Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

[mikeysmommom]

Maybe we will get lucky and he will write a confession note to Sheri's family or LE and mail it and then leave a suicide note for his family just before he does himself in. That way no one will have to go the trial and the tax payers won't have to pay to convict, jail and in prison this ***hole.

On another note I wonder if 4 plots in a row were bought at the cemetery in Chester cause I sure hope they don't bury him next to Sheri and the boys if he does do himself in.

I hope Sheri's family can get a court order down the road to move Sheri and the boys up to Chicago.

Bless you Sheri's family - there are many in Chester who are praying for your family and these are people not sucked in by Grace Church or the Coleman family.
I want you to know that I will place flowers on their graves for you when I know you cannot because you are so far away.

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[Texas Mist]

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6 hrs ago

Was Chris Coleman involved in any extortion schemes? There is such a rumor going around.

didn't take long for *that* rumor to spread, did it?

 

[Wrinkles]

Lalalalala -- LALALALALA (warming up my morning voice)

Hallo ChesterG,

You took the words right out of my mouse (mouth = mouse, get the pun? figured I better explain it )

You wrote:
>>Maybe we will get lucky and he will write a confession note to Sheri's family or LE and mail it and then leave a suicide note for his family just before he does himself in. That way no one will have to go the trial and the tax payers won't have to pay to convict, jail and in prison this ***hole.<<

Yup, if I didn't already write that in here, I have thought about it a number of times. Perp, whoever you are, do us all a HUGE favor, write a nice confession note (make sure it includes specific documentation that proves that you really did do this i.e. let LE know some things that no one else would know unless they did the act so there is no shadow of doubt that you are the perp), then off yourself in a nice tidy way (so we don't have to pay the bills for your clean up.) Please...save this world from any more of the defiling you have done to "ours" (no man is an island.)

You also wrote:
>>On another note I wonder if 4 plots in a row were bought at the cemetery<<

Now I hadn't thought of that, but there could be NOTHING so cruel as to bury a murderer next to their victims. If I even thought the murderer of my child and grandchildren were buried next to them, I would jeopardize my life and well being to separate them if I could not do so by legal means.

In addition you wrote:
>>I hope Sheri's family can get a court order down the road to move Sheri and the boys up to Chicago.<<

Yes and yes and yes... IF Chris is the perp -- absolutely positively. And even if he isn't the perp -- he has shown no respect to your daughter and grandchildren, he has offered no plea to the public to find the murderer, he has offered no reward to find the murderer, he has not spoken one word of love or respect to them in a public fashion while knowing this was all over the news, he hasn't even had a close family member or his attorney do this on his behalf -- he is, without a doubt, one of the most thoughtless people, in the face of the "murder" of his wife and children, that I have ever encountered.

Sheri's family, IF you EVER need any support in bringing your beloveds to you for a proper resting place -- PLEASE let us know in here. PM me so that I don't miss it.

And your message to Sheri's family:
>>Bless you Sheri's family - there are many in Chester who are praying for your family<<

There are people around the country, and I'm sure the world (based on Sheri's outreach) praying for you. I am FAR away from Chester and praying for you.

W

 

[mikeysmommom]

didn't take long for *that* rumor to spread, did it?

LOL nope.

 

[Texas Mist]

When I say I hope they have an open court. I say that because I would like to sit in court.
Not because I want to see them rip Sheri apart. (I think you all understood what I meant about open court)

with a town full of Coleman supporters, Sheri's family will need all the support they can get....I have a feeling they will need it since we all know how low defense teams will sink to get their client acquitted.

 

[Lindadanette]

Found this it explains camping trip this makes more sense.

to be or not to be May 17, 2009 11:01AM CST
My heart goes out to the woman who have posted their trials and tribulations with their ex's and their children. Thank you for posting.In regards to the family camping the weekend prior to the murder -- Sheri and CC did not go camping. The boys went camping with another family who have children the same age. Now whether CC and SC went camping on their own, I do not know. However, the boys were camping with their friends from Columbia.I, too, am curious about someone posting that Sheri was planning on moving out. I have not read anything in regards to this. Is this true?

