Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt1

[WholeLottaRosie]

Going to Jeff Conner from MCS for an interview.

Where was husband?

He reportedly left at 5:30 to workout at gym?

Husband found dead or police?

He called local police.

He was five minutes away and he called police?

5 - 10 minutes away, said he tried to call entire time he was gone, called officers, they arrived first

KTS radio host? Didn't get name?

Nancy asked if killed in sleep?

Normal Habit to workout at that time?

Yes, we can only assume, don't know. Know he did an over night shift normally

Someone else, a woman, didn't get name?
Why not go home instead of calling police?

5:43 he left, called police just over an hour later for a welfare check

Steven Rodges from NY explaining welfare check
Thinks this is suspicious abuot his story,
Nancy reinerates not a POI or suspect

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

How can tell if strangled in sleep - some expert says they can tell manual or with ligature, it is Dr.Perper what would he expect to find to tell if a struggle, he is explaining this, can tell from defense wounds.

Back to Major Jeff Connor, any forced entry

Damage to screen, back window to basemont open,

Forced or left open?
No indication of force?
No
Burglarized>? Anything taken?

Will not comment at this time.

Thanking him, back to McGraw Milhaven
Don't knwo if anything taken, do know words on wall, "we told youthis would happen"
Murdered took time to write on wall?

Yes, was found when police got there.

Little boys 9 and 11, Mom, served in Air Force just 31 years old

That is it, to commercial now.

sorry for the rough transcript.

 

[TallCoolOne]

:blowkiss:

I hear ya....I've been doing a lot of sitting on my hands the past couple of days...and I mainly just lurk anyways...:woohoo:

Yuppers, I do a lot of the same. I've read way too many of these cases to ignore the obvious. So sad that three people were brutally murdered in what should be their safe haven.

I know one thing. If he was the chief of security for my firm, he'd be looking for a new job right about now.

 

[southcitymom]

Medusa thanks so much for the transcript!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Lengthy reported filed today by Randolph newspaper. Contains some of the best and most comprehensive reporting so far, IMO. Information about the threats, the camera trained on the mailbox and the writing left on the wall is discussed.

Hopefully, the reporting is accurate as it ties up many of the "tidbits" that have been floating around.

http://www.randolphcountyheraldtribune.com/homepage/x362994168

Perhaps the "person of interest" is the "unknown individual" the Coleman's reported as having an interaction with that was "suspicious in nature"

Gee, the majority seems to be of the opinion that Coleman planned and carried this out ... if so, how did he "plan" the interaction with the "unknown individual" that was "suspicious in nature" ?

I rather think he didn't and don't think Coleman killed his family.

This article is simply a compilation of other articles and information. There is nothing new that I could find within the article which is not already listed on this thread.

I will repeat this for your benefit:

The family also had a previous interaction with Columbia Police when they called them to document some interaction between an unknown individual and themselves.

“There was some interaction between an unknown individual and them that was just suspicious in nature. We don’t even know that it was a crime; they just contacted the police and wanted to document some incidents,” said Deputy Commander Jeff Connor.

http://www.randolphcountyheraldtribune.com/homepage/x362994168

This clearly says Columbia Police went out to take a report that someone (unknown individual) was supposedly in some way bothering the Coleman's. (We know now this meant "threats in the mailbox".) Of course, it would be suspicious...but LE could mean they were suspicious the person may be Chris leaving them since they did not specify. Saying they don't even know that it was a crime indicates no proof it was someone else leaving them. (As far as I know, it is illegal to leave anything in somone's mailbox and a threat could be treated as a crime depending on the contents.)

 

[Wrinkles]

About that unknown individual...

>>“There was some interaction between an unknown individual and them that was just suspicious in nature. We don’t even know that it was a crime; they just contacted the police and wanted to document some incidents,” said Deputy Commander Jeff Connor.<<

Interesting "we don't even know that it was a crime" -- just something documented. Seems if it was documented, there would be some info about what it was. Someone throwing litter in their yard? Someone they suspected of bonking their mail box?

Okay then there is:
>>It was reported, the family had been receiving threats for the last 6 months through notes left in their mailbox. Neighbors reported that the notes the Coleman family had been receiving dealt with Coleman’s job.<<

Now if those notes were about "death threat" (and we have NO information to that effect that I know of) -- did these get similarly documented? Sure seems they would have been very important to document. Where are those notes? Were they given to the police at the time -- did both Sheri and Chris see the notes OR did Chris so-called see them and not show Sheri? Did the neighbors see any of these notes? Were these notes handwritten? Typed? Letters cut out from magazine and newspaper articles?

Threats? "You gonna lose your job bubba" kinda threats? If we are to believe the "I told you this would happen" supposedly painted on the wall -- then wouldn't we assume those were dangerous threats worthy of documentation? Where's the soup?

W

 

[analytical]

This article is simply a compilation of other articles and information. There is nothing new that I could find within the article which is not already listed on this thread.

I will repeat this for your benefit:

The family also had a previous interaction with Columbia Police when they called them to document some interaction between an unknown individual and themselves.

