Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt1

[chestergal]

I know the B&B you are speaking of but I don't know how the quality of the service is.
I am not sure which restaurant you are speaking of. (I guess it depends on which way you are coming into town) - but there is not much here nowadays for eating out.
We do have a nice Mexican Restaurant up in the small strip plaza next to the grocery store.

What type of food do they serve?
Is it an old building that sits on the river edge called the Landmark/Captain's Table? (if so that has new owners and the place is not doing so good now.)

Now Sparta (20 miles out) has a great new restaurant called Southside Ribs - If you come down here you really have to eat there. It is on the south end of town (on South Rt 4) towards the Steelville T that links to 150 that comes into Chester.

Do you know where the Grace Church sits in Chester? (It sits next to the Best Western Hotel near Wal-Mart)

Grace Church sits on State St (Rt 150) and Murphysboro Rd (aka Rt 2)
The only Hill near the Church is across from the Church's right side (along Murphysboro Rd) and there are home up on the hill there. The reporter probably walked through the back yard of the home that had the big tree down so she could watch what was going on at the Church since they were not allowed to be on the Church property and there are no sidewalks in that area of Chester.

My family there are strange. ;o) They are long timers, and pretty old actually. Most of the children and all moved. LOL. I totally agree with what you said - I visit, I don't live there. It is charming, I love Southern IL - especially Red Bud, Prairie du Rocher, the various small towns, etc. And the Menard Home has always been one of my favorite places, and Fort de Chartres, Ft Kaskaskia, glad these are all reopening. (The Menard Home is the home of Pierre Menard, the first Lt. Gov. of IL for whom the prison is named, his home is on the bluffs of the Mississippi River and is like a small version of Mt. Vernon. It is so charming and the river views are breathtaking.)

The family in Chester is not the closest part of the family, but, I have been to and through Chester more times than I can count. There is a B and B there - the old church - that we have considered going to for a long weekend or midweek get away. Do you know anything about that and if it is nice? I have thought it hard to tell from B and B listings. And I don't want to ask the relatives cause if we go, I want it to be not a visit to them, if you know what I mean. I don't know anyone who has stayed in it. We are weird - sometimes we like to just go to out of the way places and get away from TV, Net, phones, etc for a few days. I can't think of the name of the one restaurant I like, a nice meat and three type place on the way into town before you get to the bridge road and the cematary. It's on the right?

That was a bad storm, we were lucky up here it totally missed us. We have friends across the river though that had a lot of damage, lots of downed trees mostly.

I can really see what you are saying about the locals though.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Excellent points. I have been thinking that if they had good evidence of a stalker or whatever, they would have gotten that info out and maybe something about needing to be on the lookout for this person. If that was true and if the threats were real.

But if they were taken down by someone who knew it/they were there its possible that they only would have caught the killer's hand. And if the killer was a stranger/stalker and they saw one camera, how would they know it was the only camera?

We also don't know if the camera was recording to a tape in the camera or to a remote location in the house. I wish I knew more about video cameras!
Maybe its just me but I don't know how they can prevent crime like an alarm system, all they can do is tape the crime as it happens. It does not make sense to me that they did not have alarms on the house.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

The whole fingerprint issue makes me wonder about CC too. I understand that his lawyer may have been the one that advised him to wait for a court order, but considering that the murder happened in his home they would be very important so that LE can see if there were any fingerprints in the house that didn't match up to the family that lives there.

I really, really want to believe that this man did not do this because I am so freaking sick of parents murdering their children. The more I pick this apart though it does seem like he did it. Very sad.

I would love to see Mark K. talk to this guy on Nancy Grace. JVM seems to have psychologists on her show and it would be interesting to hear what they have to say. I do not get why this is not being featured on shows like that.

 

[fran]

You aren't losing your mind. It's here

http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=99536

click on the video named FATHER OF MURDERED FAMILY MEETS

It is stated around 1:40 of the video.

Thank you for this link, Lovejac.

Because this is the only media outlet that gives the timing of the husband/father obtaining the services of a defense attorney just hours after discovering his dead family, I might question their accuracy, as I've seen misreporting before. Even the AP. But this reporter said his attorney is the one who told her he'd hired them 'just hours after' the murders.

This is my 'hook,' regarding his guilt, in MY OPINION.

There is NO WAY an innocent person, in a situation of discovering their entire family murdered, would hire an attorney to protect their rights. That would be the furthest thing from their mind. The ONLY thing they'd be thinking of is 'who did this?' and 'I want justice for my loved ones!'

Sorry, my sympathy for him is gone. My personal vow at political correctness is gone, 'innocent until proven guilty.' This isn't a court of law and I think he's guilty.

Why? I want to know why? Why not a divorce? and.........WHY the children?

OMG.........

