SIDEBAR #18- Arias/Alexander forum

[YESorNO]

Mornin sweeheart! I forgot to take my cramp meds last night, and woke up at 3 am in total pain. I'll not make that mistake again! :floorlaugh:

Morning, Tulessa :seeya:
I tolddddddddddd you- never forget those pills or you will regret it :facepalm:
Now I really have to go :seeya:
(signed,
The Queen :floorlaugh

 

[Tulessa]

Morning, Tulessa :seeya:
I tolddddddddddd you- never forget those pills or you will regret it :facepalm:
Now I really have to go :seeya:
(signed,
The Queen :floorlaugh

Poofing queen! :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

My mom said that she was "knocked out" too when her first three were born. I had accepted that at face value for years and years and just recently asked my dad about it. I couldn't figure out how the baby would be born if the woman was under general anesthesia; my dad thinks perhaps my mom meant an epidural? My mother is no longer here to ask, so Linda, if your mom is still alive, please ask her what she means when she says that she was knocked out.

I only have one child, but I was actually looking forward to childbirth. Ever since I was a teen, people had made comments about my hips which seemed to be geared towards childbearing. My mother's labors, from what she told us, moved very quickly once her water was broken. She also said that her labor pains were nothing compared to her menstrual cramps. I used to have wicked cramps, to the point where I would pass out even though I have a very high threshold for pain. So with all of these bits and pieces of information, I looked forward to natural childbirth.

When my time finally came, it worked out much differently than I planned. A wide birth canal means nothing if the cervix won't dilate, which is what happened to me. I started labor around 4 am and my water broke about 7 hours later. I arrived at the clinic around 2 and while contractions were regular, they did not feel very strong, at least not in comparison to menstrual cramps. I had not dilated at all and was started on pitocin after a few hours at the clinic. Within an hour, I started to hemorrhage so the pitocin was stopped and preparations were made for a c-section.

The anesthesiologist was very heavy handed with the general anesthesia so that while my son was born at 11 pm on a Sunday night, the first time I remember seeing him was on Tuesday night. I have no memories of Monday; I do know I asked that my son be brought to me when I first came out of anesthesia, but there is no recall whatsoever of having seen him. On Tuesday night, I heard a baby crying and walked towards the sound with my IV pole and saw this tiny baby in an isolette. The clinic was basically empty, so I realized that this infant had to be my son. I remember looking at him, touching is tiny hands and stroking his head and being in total awe at the realization that this was the child that John and I had made.

On Wednesday morning my son was brought into my room to stay with me so that I could begin to take care of him and nurse him. My milk had come in full and my body was more than ready for him to nurse.

Yep, I asked her again just to be positive, even though I've heard the story like a zillion times. She was out and she has no idea what she was given. Zero recollection until she awoke and handed a baby. She also had zero stretch marks and gained a grand total of 20 pounds.

I adopted & gained 35 pounds...

 

[Tiger09]

Just ordered the Shana Hogan book off amazon. On good reads, the JVM book has better reviews. I'm thinking read the Shana Hogan book then get the other one? Has anyone gotten either one of these?

 

[mka237]

Finished reading Shanna Hogan's book "Picture Perfect" last night on kindle -- thinking she had the inside track on the case, I thought I would learn something new -- very disappointed -- anyone of us on WS who has followed the case closely (and has writing experience, of course) could have written this book, or one better. I guess for someone who knows little or nothing about the case, the book would be informative -- but I learned absolutely nothing new about the crime while reading the book -- absolutely nothing I have not seen or heard here or someplace else -- glad I preordered and only wasted $7.99 --

PS - she does describe Tanisha Sorenson as a mother of four children -- are they her husband's children? Anyone know?

 

[Zuri]

Finished reading Shanna Hogan's book "Picture Perfect" last night on kindle -- thinking she had the inside track on the case, I thought I would learn something new -- very disappointed -- anyone of us on WS who has followed the case closely (and has writing experience, of course) could have written this book, or one better. I guess for someone who knows little or nothing about the case, the book would be informative -- but I learned absolutely nothing new about the crime while reading the book -- absolutely nothing I have not seen or heard here or someplace else -- glad I preordered and only wasted $7.99 --

PS - she does describe Tanisha Sorenson as a mother of four children -- are they her husband's children? Anyone know?

