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Definitely NOT playing outside in just a diaper..like I said, it's been ungodly hot here and I'd be running around naked if I could get away with it.

I reported that there appears to be little supervision, the baby is playing in the parking lot and the parents are laughing about it. I don't care if they play outside....we have a big, grassy lot behind our complex and lots of kids play out here.

I'm just concerned that their parents/guardians don't seem concerned that these kids are playing outside, all hours of the night, while the guardians seem to be impaired (my opinion), and the visitors seem to be getting more attention than these kids are.

We'll just let CPS or DHS or whoever deal with it. I've made 2 phone calls so hopefully it's at least noted.

You did the right thing, M. :seeya:
 
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Definitely NOT playing outside in just a diaper..like I said, it's been ungodly hot here and I'd be running around naked if I could get away with it.

I reported that there appears to be little supervision, the baby is playing in the parking lot and the parents are laughing about it. I don't care if they play outside....we have a big, grassy lot behind our complex and lots of kids play out here.

I'm just concerned that their parents/guardians don't seem concerned that these kids are playing outside, all hours of the night, while the guardians seem to be impaired (my opinion), and the visitors seem to be getting more attention than these kids are.

We'll just let CPS or DHS or whoever deal with it. I've made 2 phone calls so hopefully it's at least noted.

Oh it's noted! Impaired parents are never good parents.
Every call is logged and stored. You did great! If only everyone cared enough to pick up the phone when they suspected a child was in danger.

If the same thing happens tomorrow, report again. The heavy traffic is also troublesome. For all you know they could be operating a meth lab in that apartment!
 
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IMO it's more important to call and allow them to do their job and investigate. It's up to them to determine if its neglect, not the person reporting suspected neglect and drug dealing.

You're right Linda. And I've always regretted not reporting what I saw with that little boy who lived across from us. Who locks their 4 year old out of the house with nowhere to go? What babysitter drops a kid off in the front yard without an adult to look after them? I often wonder what became of that little boy.


ETA: I used to be able to get him to sit out on the front steps with me and eat cookies, or whatever I had. But he would never come inside. I felt so sorry for him.
 
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IMO it's more important to call and allow them to do their job and investigate. It's up to them to determine if its neglect, not the person reporting suspected neglect and drug dealing.

Thank you. I'm going to call and I'm going to go to bed. I'm starting to feel like an a** for bringing this up at all.
 
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You're right Linda. And I've always regretted not reporting what I saw with that little boy who lived across from us. Who locks their 4 year old out of the house with nowhere to go? What babysitter drops a kid off in the front yard without an adult to look after them? I often wonder what became of that little boy.

I have regrets too. I also didn't know what to do when I was young and witnessed severe physical abuse. It haunts me because like you, I have no idea whatever happened.
 
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Thank you. I'm going to call and I'm going to go to bed. I'm starting to feel like an a** for bringing this up at all.

Never regret caring about the well being of a child. You did the right thing.

If you did nothing... And Sunday night that baby is mowed down on the parking lot, you would never forgive yourself!!!!
 
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Thank you. I'm going to call and I'm going to go to bed. I'm starting to feel like an a** for bringing this up at all.

Why would you feel like that m? You are doing the right thing! I know drug houses, I know what you mean about the in and out traffic, these children are at risk if that is what is going on. Let the proper people investigate, but push and make sure someone takes you seriously. You are a GOOD PERSON for caring enough to get involved. I support you.
 
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Sulamith it sounds like you maybe grew up in the same era as I did. I was a child of the 60"s (actually born in 1960), and things were different. I remember running around outside from morning until dark. And my parents had no worries about me. But my parents always knew where I was, and when I'd be home. They never left us alone or unsupervised when we were small. From what m is saying, this sounds like it could possibly be a home that is not good for the children. :( If drugs are involved at all, it's never a good thing for the children.

I was born in 1956. I remember riding my bike (without a helmet!) to my friend's house in Tucson. On Halloween, my friends and I Trick or Treated until 10:00 pm, not a parent in site! None of this lame Trunk or Treat for us! When I was in the 6th grade and we moved to Texas, we used to wander off in the pasture to look at dead cows and old bottles. My girl friend and I were gone for hours. I think nowadays, people might think that my parents were negligent, but they were not. Of course, I know that drugs are not a good thing for kids. I just hope m knows what she might be getting herself into.
 
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Definitely NOT playing outside in just a diaper..like I said, it's been ungodly hot here and I'd be running around naked if I could get away with it.

I reported that there appears to be little supervision, the baby is playing in the parking lot and the parents are laughing about it. I don't care if they play outside....we have a big, grassy lot behind our complex and lots of kids play out here.

I'm just concerned that their parents/guardians don't seem concerned that these kids are playing outside, all hours of the night, while the guardians seem to be impaired (my opinion), and the visitors seem to be getting more attention than these kids are.

We'll just let CPS or DHS or whoever deal with it. I've made 2 phone calls so hopefully it's at least noted.

When I was an Army wife, years ago, living in Germany I reported a guy in my husband's unit for child abuse. His wife was young and clueless and she told us that her husband had thrown their puppy off of the table and broken it's leg. I remember her trying to feed her 8th month old daughter huge pieces of potato salad and that poor baby gagging on it. This gal would tell us how her husband would become angry when that baby could not eat food that was clearly not age appropriate. Anyway, she left the room and we were all talking about how horrible her husband was and the second I said, maybe somebody should report him and get him counseling, she walked back into the room and heard me. I was mortified. Anyway, I did report him and I heard he got some counseling. But guess what? Not one of those women supported me even though we were all talking about how horrible her husband was. I was pretty much ignored after that. I had to talk to the MPs and give my name and all the info I knew. So, IMO it is great if somebody wants to report a child abuse case, but do expect to give your name and details. Might be military law if different now. MOO
 
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I was born in 1956. I remember riding my bike (without a helmet!) to my friend's house in Tucson. On Halloween, my friends and I Trick or Treated until 10:00 pm, not a parent in site! None of this lame Trunk or Treat for us! When I was in the 6th grade and we moved to Texas, we used to wander off in the pasture to look at dead cows and old bottles. My girl friend and I were gone for hours. I think nowadays, people might think that my parents were negligent, but they were not. Of course, I know that drugs are not a good thing for kids. I just hope m knows what she might be getting herself into.