JMHO
fran

 

[Lindadanette]

Woah~ So he lawyered up hours after the murders!! Right...innocent people always make it their first priority to get an attorney a few short hours after finding out their wife and children were murdered. At least most husbands have waited until the bodies were cold. Sheesh!! Did he have him on speed dial or what?

I'm thinking that JMM advised and took care of getting that attorney, pronto. I'm sure that she truly cares about CC and his family as an employer and close friend, but it did seem strange that she was on the site so quickly. I mean she would have had to haul butt to get there by 8 am (and I feel very certain that she already had someone working on the legal aspects within and hour or two). JMM runs a tight ship.

 

[chestergal]

I don't know if this has been posted yet or not.

The MCS (Major Case Squad) is not going to disband anytime soon (normally they only work a case for 5 days here before turning it back over to local LE)

The quote was... The MCS is not going to disband anytime soon especially not after a day like today. (Monday)

LE got CC's fingerprints because they want to compare them to evidence that was collected. The MCS was still working on the case late Monday night per local Fox News who was outside the Columbia Police Station during the 10pm newscast.

I am now watching the 5am news this Tuesday morning and Fox has another reporter outside the Columbia Police Station again this morning.

Here is what was reported this morning by Fox Local News ...

The MCS IS IN CHESTER IL outside CC's parents home in unmarked cars.

(my comment: So they are watching him and they want him to know it. They want to keep close tabs on him... all they need is some forensic evidence to arrest him.)

I am hoping there will be an arrest today! (maybe I should keep my police scanner on)

 

[Lindadanette]

Thanks chestergal! I hope you are right.

 

[chestergal]

Tuesday, May. 12, 2009
No suspects in Columbia triple murder; father fingerprinted as investigation continues
http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/765109.html

-snippet- "We're still not prepared to call anyone a suspect," Connor said, adding that he wouldn't disclose any suspect's name unless the person is charged. -end snippet-
more at link

 

[LaLaw2000]

I predict an arrest either today or tomorrow also. I agree with you, chestergal!

 

[chestergal]

in the event this was not posted...


-snippet- Earlier Monday, detectives on the case visited Chester, Ill., where Christopher Coleman's father, the Rev. Ron Coleman, is a church pastor. Police were at the church and other locations but would not say why. -end snippet-

link here...
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...721F7AC65B144CD7862575B400082AB8?OpenDocument

 

[Lovejac]

THANK YOU! And I just might print out your post, laminate it and put it above my desk!

Shoot, Medusa, if I had known that, I would have typed it in cursive and added more smileys! Maybe even some of those 'dancing bananas' :biggrin:

:bananapowerslide: :Banane48: :Banane23: :Banane34: :Banane14: :Banane57:

 

[chestergal]

OMG - FOX NEWS in St. Louis is reporting on this website right now.
They did not have too many good things to say.
They said people should use caution when visiting the site because it based only on opinions and that there are people from the St. Louis area, Chester IL area and around the world posting about the Coleman case on Websleuths.

 

[Lindadanette]

Gee, Chestergal - how does it feel to be famous?

MCS already knows about us too - but they had nicer things to say.

 

[chestergal]

Hi John Pertzborn from Fox News in St. Louis! (reporter who just did the report on Fox News about the Websleuths website)

 

[chestergal]

he said we were pretending to solve cases.
he did say that some people on this thread claim to know Chris Coleman and that some of what has been posted by them has turned out to be true. (Pertzborn claims he ran across the website for the first time last week)

 

[chestergal]

He Twittered about this thread here...

http://twitter.com/PERTZFOX

WEBSLEUTHS taling about Coleman Murders crimes http://bit.ly/V6DAE
2 minutes ago from web

 

[t93]

Webslueths has threads on several other high profile local cases. Anyone who Googled Shaun Hornbeck was taken right here. They just now found this place?

 

[fran]

Oh goody! Free advertising for Websleuths!

He really should watch our threads. We have been known to break news to our members that the media doesn't even know about!

Just sayin'
fran

 

[SeriouslySearching]

he said we were pretending to solve cases.
he did say that some people on this thread claim to know Chris Coleman and that some of what has been posted by them has turned out to be true. (Pertzborn claims he ran across the website for the first time last week)

Pretending? Maybe he needs to go look at our accuracy on many cases we have done here (including some we were instrumental in solving) and probably needs to come back when this perp is arrested. I bet we nailed it within hours of the first report.

They added our link on the main Fox website almost a year ago. He is a bit behind.

He pretends to know how to spell, too. LOL

(Uhm...however, I didn't know he was reading along right now. Oops.)

 

[SuziQ]

Hi John Pertzborn from Fox News in St. Louis! (reporter who just did the report on Fox News about the Websleuths website)

He's probably jealous because the locals won't talk to him and we have a habit of scooping the media. :boohoo: