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Shanna Hogan was on The View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRynngKT8c#t=334 There is a lot of drama on the State page about it though, I get what Shanna was saying here however, and think the pitchfork crew really need to chill big time, going after supporters of Travis seems somewhat counterproductive, but then I wasn't too happy when they went after others either.
 
Shanna Hogan was on The View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRynngKT8c#t=334 There is a lot of drama on the State page about it though, I get what Shanna was saying here however, and think the pitchfork crew really need to chill big time, going after supporters of Travis seems somewhat counterproductive, but then I wasn't too happy when they went after others either.

I can't agree, she is making $$ off Travis but she calls him a '🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬' there was really no need for that.

Yes he wasn't perfect, no one is but he was far from what she called him.

If he was my brother I would be going crazy.

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She didn't call him a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 this is the quote ..

"When I was like, exploring his character, I really kinda had this feeling as... if he was my brother, he would've been the best brother in the world. If he was dating my best friend, he would've been a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬."

The comments I have seen by the admins on the State Page have been deliberately inflammatory and misleading. They're inciting a mob basically.

The family actually know Shanna, they know where she stands, and they know who she is.
 
I think one of the important issues regarding TA's behavior is where did it come from. JA was very sexually aggressive. She may have even suggested to TA in the past that she liked it when he talked dirty to him on the phone and liked having phone sex. At the time this was two adults engaging in what they wanted to do without breaking any laws other than recording it. While some feel TA's behavior was inappropriate let's really look at what happened. TA discouraged her from moving to Mesa and had she been a candidate for marriage he would have wanted to be around her more. TA was looking for a woman who was marriage material in his eyes and JA was not a candidate. I do not think they were ever an "item" in terms of them dating exclusively. While they were intimate it's not clear how often. I believe JA made up a number of encounters they had to make TA seem insensitive because she had to discredit him in any way she could.

If we were to discount any of her stories that there is no proof of what would we have left. She would have no defense, none. Her attorneys would have nothing to use at trial. Zip. So a defense had to be established if she were going to trial.

One incident that stands out in my mind about how TA felt around JA was when he asked his friend DF and DF's sister to go with them on the camping trip because he did not want to be alone with her.

JA took offense to TA having a life without her. She will go to her death thinking: "I still won." jmo
 
:goodpost: LambChop!!

And not to change the subject, but I just found this great website regarding Latvia and her history!

http://www.latvians.com/index.php?en/home.ssi

and the tab "Exile Experience" is what my parents went through.

Fleeing the Soviet return meant sailing down the Baltic, typically Danzig (Gdansk), or across to Sweden. Both voyages were fraught with danger: Soviets bombarded and sank refugee transports, and many of the small boats attempting to cross the Baltic fell victim to its storms.

My mother said that they saw a plane go over them when they were on the sea, but she guessed that they probably didn't have any more bombs, or otherwise they would have dropped them on their boat... Also, on the way to the coast, they had to get out of the train they were in and lie in ditches as a Soviet plane straffed their train. Scarey, if you ask me!! :scared:

anyway...

:seeya:
 
I think one of the important issues regarding TA's behavior is where did it come from. JA was very sexually aggressive. She may have even suggested to TA in the past that she liked it when he talked dirty to him on the phone and liked having phone sex. At the time this was two adults engaging in what they wanted to do without breaking any laws other than recording it. While some feel TA's behavior was inappropriate let's really look at what happened. TA discouraged her from moving to Mesa and had she been a candidate for marriage he would have wanted to be around her more. TA was looking for a woman who was marriage material in his eyes and JA was not a candidate. I do not think they were ever an "item" in terms of them dating exclusively. While they were intimate it's not clear how often. I believe JA made up a number of encounters they had to make TA seem insensitive because she had to discredit him in any way she could.

If we were to discount any of her stories that there is no proof of what would we have left. She would have no defense, none. Her attorneys would have nothing to use at trial. Zip. So a defense had to be established if she were going to trial.

One incident that stands out in my mind about how TA felt around JA was when he asked his friend DF and DF's sister to go with them on the camping trip because he did not want to be alone with her.

JA took offense to TA having a life without her. She will go to her death thinking: "I still won." jmo

Take a look at what Chris Hughes said in this article:

"Chris Hughes said that he and his wife had been manipulated by Arias, which is why they had a much more positive opinion of her character in early 2007 than they expressed at the trial.

Chris Hughes said Wednesday that the e-mails were something that Arias “orchestrated.”

“She came over and threw Travis under the bus,” he said. “We bought it, and we didn’t know she was manipulating us.”


http://www.azcentral.com/community/...-e-mail-exchange-revealed.html?nclick_check=1


I think you are correct about her supposed "exclusive" relationship with Travis (I now hate that word "exclusive" :floorlaugh: -among-st the many other inane words she uses).

Manipulating is the word for her- among-st others that I can't say here.
Words- sometimes I hate them. :floorlaugh:
 
The only good thing about the killer is that through her hatred for Travis, we all met.
So many of us are grieving for Princess, a wonderful person that I met here on JA threads.

God Bless you all dear friends.
 
The only good thing about the killer is that through her hatred for Travis, we all met.
So many of us are grieving for Princess, a wonderful person that I met here on JA threads.

God Bless you all dear friends.

Hear, hear, Kensie. :seeya:

Glad we all met.

Blessings to you, too.
 
How is everyone's weekend going ? Are we having fun yet ? :skip:

Alright, now this is seriously OT, but I got to really examining how I've been feeling lately, and had to admit that I haven't had the energy or the desire to even think about having fun for some time now. In fact, I have been feeling just terrible lately - aching muscles (some of which is due to a change in my work out, but still...) , back and joint pain and stiffness, and just feeling generally tired, depressed, and lousy. Gosh, one would think that how they feel should be so obvious to oneself :facepalm: yet for some reason it feels like I experienced some kind of revelation.