If this is true, it would have given CC & SC private time to discuss whatever it was that was prelude to the murders. I would imagine that CC was in contact with TL to update her. . . there would be a spate of calls back and forth.

It seems like something acted as an accelerant to the flames, was it something that had been building since November? (JM in the Largo area).

Also, if CC WAS security at the compound as reported by a poster on another site. He would have been well aware of the comings and goings and could have been collecting information surreptitiously to use for extortion purposes as, once he left his "past life", there would be no going back. Could others in the Tampa area have been a part of the scheme to snag a chunk of JMM's chump change?

 

[who knew?]

IMO - CC is guilty. But thinking over the recent "clues" - IF (Big If) blackmail is key to this....................what if SC had an affair and was being blackmailed? But, unknownst to her, maybe CC is the one doing the blackmailing?? Suspose he had video as proof (sent of course by the "blackmailer") - He was, therefore, able to convince her to put everything in his name to "protect the family" - and because of his control issues, he killed her because his rules are that he can cheat but she can't. I still think he killed the kids because of some unforseen "problem" - maybe they woke up in the middle of strangling mom???
I know it's out there in left field - I just can't get a reasonable explanation as to why she would allow everything to be taken out of her name. The family did not have a lot of debt according to someone interviewed on NG. (Sorry - don't remember who, but it was mentioned above.) And to say that it was for some credit report purpose just doesn't make sense. If they didn't have a lot of debt, how would putting everything is CC's name help their credit score? If there was very little credit card debt and it was left in her name, how is that going to help them? There's no need for bankruptcy in that case - she isn't making enough money to get any kind of additional debt........ This just doesn't make sense to me. I want to know why she was willing to sign away her rights? It was done in November - if they were talking divorce, and she was willing to sign away her posessions so she could have the boys, why wasn't she already gone....divorced...separated?

Just interested in seeing what you all think...

 

[pferrin]

IMO - CC is guilty. But thinking over the recent "clues" - IF (Big If) blackmail is key to this....................what if SC had an affair and was being blackmailed? But, unknownst to her, maybe CC is the one doing the blackmailing?? Suspose he had video as proof (sent of course by the "blackmailer") - He was, therefore, able to convince her to put everything in his name to "protect the family" - and because of his control issues, he killed her because his rules are that he can cheat but she can't. I still think he killed the kids because of some unforseen "problem" - maybe they woke up in the middle of strangling mom???
I know it's out there in left field - I just can't get a reasonable explanation as to why she would allow everything to be taken out of her name. The family did not have a lot of debt according to someone interviewed on NG. (Sorry - don't remember who, but it was mentioned above.) And to say that it was for some credit report purpose just doesn't make sense. If they didn't have a lot of debt, how would putting everything is CC's name help their credit score? If there was very little credit card debt and it was left in her name, how is that going to help them? There's no need for bankruptcy in that case - she isn't making enough money to get any kind of additional debt........ This just doesn't make sense to me. I want to know why she was willing to sign away her rights? It was done in November - if they were talking divorce, and she was willing to sign away her posessions so she could have the boys, why wasn't she already gone....divorced...separated?

Just interested in seeing what you all think...

No way she would be having an affair. NO WAY. She wasn't that type.
HE WAS

As far as signing the house over.. I believe he manipulated her. "We can get better interest rate..Lower our bills." Blah Blah Blah I am sure she still trusted him at that time.

 

[DairyGirl]

I just hope justice is done for Sheri and her sons.I hope they do not let anyone who goes to his daddys church or JM be on the jury.Those stepford are all brain washed , but I will say they arent all over the boards screaming he is innocent anymore.

Well, some of them anyway.

 

[SuziQ]

Who knew? What would make sense of all that is if CC took her name off everything without her knowing. It's very easy to do.

I wonder if Sheri had hired a divorce attorney? A quick search of assets would have revealed the deed changes. That in itself could have been the catalyst. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the day she was killed she was supposed to sign a divorce petition.

