillance cctv showing his car/truck in the company parking lot. So the other company's video showing just one truck coming in, and one company truck leaving, may not be all the cctv evidence. LE has a lot more than that.

 

[Vaccine]

He sounds like an odd suspect for sure. But it doesn't sound like life was going his way - he'd had a messy divorce, ended up living with his parents for a while, practicing without a licence then moving to the new area but not really working sufficient hours, living on a trailer park. Taking cash to minimise his declared earnings for his tax bill and maybe child support.

In his photo released by the police he looks a little rough. Maybe a drink or drugs problem. Maybe he did have money troubles and a leasing dispute that does seem most likely or possibly even a sexual affair gone wrong.
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Or maybe he was trying to blackmail or embezzle someone in the facility who was going to go to the cops.
Nothing could possibly justify this act of course but maybe he spent too much time alone becoming more and more embittered. Its very sad for the families and the community.

JMO.

 

[Seattle1]

Arrest made in Mandan, North Dakota homicides

Chad Isaak of Washburn, North Dakota is facing four charges of murder.

Police say they were able get pictures of the car leaving the area from surveillance cameras and were able to track the car to Washburn, about 35 miles from Mandan.

Authorities then made a traffic stop and police discovered evidence in the car and on Isaak that gave them probable cause to arrest Isaak.

Police did say that the four victims died of their gunshot or stab wounds or both.

"Even though an arrest has been made, the investigation is still going on. Investigators will continue to process evidence and gather information. At the present time the motive for the crime is unknown," Mandan Police Chief Jason Ziegler said.

Isaak lived in a trailer owned by the property management business.
police haven't said whether they have discovered the murder weapons.

 

[Seattle1]

Chad Trolon Isaak is being held on four counts of murder, according to the McLean County Sheriff’s Office. The 44-year-old Washburn, North Dakota, resident was booked into the jail on April 4. Isaak was arrested when a vehicle investigators connected to the case was spotted by the sheriff’s office in Washburn. Deputies conducted a traffic stop and detained Isaak while a search warrant was executed. Evidence led to probable cause to arrest Isaak on murder charges. The investigation is ongoing.

At a press conference, Mandan Police Chief Jason Ziegler told reporters he could not say what the motive in the killings was. He said that remains under investigation. But Ziegler did confirm previous media reports that Isaak lived in a trailer park managed by RJR Maintenance and Management. He lives in the Northview Mobile Home and RV Park, according to public records. Ziegler did not elaborate if police suspected that played a role in the company being targeted for the April 1 attack.
Chad Isaak: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

 

[Seattle1]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=450573055680377

Police Chief Ziegler presser at link

 

[zecats]

One of my first thoughts as well was whether his business office was a property managed by them. One easy way to move to a new town and find a home and office would be to go through something like a leasing agent.

Those are limited hours, wow. I wonder if he worked elsewhere although I have never known a chiropractor to do so. It is a small town though as far as how busy his office would be...

The first news cast stated that RJR only took over the management (from another company) this past summer. That's not a whole lot of time. Could he have developed a grudge that quickly? Something that wasn't resolved fast enough for him? Or not satisfactorily?

Good point that maybe his business was in one of their buildings as well.

It's all too much of a coincidence to me that it's not related somehow to his being a tenant or a user of their services. IMO

 

[Hatfield]

Who would have thought, the chiropractor did it. He could give life (back), or he could take it. He's either very caring, or very cruel. And now for whatever justification he has in his messed up mind, he is throwing away everything he has worked hard for.

I read that there is surveillance cctv showing his car/truck in the company parking lot. So the other company's video showing just one truck coming in, and one company truck leaving, may not be all the cctv evidence. LE has a lot more than that.

Yea its very strange this person was tagged by LE. Doesnt seem to be the typical stereotype for something like this.

I got confused about the videos too. Seems to imply that he drove up in his truck but then a company vehicle was seen leaving the property 4 minutes later. Maybe that was an employee escaping the killings and maybe the Dr. left in his own truck later. Its a little confusing about the vehicles seen. Would like to know where the company vehicle went and who was driving the RJR company vehicle.

"One report says that Helbling’s surveillance video shows a truck pulling into the RJR parking lot at around 7 a.m. Four minutes later, an RJR company truck pulled out of the business."

Chad Isaak: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

 

[zecats]

I guess the means and opportunity are readily apparent, and the motive has something to do with how his experience with RJR was handled. If I understand correctly, he had his own RV. The vid showed earlier (before this news broke) only showed houses, but the field reporter pointed back to where the RVs were. So what could make an RV owner so mad?

The neighborhood is described as an RV Park though. Sometimes people add onto the base unit and the trailers begin to look like houses. Also, many times a person or family owns the trailer, but leases the land. On RJR website, however, there is a listing for a trailer to rent in this specific park. (I posted link earlier. ) So apparently they do rent the units as well.
I wonder if they are also responsible for maintenance and other services as called for?