Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

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What really gets me is why the SA did not Arrest him when MCS was sitting there waiting for the warrant to arrest .They are the best of the best if they felt he was the one why did the SA put it off? I do not know about the other stuff but I 99.9 know CC did kill his family, IMO.
I spent the day thinking about this...if it WASN'T him...it had to be someone so filled with HATE in order to commit this act against such innocents. Who could hate CC that much that they would turn this hatred against his family?
 
Usually people who have a spouse with bad credit won't have them on the loan and WILL add them to the deed later, for survivorship reasons. If she was on the loan and NOT on the deed, it would be without the lendor's knowledge, unless the lender was nuts! A borrower is more apt to ditch a loan if they've lost the right to the security.

If she signed off on the deed and not the note without the lender's knowledge, the lender can "call the loan" on CC immediately!
Bless you. I don't know what they were thinking, but I don't think it was a refinance. JMO
 
But we're talking the scenario of re-fi .. so she would quit-claim off the deed and they would seek to re-fi with another lender to get out from under the original mortgage.

When my ex re-fi'd, I only found out it was going to be in his name when the official papers came in. I did not have to sign a quit claim. My name is not on the mortgage, but it is on the deed. I agree with one poster who stated it may be a state to state thing. I just signed what I needed to sign.

As for CC's, because I was a homemaker, I had no choice but to use ex's income to get credit cards.
 
when does a case qualify for its own forum?
Good question...sorry for going OT everyone.
In a nutshell, I just think lack of money is a poor excuse to go out and murder one's family. Come to think of it, I can't think of any reason to do it. Whatever this person was thinking, he/she is one incredibly disturbed individual. If I was LE, I would want this person behind bars pronto. That part I'm not getting.
 
I spent the day thinking about this...if it WASN'T him...it had to be someone so filled with HATE in order to commit this act against such innocents. Who could hate CC that much that they would turn this hatred against his family?


I hope this doesn't come out wrong -- hating CC so much that his family wasn't just murdered, but strangled...that is soooo much rage! and those little boys....I still can't get over that!!

And the time frame of the killings (at least as we know it now)....that is very risky - even for someone who wanted to frame CC.
 
But we're talking the scenario of re-fi .. so she would quit-claim off the deed and they would seek to re-fi with another lender to get out from under the original mortgage.

IIRC they bought the house in 2005, ,Prices have dropped a lot in the last 4 yrs.Would they even be able to re-fi? They might have owed more then it is worth.
 
IIRC they bought the house in 2005, ,Prices have dropped a lot in the last 4 yrs.Would they even be able to re-fi? They might have owed more then it is worth.
all depends on how much they put down.
 
Enrico Mirabelli, who appears to be the spokesperson for Sheri's family, is the lawyer who sued HBO over the image The Sopranos brought to the Italian-American community.
 
I would be very surprised if LE has not already done some financial forensics regarding the Coleman's. It could prove interesting. Call me jaded, but one thing I have learned is the first place to look is finances. It can read like a map.....
 
100k a yr plus working jobs on side, seems like they would be ok money wise.


Some people never can have enough tho (not saying this applies to Sheri!)....or maybe they were paying the bills but wanted to have more to save...or maybe CC had plans for yet another business & needed cash for startup...maybe Sheri really didn't wanna sell the house & that's why she was doing housekeeping on the side....that could probably cause some tension, not only in the marriage, but if she wasn't going along with CC's plan for starting off with a clean plate with Miss Motive.

I also wondered -- surely CC wouldn't have been planning on pulling a Rusty Yates & moving them all into a travel trailer. :eek:

Can ya tell I've been mulling this over again today? ;)
 
Her name on the deed or not makes no difference in IL when it comes to divorce.