 

[DairyGirl]

not sure how insinuating blackmail could make CC look less guilty of murder...and if he wasn't and he was doing surveillance on behalf of JM or JMM because she/they were being blackmailed, why target his wife & kids?

still doesn't make sense to me.

And if he was blackmailing someone and they went after his family in retailiation, doesn't that defeat the purpose? What the blackmailer was trying to hid would definately come out in the trial and of course he would be exposed.

 

[Texas Mist]

IMO - CC is guilty. But thinking over the recent "clues" - IF (Big If) blackmail is key to this....................what if SC had an affair and was being blackmailed? But, unknownst to her, maybe CC is the one doing the blackmailing?? Suspose he had video as proof (sent of course by the "blackmailer") - He was, therefore, able to convince her to put everything in his name to "protect the family" - and because of his control issues, he killed her because his rules are that he can cheat but she can't. I still think he killed the kids because of some unforseen "problem" - maybe they woke up in the middle of strangling mom???
I know it's out there in left field - I just can't get a reasonable explanation as to why she would allow everything to be taken out of her name. The family did not have a lot of debt according to someone interviewed on NG. (Sorry - don't remember who, but it was mentioned above.) And to say that it was for some credit report purpose just doesn't make sense. If they didn't have a lot of debt, how would putting everything is CC's name help their credit score? If there was very little credit card debt and it was left in her name, how is that going to help them? There's no need for bankruptcy in that case - she isn't making enough money to get any kind of additional debt........ This just doesn't make sense to me. I want to know why she was willing to sign away her rights? It was done in November - if they were talking divorce, and she was willing to sign away her posessions so she could have the boys, why wasn't she already gone....divorced...separated?

Just interested in seeing what you all think...

Possible theories:

re: blackmail -- IF the blackmail rumor is true, isn't it usually people with $$ who are targeted?? I have to wonder along with others here if the "USC 1875" isn't a red herring.

re: house, cars, etc in CC's name -- who knows what kind of 'scam' CC could've been running on Sheri....people who are having affairs are also paranoid about their spouses....they start accusing them of being unfaithful even tho there's no way/no how the 'faithful' spouse would do such a thing...maybe he told her "prove you love me"....or he could've threatened her which leads to....

re: why wasn't she gone/divorced/separated -- because he could have done what many controlling spouses do -- told her "I'll hunt you down & kill you if you ever leave me"...."no one will ever find you if you leave me"...."you'll never, ever see the boys again if you even think about leaving", "who's going to believe you anyway", etc.

just tossing in some things to think about.

 

[who knew?]

I agree pferrin - but if he was controlling, etc., etc., etc.............maybe she just needed someone who cared?? It could also be something totally innocent - maybe CC filmed she and CC unknowingly to her, and then he used it as "blackmail". IDK - Maybe I read too many books - don't watch any tv except for news and NG and sometimes TRU tv. I just keep going back to the question - WHAT made her sign away all her possessions? Timeline doesn't work for me - signed away in Nov, stayed with him until murdered. I have no doubts he was cheating. (MOO) She may have even found out and confronted him. Things were sooooooo in place for him - it's in my nature to want to know why.

 

[who knew?]

Who knew? What would make sense of all that is if CC took her name off everything without her knowing. It's very easy to do.

I wonder if Sheri had hired a divorce attorney? A quick search of assets would have revealed the deed changes. That in itself could have been the catalyst. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the day she was killed she was supposed to sign a divorce petition.

If she had hired an attorney to start proceedings, wouldn't we have heard about it? I can't imagine it wouldn't have leaked to the press. I would like to know if she had contacted anyone about it......

