Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt6

[panthera]

Thanks. It seemed he did it stealth style. Maybe Sheri was able to scream once before she died. He could have even already killed the children by then so they couldn't come to her aide.

Such a sad case.

imo

I'd think he would've killed Sheri first since she was his greatest threat, but we probably won't ever know what order it happened. What would be interesting, to me at least, is a floor plan of the house to see where the bedrooms are in relation to each other. All I've seen are photos of the exterior.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

"Seeing someone I worked with come through the door in the jump suit, with the handcuffs on, it hurts. It really does," said freelance photojournalist, George Wise, who's been covering the case for the Associated Press and others. "I was just shocked. I was just like, 'this cannot be Chris Coleman. There's no way. This is not the Chris Coleman I know'."

~snip~

"It's just devastating to stand here and look at his house and just know that his life there is over. It's just absolutely over," Wise said standing outside the Coleman home. "I'm really sad. I think when you look at the pictures of the children you look at Sheri, you look at him, they looked very happy...I have made it a point to stay on this story as a journalist," he added, wiping a tear. "Because I want the truth. I want the truth for me and the community because I care about Sheri and who she is. I do care about Chris even though he's in this horrible situation, whether he did it or not, the truth has got to come out."

http://www.kplr11.com/news/kplr-coleman-late-05020092,0,7637605.story?page=1

While I am sure shock at seeing someone they know being charged for a horrific crime is common from most, it happens every day. Granted, there are those people who commit crimes and their friends say, "I can see this person doing it because they were abusive.".

I am of the opinion that few people saw this coming with Chris Coleman. They did not see him as abusive because, imo, he may not have been at all. There are people in this world that hide their demons well. I think he simply vanished his family without the pre-emptive strikes we are common to seeing in such cases.

His friends and family have to come to terms with the truth.

He may not have been an abusive husband or father, and I certainly agree that people did not see any of this coming. I hope that the friends and family are able to come to terms with the truth, I found the article interesting because Wise doesn't seem to be defending CC's innocence or expressing concern that the the real killer is still out there.

While I've mainly been concerned that the friends and family of the Coleman's that are also affiliated with the church would support blindly support CC, I'm now wondering if that will be the case. Many of the people that loved CC loved Sheri, Garret and Gavin as well, it makes sense that they would want to know the truth regardless of what that truth implies. Wise is not just a friend of the family, he works for JM. He's evidently comfortable voicing his opinions, which implies JM is not pressuring her employees not to talk to the media.

Analytical had asked if we had any suspicions as to which of CC's family would be here with us. If they are here it can't be all about defending CC, because I would think that they would be lurking. Why come here if you aren't somewhat interested in different points of view regarding the case. I didn't see anyone answer Analytical, so I'm wondering if Analytical has any insights into who it might be? What do you think Analytical?

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Thanks. It seemed he did it stealth style. Maybe Sheri was able to scream once before she died. He could have even already killed the children by then so they couldn't come to her aide.

Such a sad case.

imo

If Sheri and CC had been fighting a lot lately they might not have been as alarmed.

 

[analytical]

Analytical had asked if we had any suspicions as to which of CC's family would be here with us. If they are here it can't be all about defending CC, because I would think that they would be lurking. Why come here if you aren't somewhat interested in different points of view regarding the case. I didn't see anyone answer Analytical, so I'm wondering if Analytical has any insights into who it might be? What do you think Analytical?

Your understanding is incorrect. "Who Knew" said she thought they might be reading here. I merely asked who she might be referring to.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Your understanding is incorrect. "Who Knew" said she thought they might be reading here. I merely asked who she might be referring to.

Thanks! I was just wondering if you had any guesses on which family member and/or friend that could be if WhoKnew is correct?

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello All,

Per who of the Coleman family might be lurking or responding on the board...

The question was, message # 426 this thread:
>>Have any idea what members of CC's family? Mom, Dad .. brothers?<<

The answer was, message # 428 this thread:
>>Not 100% positive, but I think sibs of RC....... and a slight chance RC himself. Don't quote me - I wouldn't swear to it. Just things I've picked up on this board and in outside conversations.<<

 

[chestergal]

Per KTVI reporter on Nancy Grace (repeat tonight)

In living room there is a "bad word" (on the wall) and below that bad word is something like "Punished" on the same wall.


would it be Bi*ch Punished?
or Punished?
or ?????
(I can think of several but they all related to him being angry and resentful at Sheri)



"I told you so" (written in large dripping spray paint letters on the way up the stairs to the bedrooms)

 

[pres101]

It is my understanding that RC has told his flock not to believe what they hear in the media or anywhere else. They just need to listen to and believe him.

Also, the sermons on Grace Church's web site are not reflecting anything since the happenings of 5/5/09.

 

[pres101]

Per KTVI reporter on Nancy Grace (repeat tonight)

In living room there is a "bad word" (on the wall) and below that bad word is something like "Punished" on the same wall.


would it be Bi*ch Punished?
or Punished?
or ?????
(I can think of several but they all related to him being angry and resentful at Sheri)



"I told you so" (written in large dripping spray paint letters on the way up the stairs to the bedrooms)

It has been reported that the word Shedevil is in there somewhere too. A reference to JM, I am pretty sure.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello Pres101

The following is extremely scary.

