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Completely off (dog) topic here, and I hope it's ok to ask- if Donovan is not doing the tweeting, is it known who is? Did Donovan get in trouble for the tweeting, and was her crime burning down a dental clinic? (I work in one, and have always wondered)

Some have said it's the Aunt doing it and others think it's another friend. It might be more than one person, too. Dunno. Personally, I do think it's the Aunt. She has issues. Donovan probably can't contact her anymore because of her probation. There is also a condition of her probation that she's not allowed to go to bars and she was filmed for an interview on Jodi once in a bar.

Yup, it was a dentist's office:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/westvalley/articles/2008/09/05/20080905gl-nwvarson0904-ONL.html
 
Waiting for the next court date 9/16/13. I hope they set dates and get this thing rolling!
 
Mollyandme, I see you down below. Some people here have been anxious to hear your test results if you so please to share! Someone asked if we are to be cyber aunts. :)
 
It's still hard for me to even talk about. Took me a very long time for the sound of planes flying over to fade back into the background like a ticking clock. .... If one is low or loud, I still feel panic.

i am the same way. i literally cannot get on an airplane without medication, and I fly all the time. My husband sky dives and it drives me crazy! He's an adrenaline junkie and after he went once, decided he needed to spend $3,000 on getting certified to jump on his own. I almost went through the roof!

when i was in kindergarten, a plane and a helicopter crashed on my elementary school in the middle of recess. the plane landed in the front of school, helicopter in the back. The PA senator Heinz (from the Heinz Ketchup) was killed as were two first graders. It was the most horrifying thing I have ever experienced. It looked like fireballs coming out of the sky. I was too young to fully process everything but I remember hearing a Big Bang, looking up at the sky, and then fire and gasoline falling everywhere. I cannot even imagine the horror of 9/11 for all those there. I have been to the memorial in Manhattan and we stopped at the flight 93 memorial on our way home from Ohio once. It is still so upsetting and I cannot watch any show about it, it makes me too upset.

my daughters due date was 9/11/11 and I was very upset about this ( i know that sounds petty but i couldn't help it). well, my daughter turns two on 9/16 so I won't be here to catch up on Jodi but I will check in later that night! hope we get to hear her shackles again!
 
Ooooh, Daisy, now you done gone and skeered her off.

Mollyandme, we'll be nice to you, promise we will.

Do tell, do tell.
 
I am embarrassed to ask: Am I the only one who has NOT read 50 Shades of Grey?

i haven't and won't read it. i have no interest in the genre. I'm more of a James Patterson fan. I love mystery books. i also love Jodi Picoult
 
This time of year is hard for me. The anniversary of my brother's death is on August 25, with his birthday next on September 7. 9/11 also happens to be my parent's wedding anniversary; like 70% of couples who lose a child, my parents divorced less than three years after my brother died. My mom has since passed away, but I still acknowledge their anniversary to my father as he took those vows for life.

Mollyandme, that experience you had in kindergarten had to be truly frightening. I've been watching some documentaries on 9/11 over the past few days and seeing them brings back the full range of emotions from that day. FDR's quote "A day which will live in infamy" is well suited to 9/11.
 
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Mollyandme, I see you down below. Some people here have been anxious to hear your test results if you so please to share! Someone asked if we are to be cyber aunts. :)

hey everyone!!! lol omg this is a hilarious story actually. so i think i had a faulty test batch because the line kept staying light rather than getting darker, so I made my husband take one (hahahahaha) and according to the test, he was pregnant too! I called Dr and he was cracking up, he said I prob saw what is called an "evaporation line" that some tests get, but because I still haven't gotten Aunt Flo, told me to test again in a week. He offered for me to come in for blood work but I really didn't feel like it. His concern was possible ectopic so he wants to see me if I don't get AF by this friday but once I told him the test brand I used and that my husband is also pregnant he told me I could wait a week, did I mention his nurse told me I'm the favorite patient in the office? I guess that's what self-depricating humor gets you haha. I went out and bought new tests and will test again. I'm about 3 days late, I think I'll test again tomorrow. I'm kinda scared because I really don't think my body is ready for another baby right now. My dr assured me that my body wouldn't get pregnant again if I couldn't handle it, so we shall see. My son turns 9 months old tmw, and my daughter will be 2 on 9/16 so we shall see. I'm secretly hoping I'm not (i know that sounds horrible but I got PPD/Anxiety with my youngest and it finally went away a few months ago, plus he was an emergency c-section which I know I already bored you all to death with that story haha), but if I am I know it was meant to be and we will be fine. I might make my husband get clipped after this though!
 
This time of year is hard for me. The anniversary of my brother's death is on August 25, with his birthday next on September 7. 9/11 also happens to be my parent's wedding anniversary; like 70% of couples who lose a child, my parents divorced less than three years after my brother died. My mom has since passed away, but I still acknowledge their anniversary to my father as he took those vows for life.