So I decided to do something about it and take a detox bath, and I can't believe I waited so long. I haven't felt this good in I don't know when, like a totally new person. :skip:

So I wanted to share this with my beloved friends here on the chance it might be of help to someone else. I'm sure most everyone is familiar with Epsom Salts baths. Well, that's basically what it is but I also added in Baking Soda, then added in some essential oils. Got a bottle of water to drink, started some relaxing music and lit a candle. Ahhhhhh....

For some specifics here is a link for anyone who might be interested. I'm sure there are other combinations one could do as well, but this one is simple and inexpensive. And it works. :seeya:

http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Detox-Bath
 
How is everyone's weekend going ? Are we having fun yet ? :skip:

Alright, now this is seriously OT, but I got to really examining how I've been feeling lately, and had to admit that I haven't had the energy or the desire to even think about having fun for some time now. In fact, I have been feeling just terrible lately - aching muscles (some of which is due to a change in my work out, but still...) , back and joint pain and stiffness, and just feeling generally tired, depressed, and lousy. Gosh, one would think that how they feel should be so obvious to oneself :facepalm: yet for some reason it feels like I experienced some kind of revelation.

So I decided to do something about it and take a detox bath, and I can't believe I waited so long. I haven't felt this good in I don't know when, like a totally new person. :skip:

So I wanted to share this with my beloved friends here on the chance it might be of help to someone else. I'm sure most everyone is familiar with Epsom Salts baths. Well, that's basically what it is but I also added in Baking Soda, then added in some essential oils. Got a bottle of water to drink, started some relaxing music and lit a candle. Ahhhhhh....

For some specifics here is a link for anyone who might be interested. I'm sure there are other combinations one could do as well, but this one is simple and inexpensive. And it works. :seeya:

http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Detox-Bath

Sorry that you have been out of sorts lately.
The bath sounds lovely and I'm bookmarking the page.
I just have to figure out how to get out of my "garden-tub"- I found it very hard to do (never mind getting into it :facepalm:). My body just ain't what it use to be. :floorlaugh:
Hope you're feeling better. :seeya:
 
FYI - Don't forget- on ID channel tonight:

9:00 PM
60 MIN.

Deadly Sins (Season 3)
Jodi Arias: Killer Sex Kitten
TV-14 CC

"Media outlets worldwide have been focused on this Mesa, Arizona case of a beautiful amateur photographer who falls for a successful businessman. The sins of wrath, lust, gluttony and pride, result in one of the most cold-blooded murders in recent memory."

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/tv-schedule.htm

Beautiful??? :snooty: (not anymore- killers are hugly, IMO). :facepalm:

"gluttony"- ????
 
FYI - Don't forget- on ID channel tonight:

9:00 PM
60 MIN.

Deadly Sins (Season 3)
Jodi Arias: Killer Sex Kitten
TV-14 CC

"Media outlets worldwide have been focused on this Mesa, Arizona case of a beautiful amateur photographer who falls for a successful businessman. The sins of wrath, lust, gluttony and pride, result in one of the most cold-blooded murders in recent memory."

Beautiful??? :snooty: (not anymore- killers are hugly, IMO). :facepalm:

"gluttony"- ????



It is football night. The hunk Brady is playing.

The Seahawks have beat the Saints.
 
FYI - Don't forget- on ID channel tonight:

9:00 PM
60 MIN.

Deadly Sins (Season 3)
Jodi Arias: Killer Sex Kitten
TV-14 CC

"Media outlets worldwide have been focused on this Mesa, Arizona case of a beautiful amateur photographer who falls for a successful businessman. The sins of wrath, lust, gluttony and pride, result in one of the most cold-blooded murders in recent memory."

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/tv-schedule.htm

Beautiful??? :snooty: (not anymore- killers are hugly, IMO). :facepalm:

"gluttony"- ????
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Hi YesorNo, nice looking yes, beautiful no. The hardness in her comes through in her face. She looks worse with each year that passes. People can grow old and wrinkle but goodness is still there. She never had it..:loveyou:

P.S. Beauty: I had a wonderful dream about my son last night.....:blowkiss:
 
It is football night. The hunk Brady is playing.

The Seahawks have beat the Saints.

But-But-
Don't you want to know all the "important" :facepalm: things about missy :jail: that she wants us to know??
(as if we don't know every little fart :facepalm: about her already)

Hunk Brady- how can you "see" him with all that equipment the players wear?

(I Googled him- he is definitely a hunk!!)

Enjoy.
 
Shanna Hogan was on The View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRynngKT8c#t=334 There is a lot of drama on the State page about it though, I get what Shanna was saying here however, and think the pitchfork crew really need to chill big time, going after supporters of Travis seems somewhat counterproductive, but then I wasn't too happy when they went after others either.

Hi Mrs. G, long time no see ! :seeya:
 
Shanna Hogan was on The View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRynngKT8c#t=334 There is a lot of drama on the State page about it though, I get what Shanna was saying here however, and think the pitchfork crew really need to chill big time, going after supporters of Travis seems somewhat counterproductive, but then I wasn't too happy when they went after others either.


The mob online behavior is hard to take. :facepalm: Thanks for posting what I've been disgusted at for months.

Nobody likes the fact that some people murder other people. Society has to deal with it somehow. Relief is one thing. Glee in the face of the ultimate outcome is just sickening, and the cheap, melodramatic, and sensationalist movie/TV productions do not help.

Glad to correspond with you again, Mrs. G. :seeya:
 
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