I am so glad you gave us this review. I won't get the book then. Very disappointed. Shanna appeared on some of the shows done about this case. I was under the impression she had unfettered access to all the people surrounding this case.

I think you are correct about Tanisha. I think she is a step mom to Harold's children. She looks like she would be a cool mom anyway. :seeya:

Thanks again for the review and saving me $18!

 

[daisymae]

I thoroughly enjoyed reading the news a monster was dead. I have no room left for compassion for those horrible monsters, I'm too busy weeping for all the victims. Victims are the ones I reserve my empathy for, and I'll never apologize for it.

"Luck of the draw"? Ummm no. I believe in free will.

"Ungodly crime"? That would depend on which god you're talking about. The one I'm most familiar with committed more crimes against humanity than any human could in a lifetime. IMO

Thanks to all of you coming to my rescue from that weird person of whom we've never seen here, and probably won't again.

My post certainly did not imply I was ecstatic and thrilled because Castro hung himself, but rather he took the easy way out without paying to society what was due for committing his crimes. I feel no joy he is gone, nor do I feel hatred and rage. I am not jumping up and down or doing somersaults over him. Simply put Castro is not worthy of my energy to display all of the emotions and actions I was accused of.

I have no sympathy and pity for him, for he chose his actions, and even if born to commit crimes, he could have made choices to benefit our society rather than to choose the route he chose. He all by himself is responsible for his actions.

Thank you my friends for making me feel special here! We're a great bunch and so special to each other. :rockon:

 

[Tulessa]

I'm so thankful I didn't get a time out. Sorry mods.

 

[gcharlie]

We finally have a sunny day here, after a number of days that were either rainy or humid.

All that rain means the grass has grown, so I guess I need to get off my butt and go mow the lawn.

:takeoff:

 

[Kensie]

And how did she tear the umbilical cord with her own hands, then go outside to have a cigarette??!!

This is so disturbing, I don't even know what to say! This is a grown woman, she's in her late 20's. UGH.

It is beyond disturbing. That lowlife maniac needs to be put down.
I lost my lunch reading about it. It is totally beyond comprehension.

 

[Kensie]

Actually M, it would be a good idea. IIRC, the OBs like to know if there were any complications as part of a family history if you will. I totally get moms not wanting to talk about stuff, however, some things are important. Wouldn't hurt to broach the subject whenever you think the time is right. Family histories of breast, cervical, uterine, ovarian cancer are important as well. The more you know, the better you can make informed decisions. Jmv

M, Zuri is right. In my family, we never talked about stuff like that either.
After my 1st born was born, I found out that I gained the same amount of
weight as my mother did with me (40 pounds but lost it all by 5 weeks),
had toxemia (Sp???) like my mother did and we both had unplanned natural child births. It is weird how genetics works. When my son was born, I had an epidural and after he was born, I said to his dad, this was nothing compared to my daugher. My hair and makeup were not even messed up.
In my case I gained a lot of weight but lost it all quickly.

 

[Tulessa]

Leaving Monday for 7 nights, in a beautiful cabin in the Smoky's. I can't wait!

 

[Kensie]

Well back to work, blah.

have a nice afternoon.

 

[Nore]

Unbelievable! What a coward. He would have had it better in prison than the 3 young ladies locked up in his rooms. Tough guy? COWARD Pass the kleenex.

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daisymae, yes he deserved to go through years of prison, years of being alone but look at it this way~he saved the State of Ohio a lot of money keeping his sorry A*z going. I'm waiting to see who will bury him. The money they found stashed in the house (girls refused it) went to the State. They used it to raze his house and two drug houses next to it. They are going to make a park there for the children. :seeya:

 

[Nore]

M, Zuri is right. In my family, we never talked about stuff like that either.
After my 1st born was born, I found out that I gained the same amount of
weight as my mother did with me (40 pounds but lost it all by 5 weeks),
had toxemia (Sp???) like my mother did and we both had unplanned natural child births. It is weird how genetics works. When my son was born, I had an epidural and after he was born, I said to his dad, this was nothing compared to my daugher. My hair and makeup were not even messed up.
In my case I gained a lot of weight but lost it all quickly.