PROPERTY DISTRIBUTION:
Illinois is an equitable distribution state, meaning that marital property shall be divided equitably, not necessarily equally. For purposes of distribution of property, all property acquired by either spouse after the marriage and before a judgment of dissolution of marriage is presumed to be marital property, regardless of whether title is held individually or by the spouses in some form of co-ownership such as joint tenancy, tenancy in common, tenancy by the entirety, or community property. Marital property shall be divided, without regard to marital misconduct, considering all relevant factors, including:

The contribution of each party to the acquisition, preservation, or increase or decrease in value of the marital or non-marital property, including the contribution of a spouse as a homemaker or to the family unit.
The dissipation by each party of the marital or non-marital property.
The value of the property assigned to each spouse.
The duration of the marriage.
The relevant economic circumstances of each spouse when the division of property is to become effective, including the desirability of awarding the family home, or the right to live therein for reasonable periods, to the spouse having custody of the children.
Any obligations and rights arising from a prior marriage of either party.
Any post-nuptial agreement of the parties.
The age, health, station, occupation, amount and sources of income, vocational skills, employability, estate, liabilities, and needs of each of the parties.
The custodial provisions for any children.
Whether the apportionment is in lieu of or in addition to maintenance.
The reasonable opportunity of each spouse for future acquisition of capital assets and income.
The tax consequences of the property division upon the respective economic circumstances of the parties.

http://divorcesupport.about.com/od/usstatedivorcelaws/a/illinois_laws.htm
 
Maybe a pay off? or maybe a video of some one important.......In the legal profession? Is corruption involved?

You know, it might be a different type of corruption - Maybe CC filmed JM showing a side of herself that she wouldn't want broadcast on Utube.
 
Her name on the deed or not makes no difference in IL when it comes to divorce.

PROPERTY DISTRIBUTION:
Illinois is an equitable distribution state, meaning that marital property shall be divided equitably, snipped for space


Just further supports the refinance theory.
 
You know, it might be a different type of corruption - Maybe CC filmed JM showing a side of herself that she wouldn't want broadcast on Utube.

I've been wondering but I'd hate to have that reality. IdleSleuth did ask us to consider who CC traveled with?

Hmmmm..... any number of the Meyer family or ministry members he could be referring to.

Or .. I know everyone buys that CC did it .. but maybe CC saw something he felt so grotesque in light of ministry and the person found out they were being "surveilled" and CC was told to cease and desist .. and CC got the brunt of the problem.

Never know ... CC might have been watching something or someone he should not have and with dire outcome.

Corrupt people don't want to be exposed.
 
Just speculating
the husband/father is staying with his parents now i read
i just find it interesting, that LE is pretty positive whom did this, and waiting on some DNA evidence...In the meantime, a POI is staying with his parents, and LE does not seem concerned at all, that this person may snap again, and kill the parents and then himself?
If this were to happen, the public would be so outrage they didn't put him into custody, before he snapped aND kill the parents, that someone would have to resign there position and or get fired do to the public outrage..........I am just curious, how LE seems to be almost certain that the parents are not in any danger, and no one else for that matter, with this person still coming and going on the streets/if in fact he is the one that committed this crime, which i have doubts that he is the one, since hes still on the street.

someone under the influence of demons, committed a horrific crime, and to me, there would be no guarantee someone else would not be at risk at meeting a same kind of fate.....
Is he staying with the parents, I wonder, since threats were made to the family, and all three being together, they can keep a better eye on all 3...
Are the phone lines tapped, in the home, with parents permission i wonder, incase someone calls.........or is there another, whom is being watched 24/7 but no where near the family, and wont be allowed to get close to the family, untill the DNA results come in?
ALL MOO AND SPECULATIONS ON MY PART.
 
Woohoo! Hours later, I am totally caught up on the thread, go me!

Now I have opinions. Go me x 2.

Blackmail, surveillance, re-financing the house, red herrings. Occam's Razor. Sure, there are lots of innocent reasons to put assests under the name of one spouse. If that's true that it was innocently done, it's completely irrelevant. Then again, it could be a part of a pattern of controlling, hypocritical, and classically narcissitic behavior that culminated in the methodically planned murders of his wife and children and his overly complicated and, at the same time, very naive cover up.
 
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