It is my understanding that RC has told his flock not to believe what they hear in the media or anywhere else. They just need to listen to and believe him.

Also, the sermons on Grace Church's web site are not reflecting anything since the happenings of 5/5/09.

 

[chestergal]

Forensics should be able to tell when the walls were spray painted due how dry (cured) or tacky the spray paint might have been. If it was dripping down the walls (per the reporter) then the ends of the drips might have still been tacky to some degree.

Maybe he did not spray paint the walls until just before he left at 5:42am.
Also the spray paint on the surgical glove may have still been tacky if he pulled the glove off where the fingers on the glove would be inside out. The glove may have been inside a bag (I heard that the evidence they found on I-255 was inside a bag. - how true that is I don't know but it just one of those rumors floating around Chester)

 

[Carrington]

There was new insight into the Columbia, Illinois, triple murder case, Wednesday, from someone who used to work with accused killer, Chris Coleman, 32; someone who is now covering the story as a photo journalist.
http://www.kplr11.com/news/kplr-coleman-late-05020092,0,7637605.story?page=1

I'm going by the word USED to work with. Meaning he no longer works for JMM.
IMO

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello Chestergal,

OH MY GOSH -- OH MY GOSH! YES! The following about the tackiness of the paint etc. is SO IMPORTANT! I wish I had thought of it But YOU did and YES! You go girl!

Forensics should be able to tell when the walls were spray painted due how dry (cured) or tacky the spray paint might have been. If it was dripping down the walls (per the reporter) then the ends of the drips might have still been tacky to some degree.

Maybe he did not spray paint the walls until just before he left at 5:42am.
Also the spray paint on the surgical glove may have still been tacky if he pulled the glove off where the fingers on the glove would be inside out. The glove may have been inside a bag (I heard that the evidence they found on I-255 was inside a bag. - how true that is I don't know but it just one of those rumors floating around Chester)

 

[analytical]

Meyer was targeted by the threats as well. Surely this will be revealed at the trail.

It's going to be a doozy .. all these twists and turns.

 

[chestergal]

Hello Chestergal,

OH MY GOSH -- OH MY GOSH! YES! The following about the tackiness of the paint etc. is SO IMPORTANT! I wish I had thought of it But YOU did and YES! You go girl!

what I got from it was that the words on the walls were spray painted over and over thus causing heavy dripping of the paint because the walls could not absorb the spray paint.

or he spray painted standing very close to the walls with the can tip close to the wall.

I also wonder if there was a chemical reaction from the spray paint on the rubber gloves. I would guess that the index finger that was used to hold down the spray tip was heavily covered in spray paint and I wonder if maybe the glove finger tip did not rip from being stuck to the spray tip on the can or from a chemical reaction between the two.

The gal on NG said MCS also went into Rural King in Waterloo to find out about spray paint. (which they carry it).

Another rumor I heard locally was that they found a receipt for items used during the crime. (where they found it and what exactly was on that receipt I don't know)

 

[DairyGirl]

Meyer was targeted by the threats as well. Surely this will be revealed at the trail.

It's going to be a doozy .. all these twists and turns.

How do you know JM was targeted by threats too? I don't recall seeing that, only implied that CC was due to his association with JM.

 

[analytical]

How do you know JM was targeted by threats too? I don't recall seeing that, only implied that CC was due to his association with JM.

rumor mill aka grapevine ..

 

[Kimster]

It is my understanding that RC has told his flock not to believe what they hear in the media or anywhere else. They just need to listen to and believe him.

Also, the sermons on Grace Church's web site are not reflecting anything since the happenings of 5/5/09.

Boy, I sure hope that report is wrong! Our pastor always tells us to search the truth on our own, that he is also a man and although he does his best to teach us what the Bible says, he is not perfect. Even the Bible says to search scripture on our own!!! I guess I need to listen to at least one of his online sermons and determine for myself what is going on over there. I just am afraid of what I might hear!

 

[kiki the parrot]

"The Sociopath Next Door" describes well the phenomenon of a so-called (physically) "non-abusive" person who otherwise manages to fool his friends, co-workers and neighbors and avoid jail. After 25 years of treating trauma survivors, Clout learned that getting hit is actually one of the more bearable forms of abuse... and IMO CC was likely the Sociopath Next Door.

An Interview with Martha Stout

How do you spot a sociopath?...

More at link

*OH DR STOUT WHERE WAS YOUR BOOK WHEN I NEEDED IT (LOL)
arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Meyer was targeted by the threats as well. Surely this will be revealed at the trail.

It's going to be a doozy .. all these twists and turns.

I find this one difficult to believe for a number of reasons. JM showed up at the crime scene knowing about the murders and the threats...without a security team with her evidently. (This would be something a reporter would certainly mention if they were there with her.) If she thought for a second they were after her, too...I honestly do not think she would have gone at all. For all she would know at that point (unless she had reason to suspect Chris for the murders which, imo, she did) was that the person sending the threats could have been there to target her.

LE has never mentioned or insinuated there were other threats going to JM which could play a role in these murders. If they knew, they would have put her in immediate protective custody instead of her standing around consoling the neighbors while Chris was in the hospital.