I hope m knows that I (along with others from what I've read) support her. Inebriated parents and kids in diapers seldom turns out well. How many of those cases have we read right here on WS?

Love you m. Like I said before, the fact that you care enough and feel something is wrong is enough. Follow your instincts.
 
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My girlfriends baby looked just like Mr. Magoo when she was born!

Didn't know if the baby would be a boy or a girl.

When his head was born and looked like Mr. Potato Head, my mind went to fervently hoping it wasn't a girl.

When all of him was born, my thought was, "Please never let there be a war." The draft was still in force at that time :o)
 
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I need to vent, I hope I don't catch any flack for this. I just called the non-emergency police line on my neighbors. I live in an apartment complex and it's always pretty quiet here. I live on the first floor and sit outside on my patio a lot when the evenings are nice. Let me just say that I'm NOT a parent, so be gentle with me. I really hope I don't sound judgemental. And I'm sorry for the long post!

These people moved in a few weeks ago, I don't even know who all is living there because there are always people coming and going. There is at least one little one, maybe close to 2 yrs? Anyway, the man and woman are always sitting outside, and the little boy runs around in just his diaper. He's adorable! Anyway, they don't pay attention to him. He runs ALL over the place, including out in the parking lot. I don't know how many times I've seen the dad finally get up and chase after him. The mom just sits in her chair and laughs. I'm a tad naive, but I'm not stupid. The dad can barely walk a straight line, there are people coming over ALL hours of the night (i'm an insomniac and go outside to smoke during the night) and they only stay for a few minutes, there's a lot of arguing between the adults, etc. I could go on and on. I've seen this baby running around at 2am :(

Anyway, tonight. I was sitting outside. There are 4 adults over there on their patio, and 3 kids...the baby in his diaper and 2 young girls (under 5 I'm guessing). They're playing IN THE PARKING LOT, and a car comes flying through. Thank goodness for the speed bump or this car would've hit at least one of the kids. The adults started laughing and I heard the "dad" say to one of the others "you go get him this time. He doesn't listen to me." Seriously?? I actually went over there (i'm in my pjs with no bra even lol) and asked if they needed a babysitter for the night. I said that clearly nobody wanted to watch the kids and they were going to get hurt with no supervision. Only one adult made eye contact with me and he just said "they're fine. Go home and don't worry about it."

They've gone inside since but I'm totally worried sick about these babies. The dispatcher said they'll check it out but I doubt they will.


Be careful! Since you went to their house and told them that nobody wanted to watch their kids and that they had no supervision but you would babysit them, IMO if CPS does pay them a visit that family will know it was you that called in the report. If they are impaired, as you stated, if I were you, I would watch my back. Druggies are nothing to mess around with. This scares me!
 
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Out playing in a diaper will not be the reason. Many parents let their kids run around in just a diaper; it's the lack of supervision that is harmful.

Google your state CPS offices and call them. They have to check out the report and do a welfare check within twenty four hours.

i agree. heck, i let mine run outside in a diaper once in awhile during the summer but we also have a fenced in backyard and i'm watching closely. but the lack of supervision and suspected drug abuse is what would bring CPS out. In the state I live, cps must check on any report of abuse within 24 hours, but reports of neglect, based on how serious they are ranked by the supervisory staff can have a response time of immediately, 24 hours, or within 3 days, sometimes even 5. It's insane. Sometimes, calls that fall under the "neglect" category, were just kept on file but never responded too because the caller didn't provide enough info or it wasn't deemed as "serious." these calls were all documented and kept on file, so if for some reason you don't get a response, keep calling and eventually CPS will go out (there is so much wrong with our child welfare system I won't even get into it, but its 90% of the reason i left my job). Either way, I'm glad you called, i would have done the same thing if I suspected drug abuse
 
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Good morning all! :seeya:


♪♫ today is my birthday... ♪♫
 
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I hope you have the fizziest, most festive birthday in the prettiest city in California!
 
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Good morning all! :seeya:


♪♫ today is my birthday... ♪♫

:drumroll: :cheer::cheer::party::partyguy::bdsong:
 
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How did your parents deal with you and food that you did not like?

gcharlie, I don't have this problem so much with mine, but I remember my doctor telling me it's ok if kids don't eat at the time you want them to or even if they miss a meal...for example, if they won't eat the dinner you cooked, it's ok if they don't eat...and then eventually they'll hungry, and then they'll probably eat at least a few bites of whatever you cooked b/c they'll be hungry....that way at least they can taste it. After they take a few bites, then you can give them their other food that they want.

However, I don't see how that'll work with older kids since they have the ability to get snacks and stuff, thus filling up on junk whenever they get hungry. IIRC, your kid is older now?
 
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Thanks Tuba and Lambchop!!! :seeya:

Question - was it this thread that someone was looking to move to California?? We just got an email (thru Craigslist) for our room for rent - and it "sounds" like the lady who was looking to move here!! I'm just wondering IF it IS that person!!! Think I'll go look in the last few pages - pretty sure it was this thread...
 
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Good morning all! :seeya:


♪♫ today is my birthday... ♪♫

Happy birthday Niner! :party: :bdsong:
 
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