“There was some interaction between an unknown individual and them that was just suspicious in nature. We don’t even know that it was a crime; they just contacted the police and wanted to document some incidents,” said Deputy Commander Jeff Connor.

ummmm ... is it possible to have a difference of opinion? thanks for allowing me that ... as I allow you same .. a "repeat" was not necessary and does not sway my thinking to your "side"

http://www.randolphcountyheraldtribune.com/homepage/x362994168

This clearly says Columbia Police went out to take a report that someone (unknown individual) was supposedly in some way bothering the Coleman's. (We know now this meant "threats in the mailbox".) Of course, it would be suspicious...but LE could mean they were suspicious the person may be Chris leaving them since they did not specify. Saying they don't even know that is was a crime indicates no proof it was someone else leaving them. (As far as I know, it is illegal to leave anything in somone's mailbox and a threat could be treated as a crime depending on the contents.)

repeat .. is this a test? is there a failing grade?

seems our opinions differ .. hope that's acceptable

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Medusa thanks so much for the transcript!!!

No problem. I thought you all might like it before waiting for the official transcript.


They are asking for publics help, no suspect yet, I caught that on a relisten.
Relistening now, a few additions
Called police on his way back to house per Connors.

Woman reporter, Melody something, said he left at 5:43 or 5:45 and called police at 6:50

Dr Perper is Chief Med Ex for Broward County Florida and a frequent guest on NG

Would expect signs of struggle on strangulation to be damage to nails (of victim)

Connors - no alarm system, no indication of forced entry

Asked McGraw Milhaven - anything taken? Any sex attack?
Mihaven - nothing taken, writing on wall, didn't comment on sex attack.

 

[analytical]

Threats? "You gonna lose your job bubba" kinda threats? If we are to believe the "I told you this would happen" supposedly painted on the wall -- then wouldn't we assume those were dangerous threats worthy of documentation? Where's the soup?

In the large pot of info that is not released to the public by the investigators

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

How can tell if strangled in sleep - some expert says they can tell manual or with ligature, it is Dr.Perper what would he expect to find to tell if a struggle, he is explaining this, can tell from defense wounds.

Back to Major Jeff Connor, any forced entry

Damage to screen, back window to basemont open,

Forced or left open?
No indication of force?
No
Burglarized>? Anything taken?

Will not comment at this time.

Thanking him, back to McGraw Milhaven
Don't knwo if anything taken, do know words on wall, "we told youthis would happen"
Murdered took time to write on wall?

Yes, was found when police got there.

Little boys 9 and 11, Mom, served in Air Force just 31 years old

That is it, to commercial now.

sorry for the rough transcript.​

SO, it was.....WE.....and not I........told you this would happen.
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makes a difference to me......means more then one, then just one as in I..........or perhaps he was wrong, and it was I..........this is perfect example of why ones need official LE report, to know for sure what is true, and not just speculation, posted as possible fact.....I had problem excepting the I instead of WE...

 

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy Grace is having a report on this right now. Just started. Someone giving an overview of the case and the backgrounds of Sheri and Chris.

Darn I miss Nancy I emailed mailed her about this family.I was wondering when she would talk about it.I will have to watch at 10.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

SO, it was.....WE.....and not I........told you this would happen.
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makes a difference to me......means more then one, then just one as in I..........or perhaps he was wrong, and it was I..........this is perfect example of why ones need official LE report, to know for sure what is true, and not just speculation, posted as possible fact.....I had problem excepting the I instead of WE...

I am sure I heard WE and I watched/listened twice, but I just switched the station over, darn it. I am not going to swear I got it correct, I tried. I don't know what time the official transcript gets put on the NG site.

Thanks for pointing that out, as I said I listened twice and didn't catch the significance of WE.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello MikeysMomMom,

THANK you for contacting Nancy! Now, let's hope that more like that happens

W

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Hello MikeysMomMom,

THANK you for contacting Nancy! Now, let's hope that more like that happens

W

Really now that NG had it, maybe it will get more national attention.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

repeat .. is this a test? is there a failing grade?

seems our opinions differ .. hope that's acceptable

I said "repeat" because it has been posted several times and I figured people are getting tired of reading it by now.

I prefer bets instead of tests. LOL I don't have a problem with you having a different opinion at all. It is how I make extra cash around here. (Just kidding, of course!)

 

[mikeysmommom]

I sure hope so.Here in NJ nothing has been in the news.As far as we versus I to me not important of course he would write we to throw suspicion off of him.

 

[Melanie]

Joyce Meyer Ministries is a huge organization. She is a televangelist (?), best selling author, and has several ways of making money. She travels all over the country doing her work while filling stadiums and concert halls. (She is scheduled to be in Tulsa, OK at the new BOK Center on May 14-16.) We are talking big money!! Security detail for her would be required in every venue. I am guessing his job would pay fairly well since he does travel some with her.

This brings up the question of why are they having such financial trouble? His job sounds pretty secure unless there were troubles on that front we are unaware of at this time.

Oh...herrrrr! I used to be a fan of ministeries as far back as the Tammy and Jimmy Baker fiasco. Then I realized what a con these people are.

I've listened to her - don't like her (like I don't like many travelling televangelists). They don't say anything a proper momma wouldn't teach you growing up. Goal: you're not going to heaven unless U give me 10% of your paycheck.

I saw this case on Nancy Grace tonight, and in 2 seconds I nailed it down - the dad did it. Unless they find some grimacing, letter and wall writer down the road, you won't convince me otherwise.

Did I hear it right - HE DIDN'T GO TO THE FUNERAL?

 

[mikeysmommom]

Hello MikeysMomMom,

THANK you for contacting Nancy! Now, let's hope that more like that happens

W

Thank you but I am sure many here flooded her email with it.Its about time she is reporting it.

 

[analytical]

I didn't hear it said as "we" .. but I could have heard it wrong.. the guy did talk rather fast .. wasn't he a Yankee? :crazy::woohoo:

 

[mikeysmommom]

I wonder why he did not go to the vigil for his family.