Mollyandme, that experience you had in kindergarten had to be truly frightening. I've been watching some documentaries on 9/11 over the past few days and seeing them brings back the full range of emotions from that day. FDR's quote "A day which will live in infamy" is well suited to 9/11.

i am so sorry to hear about your brother. losing a sibling has to be one of the most difficult experiences. my brother just turns 26 and my sister is 22 and I constantly worry about them, especially my sister b/c she seems to think she's invincible.

i think thats great that you still acknowledge their anniversary to your dad. I can tell you from seeing my husband with my daughter, that you are the light of his life and I know it means so much to him that you still acknowledge their anniversary.

yes, it was frightening and I still get flashbacks when I smell smoke or gasoline, or get on a plane, but plane rides are the only time it's really bad. I always wonder if other kids I went to school with still have similar feelings come up from time to time. I imagine they do, but we just never really talk about it.
 
This time of year is hard for me. The anniversary of my brother's death is on August 25, with his birthday next on September 7. 9/11 also happens to be my parent's wedding anniversary; like 70% of couples who lose a child, my parents divorced less than three years after my brother died. My mom has since passed away, but I still acknowledge their anniversary to my father as he took those vows for life.

Mollyandme, that experience you had in kindergarten had to be truly frightening. I've been watching some documentaries on 9/11 over the past few days and seeing them brings back the full range of emotions from that day. FDR's quote "A day which will live in infamy" is well suited to 9/11.

I am so sorry for your losses. I truly know how you feel. In cases where a child has been lost to violent crime, the divorce rate is 96%. My parents were married for 30 years and got divorced. My mother was never the same after my brother's murder. You know those days are coming and you are filled with a secret dread that few would ever understand or ever know what those memories bring. My heart goes out to you...
 
I am so sorry for your losses. I truly know how you feel. In cases where a child has been lost to violent crime, the divorce rate is 96%. My parents were married for 30 years and got divorced. My mother was never the same after my brother's murder. You know those days are coming and you are filled with a secret dread that few would ever understand or ever know what those memories bring. My heart goes out to you...

Zuri, I think of you so often when I go to bed at night and "talk" to my brother. He died in a single vehicle accident which made his death traumatic in that it was unexpected and violent, however I realized very, very quickly on that his death was relatively simple to process. In my family, we viewed it as if he had worn out his guardian angel as he had some very close calls with death almost his whole life according to my mom. So for us, there weren't any questions of why, anger directed at someone else, guilt or worry that he had injured or killed others in the accident, etc. You, KCL and Travis's family have a much more complicated grieving process and I can't even begin to put myself in your shoes.

Like your mother, mine never got over losing her son. He was the oldest and the only son. She moved to Florida and we learned not to call her on the anniversary of my brother's death or his birthday. We sent cards for Mother's Day, but even on that day it was too painful for her to talk to us.

I worry so much for those families who lost children in Newtown and pray that they stay together as families.

Thank you for that piece of your heart...it is warm, loving and compassionate. My heart goes out to you as well.
 
i'm off to watch the obama speech. i'm extremely worried b/c my husband is in one of four units in our country that is specialized in a certain type of tactical warfare. their deployment to afghanistan which was scheduled for september was cancelled (thank god) but i'm very concerned about what will happen.

have a good night everyone! i will keep you updated on whether or not you are all gonna be online aunts :) god bless!
 
I am so sorry for your losses. I truly know how you feel. In cases where a child has been lost to violent crime, the divorce rate is 96%. My parents were married for 30 years and got divorced. My mother was never the same after my brother's murder. You know those days are coming and you are filled with a secret dread that few would ever understand or ever know what those memories bring. My heart goes out to you...

Zuri, i never knew your brother was murdered. i am so sorry. i feel like an idiot for not knowing this. i cannot even imagine. god bless you.

p.s-thanks for the friend request, it's the first one i have gotten on here!
 
Quiet here tonight. Almost as quiet as the Atlantic hurricane season this year.

By tomorrow, we will probably have the first hurricane of the season, Humberto. It is a strange system, coming off of Africa as a strong storm with an almost immediate center of circulation. It has been tracking almost due north and then may have a few days of a westward bearing along 25 degrees north before curving back to the east. Is this one of those hurricanes that will hit England?

