Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt4

[Melanie]

The "welfare" check.

For me, right now, it's the timeline. If it works out as suggested, the killer had a little over an hour to get in, kill, get out, without anyone seeing him/her. Not to mention taking time to write on the wall. I'm sure in reality world it could be done...but by whom? Me thinks it was the same person who was in the house before going to the gym!

Also, did he usually call his wife everytime he went to the gym? Man - what was this guys calling patterns?

The girlfriend (motive)

JMO --

Mel

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I want the TOD released. It would end all the speculation. Either he was there or he was not when they were murdered.

 

[analytical]

I want the TOD released. It would end all the speculation. Either he was there or he was not when they were murdered.

I wish Mr. "strangulation by zip tie" would reappear and elaborate.

 

[ALT]

I am keeping my fingers crossed that's what they found.

I haven't heard a word about the dvr being found. That doesn't mean they didn't find something else!

 

[audiogirl]

I want the TOD released. It would end all the speculation. Either he was there or he was not when they were murdered.

I totally agree! How could CC possibly explain a TOD that is earlier? Of course, they could have "appeared" to have been sleeping and he didn't want to disturb them.

 

[cleo612]

That's odd. I have a very reliable source, who I am also unable to mention, and this individual has provided me with information that makes me think CC is not guilty. Like you, this information has not been released to the public.

Bravo! At the risk of ridicule, and I don't mind that, I'll use a term ... "hinky meter........."

MY HINKY METER KEEPS ERRING ON THE SIDE THAT COLEMAN HAD NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!

I believe he will be EXONERATED and VINDICATED!

.... my source, at this time, also cannot be revealed

I am curious about something.

MCS has stated that only one person is responsible for these horrific murders (albeit without naming a suspect), and the general consensus is that Chris Coleman is responsible.

Both of you have stated that your sources have indicated that Chris Coleman is NOT responsible and is, in fact, innocent.

So, did either of your sources provide you with the name of the "REAL" suspect?

 

[analytical]

Well HELLO frmrchesterguy,

Another poster and myself thought your comments about "strangulation by zip tie" were rather eerie.

You wouldn't know anything about this case that is not being shared with the public, would you?

I guess what I'm wondering ... scratching head here ... it's rather odd, at lest to me, that you appear out of the blue, claim to have known Coleman, made some comments about how the military might "change" a man .. and them jump to "strangulation by zip tie" and ... well .. uh .. you DID mention how EASILY it would be to "go on to the next person .... and BY GOLLY .... you did say THREE victims.

If your profile didn't state you live in St. Louis, I might'a be wondering if you were well ... uhh .. somehow involved with the messy details of this case or have some knowledge of how it was committed .. because ... I had to research "strangulation by zip tie" and it was not a pretty picture.

So, what say ye? Was it just the pizza I had for dinner that caused me such alarm when I read your narration or something else?

Because .. you write about it so eloquently ... as if you have studied it or, at some level, have some intimate knowledge of such a gruesome "method", if you will ..

And .. for the sake of you not having to dig through the responses .. here's your post of Saturday evening

Do let us know how you could .. at least to me ... write so cryptically .. but then again, maybe it was my pizza that gave me the "eeries"
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05-16-2009, 12:37 AM
fmrchesterguy
Registered User Join Date: May 2009
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 13

Quote:
Originally Posted by jnTexas
I thought about that, but strangulation is a very personal crime. Either way though he would still be guilty of murder.

Manual strangulation would be very personal. You could strangle a person in very impersonal ways however. You could use a zip tie for instance, cinch it tightly around a person's neck, and walk away, moving on the the next victim.

A person could probably do 3 sleeping people in this way in under a minute. If you woke up with a zip tie tightened around your neck, I'm sure you would be far too panicky to do anything useful to save your own life in the few seconds of consciousness you had left.

 

[ALT]

Or in addition to. The closed casket thing has really bothered me. If it was just strangulation, makeup and clothing could have masked those wounds.

There is a reason the caskets were closed. I'm sorry I can't reveal why but there is.

 

[DairyGirl]

I guess you'll be waiting a very long time. Personal attacks towards myself and milopedes are really catty and unnecessary.

Have we now become the enemy because we have a differing opinion?

Continue to think I am 'part of the Coleman family' .. if it's amusing to you .. go ahead ... but I, like Milopedes, won't be part of a lynch mob based on very scanty details.

You advocate open mindedness...is there any part of you that thinks that it is a possiblity that CC did this?

 

[analytical]

I am curious about something.

MCS has stated that only one person is responsible for these horrific murders (albeit without naming a suspect), and the general consensus is that Chris Coleman is responsible.

Both of you have stated that your sources have indicated that Chris Coleman is NOT responsible and is, in fact, innocent.

So, did either of your sources provide you with the name of the "REAL" suspect?

My answer is "no"

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Ain't that the truth My husband, OTOH, can get ready for work in 5 seconds. He's a fabricator, so probably a bit different. But, if CC got up to go to the gym, he probably just got up and put on some shorts, or had a gym bag handy. Not sure. Wonder if there's any evidence of a wet toothbrush, coffee that had been made, breakfast?

I'm aching to know what he did before he went to the gym (well, if he didn't kill his family that is).

Best,

Mel

Hmmm...interesting. I had not thought about what he did when he supposedly got up that morning. I wonder if there was evidence he ever went to bed the night before?