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Kensie, my mom labored 32 hrs. with me, 11 with my brother. Doctor told me he had never seen such a small pelvic area as mine. Afterbirth broke away from my uterus, my baby girl died. My granddaughter a wisp of a thing wouldnt dialate more than 7. after about 29 hrs. he did a c section. Baby 8lbs.12 1/2 oz 23 "..she was sore from the kicking. Thank God she got the bikini cut, I didnt..I lost all the weight, they wanted me to keep some. They should see me now.:floorlaugh:

 

[Mollyandme]

You are truly a wonderful mother Nore, if you remember it that fondly after what you went through. My C-section was because he wasn't withstanding the labor well. His heartrate kept dropping every time I had a contraction.
When he was born he was blue, and I was terrified until the doctor told me he was going to be okay. He was only 6 lbs 1 oz when he was born. I called him my little peanut LoL.

ETA: I had Placenta Previa with my first. I was lucky that it corrected early in the pregnancy or I would have been in bed for weeks. It's very dangerous for mom and baby. Hmmmm, maybe the weeks in bed part wouldn't have been so bad though :floorlaugh:. God bless Nore. I'm sorry you went through the pain of losing a child. :hug:

Hey ladies, i had a c-section with my second. My first was easy (thank god for epidural) but my second, my water broke but the contractions weren't coming. i was only 2 cm's dialated and my fluid level dropped and wasn't replenishing. my son's heart rate went low so i had an emergency c-section. it was very difficult for me as I was totally expecting another easy delivery and my dr wasn't on call that night so I had someone I never met before. i think im pregnant again and i am very worried about placenta previa, etc. i am hoping for a vbac if I am pregnant again (home test has a faint positive line so I will call dr tmw for bloodwork) but I know there are also risks to this.

nore, god bless you, i am so sorry i cannot imagine the loss of a child

 

[Mollyandme]

Just get an epidural!

AMEN!!!!!!! i didn't feel a thing with my first and I could still move my legs, it was great. i sat there on my ipad the whole night until it was time to push. I give everyone who can do it without one tons of credit because that was painful before the magic epidural

 

[m1279]

Morning, gcharlie :seeya:
BBM My first son was born in 1970. Back then, they used ether to knock a women out for childbirth. I was "knocked-out", but not before my son's head was crowning. They also "tied my arms (somewhere- can't remember :facepalm and "tied" my legs to the stirrups" When I woke up, I got :sick: from the ether and threw-up and I asked what I had. The first time I saw him was when they held him up through a window (while I was still on the delivery table). He was crying and wore a big cloth diaper. I also remember having pain down there from the cut they made there (I think this was also "common"). They, also, didn't bring him to me unless it was for feedings. I stayed in the hospital for one week (also "common"). A different experience than women have now.

This sounds barbaric! :scared:

I'm loving everyone's childbirth stories. If I ever get pregnant I'm coming to y'all for support!

 

[aa9511]

Oh Yes I have a TV in the room, a pretty big flat screen on the wall. We bought a new bed and mattress when we bought out house 2 years ago and it is a pillow top and sooooo comfy and plush.

Hubby hogs the TV in the living room so I go to the bedroom. I work from home writing so i do my work in bed. Pajamas are my work clothes, lol.

Hubby and I watch Tv as we go to sleep. He like old westerns so I let him watch them and he conks out in about 10 minutes and then I put my show on. He tied the TV remote to his side of the bed (so i wouldn't take it and lose it) so I had to buy me one for me to use!:floorlaugh:

bbm

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Believe me, I know the feeling...you should see me when I can't find the remote!!

 

[m1279]

Nancy Grace is heartbreaking again tonight Baby boy found alive, wrapped in garbage bags, in a trash pile

Thank goodness he's alive and has a chance at a beautiful life.