 

[SuziQ]

Possible theories:

re: blackmail -- IF the blackmail rumor is true, isn't it usually people with $$ who are targeted?? I have to wonder along with others here if the "USC 1875" isn't a red herring.

re: house, cars, etc in CC's name -- who knows what kind of 'scam' CC could've been running on Sheri....people who are having affairs are also paranoid about their spouses....they start accusing them of being unfaithful even tho there's no way/no how the 'faithful' spouse would do such a thing...maybe he told her "prove you love me"....or he could've threatened her which leads to....

re: why wasn't she gone/divorced/separated -- because he could have done what many controlling spouses do -- told her "I'll hunt you down & kill you if you ever leave me"...."no one will ever find you if you leave me"...."you'll never, ever see the boys again if you even think about leaving", "who's going to believe you anyway", etc.

just tossing in some things to think about.

Hence the spray painted "I/we told you this would happen"

 

[SuziQ]

If she had hired an attorney to start proceedings, wouldn't we have heard about it? I can't imagine it wouldn't have leaked to the press. I would like to know if she had contacted anyone about it......

LE is going to keep the most damning information close to the vest and not let that get out.

 

[DairyGirl]

Not if in the first paragraph he was warned to stop (whatever he was suppose to stop) or his family would be killed.And he did not stop and then his family was killed..........not a hero still a slime.........but no one would ever publish it s
to unbelievable.

I don't understand. If he was the blackmailer and he was receiving threats and gave those threats to LE, why wasn't he arrested for blackmail?

 

[SuziQ]

Stacey Peterson had an appointment with a divorce attorney a few days after she went missing. But I don't think we found out about that for weeks or month's. This case is only 12 days old.

 

[who knew?]

Possible theories:

re: blackmail -- IF the blackmail rumor is true, isn't it usually people with $$ who are targeted?? I have to wonder along with others here if the "USC 1875" isn't a red herring.

re: house, cars, etc in CC's name -- who knows what kind of 'scam' CC could've been running on Sheri....people who are having affairs are also paranoid about their spouses....they start accusing them of being unfaithful even tho there's no way/no how the 'faithful' spouse would do such a thing...maybe he told her "prove you love me"....or he could've threatened her which leads to....

re: why wasn't she gone/divorced/separated -- because he could have done what many controlling spouses do -- told her "I'll hunt you down & kill you if you ever leave me"...."no one will ever find you if you leave me"...."you'll never, ever see the boys again if you even think about leaving", "who's going to believe you anyway", etc.

just tossing in some things to think about.

My first husband was very controlling and I know the damage they can do - I realize they can make you do things you wouldn't normally do. I was lucky - I got out with the clothes on my back and nothing else -

I can see that this could be the case with SC - but...... (there's always a "but", isn't there?) I can't see a controlling husband allowing her to go on her mission trips without him. DId he also go with her? I hadn't heard that he did - It is my understanding he didn't - and if he wasn't at her side, how could he control who she talked to, etc.........? Control freaks usually like to keep you under their thumbs at all times - no friends, no job, no spending money......

 

[kiki the parrot]

I do know that Sheri had a ton of friends - actually she may have been more popular than Chris and much more loved and outgoing than Chris was. I think Chris resented her deep inside his little sick mind. I also think he was jealous in many ways at the relationship Sheri had with her boys. I think he resented his boys also.

This exactly where I'm coming from. NPD. I just didn't want to "say it" out loud yet. One of the reasons I was going out there posting about possible homelife. Many people are not aware of what this type of personality can do to a person/family. It can be so very insidious. I think this may be a possible background regarding the murder of this family.

ITA. This level of envy is classic NPD. I experienced something frighteningly similar after marrying someone w every single one of these traits. The scary part is he was actually not only jealous of my relationships w people but my relationship w/ God (no really even private times of worship and a prayerlife caused resentment). The "E's" (lack of empathy, entitlement, exploitation, envy, the belief one is exceptional, need for excessive admiration etc) certainly fit the profile of many of the spouses who murder. Whose childish fantasies and insatiable egos demanded the ultimate sacrifice, and who felt their sick and twisted ends justified their extreme means. Ever gazing into distorted pools at perfect reflections they must keep up pretenses to the last. Cgal I was gonna ask to which Peterson you were referring but there's little difference, this monster wears many faces but only the faces and the names change...

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