Based on your thoughts (I'm always happy to listen to everyone to open my mind), it was left there on the street.
Do you think it's possible that the killer killed SG inside Oak Beach, leaving his things at the beginning of the swamp, then driving all the way around and dumping the body on the street so as not to be seen by residents or neighbors, if he was a resident or do you think it was placed in the swamp some time later?
Because in the end, the killer would have had less than 40 minutes from when SH knocked on BB's door shortly after 5:00 AM to when the patrol arrived in the area at 5:40 AM...
I'm not saying she necessarily crossed the swamp; I have many hypotheses still open and I'm not pushing any of them.
I also like to keep the case alive, and maybe, why not, thinking about certain things further sometimes helps.
I couldn't agree more with keeping the case alive with an open mind.
Sometimes I believe Shannan was killed by accident attempting to abduct her. That comports with the either of the most plausible motives: killing/scaring her because she was about to be a witness in a NJ drug trafficking case, or she was targeted to kill for "fun." If it was an accident, Pak could possibly have killed her.
The problem is the items left outside. Coletti saw her with pants on, so that makes that hard to believe. I can't quite imagine how she would lose her pants in a chase gone wrong. It seems more likely she would be dumped pants on, and with her things.
Therefore, I usually believe she was successfully subdued and captured by somebody before the police arrived. I believe she was eventually murdered, and her body dumped in the marsh from the road. I don't think she was murdered before police arrived. Her things were also dumped after the police came and went, and may have been dumped later than her body, given their relatively good condition.
I think she was not killed immediately, was not separated from her pants immediately, and that neither her things nor her body were in the marsh when the police finally arrived under the rising sun.
Peter Hackett, who lived near the last house she knocked on, called Shannan's mother and told her he treated her, that he has a home for wayward girls, and implying she was alive and would turn up.
Pak was booking the evening, and could possible have had a client we don't know about. His claims, repeated by Kolker, that Shannan was self-employed and made the "dates" were not true, at least that evening. This was established early in the investigation.
In any case, Pak hung around a long time, and seemed determined to make sure Shannan got someplace after Brewer. Possibly that someplace was right outside Brewers house. He never, on the 911 tape, expressed anything to suggest he was in a security role. For example, when Shannan said someone was after her, he never said the obvious, like, "I'm here. I'll make sure nobody touches you." Then, when she ran, he chased her for a while. Then his next movements are not known.
The security camera footage mysteriously disappeared. Also, the police never asked for it.
Suffolk County refused to take a missing persons report, although that may have worked against them if they wanted to down play this investigation . Because that forced Shannan's mom To report to another agency, which seared on the record her recollection of the phone calls she got from Hackett. Later, evidence was to come to light which made her claims credible and durable enough to survive her.
So, I don't have a strong hypothesis for exactly who killed Shannan. But I do believe it is a strong hypothesis that Pak and Hackett do know who killed her, even if it wasn't directly either of them.
Brewer? How much coukd he know? I don't have a strong hypothesis. Possibly, he was hired to groom Shannan, and has much more information. He did come off to me more irritated that the whole Shannan thing was going too long; he didn't sound like he had anything to do with whatever happened next with Shannan to me. But it seems that Brewer did know that something was going to happen next that would be interrupted by the police, and he seemed to be concerned enough with whoever was going to do whatever to not call the police himself to get Shannan evicted. But, IMO only, it felt to me like Brewer felt it was someone else's thing coming up, not his concern, and he was irritated that his involvement was extended. It seemed to me he didn't really care about 911 on the line, as long as nobody could accuse him of calling.
Heuermann is sounding more and more plausible to me. He is very distinct looking, and Shannan seemed to see something which told her she was in danger. It could have been him. She had called a cab in the past and ended a "date" with Rex. And, since the "date" included fake money, it was clearly supposed to be the last one. Heuermann prides himself on being able to find anyone anywhere, and this could be how he found Shannan. In addition, dumping bodies is like him. (In contrast, dumping their STUFF, AFAIK, is not like Heuermann. So, IDK.)
There is no information as to how Shannan got to LI to see Rex at a hotel months before her disappearance. She took LIRR home. Was that how she got to LI? Did a ride drop her off? Plan to pick her up? If her ride left and she was put in danger previously on LI, maybe the set up with Pak staying for a whole "date" with a probably new client to Shannan was part of trying to convince her that this trip to LI won't be the same.
In any case, Rex involved or not, I believe Shannan was separated from her pants murdered on May 1 or later, and after the police came on May 1. I believe Pak and Hackett must have a tremendous amount of information about her murder but they do not share it for some reason. I believe Hackett was very integral in interfering with the investigation for some reason, but the reason would not have to be that he was a physical murderer. It's even possible to me he actually did believe she was alive when he called Mari. Maybe he did give her a sedative then sent her off alive with Pak. But...he spent a lot of effort on the coverup, being the one most likely involved with dissapearing the surveillance video.
A common objection to suspecting Pak's involvement is, "If Pak had known she was going to be murdered, why did he stick around?" Well, we don't know if Brewer was Pak's last booking for the early morning. It very well could be, once she got to his next client, he would go home.
I just don't think the Marsh was anything more than a dumping ground in this story.
MOO