I still have a tendency to believe someone did hear screams at 3:00 am and if so it would mean he only slept 2.5 hours...in which case wouldn't a person be a bit tired to jump up and hit the gym first thing? However, if you were full of adrenaline after killing your family then a gym may be the perfect place to go for a half@ssed alibi.

 

[analytical]

You advocate open mindedness...is there any part of you that thinks that it is a possiblity that CC did this?

not at this point ...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

My answer is "no"

LOL SODDI defense!

 

[jandkmom]

I'm still holding out about CC doing this also. (ducking now)

Where are our Florida document dumps?????

 

[kiki the parrot]

Doesn't his call for a wellness check .. knowing that it was his pattern to call home each morning to make sure the family was up because he drove the boys to school .. in light of the threats he had received .. his custom to call them ... doesn't his single act of calling for the officer across the street to check on his family at least point to his concern and a "strong sense to protect his family"?

While the threats, etc. have been discounted as a ruse and the majority opinion seems to be that Coleman set this all up, let's assume Coleman IS innocent .. he IS being threatened .. it IS his routine to call in the a.m. while he is at the gym to make sure the family is up .. what he encounters is he can't reach his family ... so of course he becomes alarmed .. so he calls to have someone check on them ... and arrives home shortly after the discovery of the bodies.

I have read, but can't substantiate, that it was his routine to go to the gym after his night shift.

(bold/underline mine) Needless to say what one poster believes is based upon logic or reason can often appear completely illogical or unreasonable to another. That said, w all respect, it is simply that, given what facts we have, I have to make many more assumptions--essentially to stand on my head while simultaneously bending over backwards--to perceive this husband and father as innocent than I do to conceive of his guilt. Now if this were a court of law or we jurors, then the burden of proof would be considerably higher. But this is not, it is a discussion--yet to be given even a forum of it's own thus inclusive of all angles, interests and perspectives. And your premise requires me to afford entirely too many benefits--to assume it was his "custom" to make calls each and every morning at this hour; to assume the so-called "threats" (which never constituted an actual crime) he claims were made upon him and his family are legit; to assume an intruder perfectly timed his entry, executions, and exit of family home in the short span of time he did an early morning workout; to assume this security pro, w all his high-tech knowledge and high-powered equipment left his threatened home unsecured from home invasion; to assume he and his family somehow became targets of the Columbia Spray Painting Psychokiller; and to further assume the extramarital affairs were A-0K w SC and such a betrayal would not have caused ongoing conflict, or one last heated confrontation, nor ultimate consequence nor bear any connection to this family's annihilation. I dunno, it's asking alot. The only thing that can make this look any worse is if what's spraypainted on the wall is, "SODDI." JMO

arrot:

 

[SuziQ]

I haven't heard a word about the dvr being found. That doesn't mean they didn't find something else!

Did you hear what was found? Not that I expect you to say. lol, can we play is it bigger than a breadbox?

 

[TallCoolOne]

He did, he did! I just wish I could share what I know but I can tell you this. Mr. Margulis has some pretty difficult road blocks ahead of him when all the evidence against CC comes out.

Oh, to be a bug in your ear!!! Thank you, that is encouraging. Hopefully the time will come that you can spill the beans!!

 

[ALT]

Did you hear what was found? Not that I expect you to say. lol, can we play is it bigger than a breadbox?

Yes, I did hear but can't say what. Don't want to tip LE's hand for the defense attorneys.

 

[analytical]

(bold/underline mine) Needless to say what one poster believes is based upon logic or reason can often appear completely illogical or unreasonable to another. That said, w all respect, it is simply that given what facts we have, I have to make many more assumptions--essentially to stand on my head while simultaneously bending over backwards--to perceive this husband and father as innocent than I do to conceive of his guilt. Now if this were a court of law or we jurors, then the burden of proof would be considerably higher. But this is not, it is a discussion--yet to be given even a forum of it's own thus inclusive of all angles, interests and perspectives. And your premise requires me to afford entirely too many benefits--to assume it was his "custom" to make calls each and every morning at this hour; to assume [/] so called "threats" (which never constituted an actual crime) he claims were made upon him and his family are legit; to assume an intruder perfectly timed his entry, executions, and exit of family home in the short span of time he did an early morning workout; to assume this security pro, w all his high-tech knowledge and high-powered equipment left his threatened home unsecured from home invasion; to assume he and his family somehow became targets of the Columbia Spray Painting Psychokiller; and to further assume the extramarital affairs were A-0K w SC and such a betrayal would not have caused a conflict, confrontation, nor would it bear possible connection to a family annihilation. I dunno, it's asking alot. The only thing which could make this look any more damning IMO is if what's spraypainted on the wall is, "SODDI." JMO

arrot:

I'd like to read the entirity of your posts but am unable to .. the varying color inks and the fine font don't lead to anything but eyestrain for me.

Is it possible you could just use "plain old black"

 

[Melanie]

Or in addition to. The closed casket thing has really bothered me. If it was just strangulation, makeup and clothing could have masked those wounds.

Do you think it was a religious thang? As far as the closed casket goes? Maybe our family is weird (ok, I'll admit we are weird), but I can't remember ever having an open casket funeral going all the way back to my great-grandparents. My mom insisted on cremation, and my grandparents insisted on "no funeral". It took me ages to figure out where they were even buried.

My grandma (on my dad's side) had a funeral, but it was closed casket too.

In the UK (where my hubby is from) they don't do open caskets in his family either.

I guess that's where I get it from. Cremation, and no fancy funeral is my choice

Best,

Mel