Strange hurricane season.
 
i am the same way. i literally cannot get on an airplane without medication, and I fly all the time. My husband sky dives and it drives me crazy! He's an adrenaline junkie and after he went once, decided he needed to spend $3,000 on getting certified to jump on his own. I almost went through the roof!

when i was in kindergarten, a plane and a helicopter crashed on my elementary school in the middle of recess. the plane landed in the front of school, helicopter in the back. The PA senator Heinz (from the Heinz Ketchup) was killed as were two first graders. It was the most horrifying thing I have ever experienced. It looked like fireballs coming out of the sky. I was too young to fully process everything but I remember hearing a Big Bang, looking up at the sky, and then fire and gasoline falling everywhere. I cannot even imagine the horror of 9/11 for all those there. I have been to the memorial in Manhattan and we stopped at the flight 93 memorial on our way home from Ohio once. It is still so upsetting and I cannot watch any show about it, it makes me too upset.

my daughters due date was 9/11/11 and I was very upset about this ( i know that sounds petty but i couldn't help it). well, my daughter turns two on 9/16 so I won't be here to catch up on Jodi but I will check in later that night! hope we get to hear her shackles again!

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Hi Molly, I have never experienced what you did :please: but I cant watch any of it either. I get so upset. I cant watch any jodi films etc. either. I dont think I could take seeing someone play the part of Travis knowing what was to happen. I have seen much in my life, always sticks with me. I never forget it. I am so glad your daughter waited to be born. My dates are coming up and I,m a wreck already. Sept.21, Sept.28. my husband and sons birthdays. I will never forget 9/11/01 just as Dec.7, 1941..I still will never buy a Japanese or German car. On the 16th have a piece of cake for me.xox. gram nore :seeya:
 
Any dog ppl here? My year old German Shepherd has horrific separation anxiety. Every time I have to leave the house, which is usually once a week, he takes all kinds of things outside. He takes shoes, my daughter's Victoria Secret lingerie, remotes, DVDs outside. He also takes other random things. We have disciplined him like we have our older, smarter female shepherd. I don't know what to do. He is normally so well behaved. He is so big, I hate the thought of crating him for long hours. He has an extralegal large crate and he jus fits. Am I too soft?

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Hi Zuri. You may think crating him is rough but in doing it you are showing love for your puppy. A dog who gets into everything should not be left alone and loose. My granddaughter was telling me about this. Amy said they get so many puppies needing surgery because of swallowing a foreign object. They dont always "make it" depending on what they swallow. This happens so often. The Vet said the loving thing to do is crate when away, your Baby will be well when you come home. I know I never thought of it that way but its true.:beagle:
 
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hey everyone!!! lol omg this is a hilarious story actually. so i think i had a faulty test batch because the line kept staying light rather than getting darker, so I made my husband take one (hahahahaha) and according to the test, he was pregnant too! I called Dr and he was cracking up, he said I prob saw what is called an "evaporation line" that some tests get, but because I still haven't gotten Aunt Flo, told me to test again in a week. He offered for me to come in for blood work but I really didn't feel like it. His concern was possible ectopic so he wants to see me if I don't get AF by this friday but once I told him the test brand I used and that my husband is also pregnant he told me I could wait a week, did I mention his nurse told me I'm the favorite patient in the office? I guess that's what self-depricating humor gets you haha. I went out and bought new tests and will test again. I'm about 3 days late, I think I'll test again tomorrow. I'm kinda scared because I really don't think my body is ready for another baby right now. My dr assured me that my body wouldn't get pregnant again if I couldn't handle it, so we shall see. My son turns 9 months old tmw, and my daughter will be 2 on 9/16 so we shall see. I'm secretly hoping I'm not (i know that sounds horrible but I got PPD/Anxiety with my youngest and it finally went away a few months ago, plus he was an emergency c-section which I know I already bored you all to death with that story haha), but if I am I know it was meant to be and we will be fine. I might make my husband get clipped after this though!

I am the third of four children, and the third girl in a row. My sister was born March 1949, my other sister was born December 28, 1950; I was born December 9 1951; we are the same age for twenty days, and our brother was born on December 12, 1952, three days after I turned one year old, so I'm not sure about the body knowing if you're wore out and not ready.

Look at mama Duggar, she's like a broodmare. Of course when you bare children and hand them off to their sibling to raise, birthing might seem to be the easy part.

You'll do fine either way. If you are you are, you'll make the choice that is right for you, and if not breath a sigh of relief and get your man fixed.
 
Hi all. I've missed being here! :seeya:

Zuri - go to bed!
 
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Hi Zuri. You may think crating him is rough but in doing it you are showing love for your puppy. A dog who gets into everything should not be left alone and loose. My granddaughter was telling me about this. Amy said they get so many puppies needing surgery because of swallowing a foreign object. They dont always "make it" depending on what they swallow. This happens so often. The Vet said the loving thing to do is crate when away, your Baby will be well when you come home. I know I never thought of it that way but its true.:beagle:

We've crated our first Jack Russell from the time he was very young, and did the same with his nieces and nephew, and they are some of the best dogs we've ever had. I know some think a crate is being mean, but you're creating a safe space for them. I've always done mamadog training, and it seems to best and easiest way to go.
 
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