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I totally agree with Juan. If that sounds harsh to the defense lawyer, consider this. Why did she stab him 29 times? Why shoot him in the head? Why slit his throat? A murder is a murder. Period. This one especially heinous and cruel. I trust Juan will get more time to point out she is a liar, as are any defense witnesses.

I have a questions for the moderators. Under the Travis Alexander trial logo, you state this is a case of Arias being accused of this crime. Isn't it time to change the wording? She is no longer accused. She was CONVICTED, first degree murder, aggravated. Just wondering. It's all over but the crying.

BBM The killer :jail: won't be crying- she'll just adapt (like all cold-blooded creatures).
And I certainly won't be crying for her- I cried enough for Travis.

I wonder what kind of retrial this will be? It's too bad we won't be able to see it. I never saw a retrial before. Wonder how they will be able to shorten the trial. One good thing tho', we won't have to see Nurmi picking his nose anymore. :facepalm:
 
Sometimes we just need to remember WHAT the Rules of Life really are...

1.Never give yourself a haircut after three margaritas. :martini:

2.You need only two tools. WD-40 and duct tape.
If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40.
If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.

3.The five most essential words for a healthy, vital relationship are:
"I apologize" and "You are right." :angel:

4.Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.

5.When you make a mistake, make amends immediately.
It's easier to eat crow while it's still warm.

6.The best advice that your mother ever gave you was.
"Go! You might meet somebody!"

7. If he/she says that you are too good for him/her--believe them.

8. Learn to pick your battles; ask yourself, 'Will this matter one year from now?
How about one month? One week? One day?'

9. Never pass up an opportunity to pee. :facepalm:

10. If you woke up breathing, congratulations! You have another chance!

11. Living well really is the best revenge. Being miserable because of a bad or former relationship just might mean that the other person was right about you

12. Work is good, but it's not that important. :werk:



13. Be really nice to your friends. You never know when you are going to need them to empty your bedpan. :eek:
 
(just in case anyone had a hard weekend)

******************************************8
Gallagher opened the morning newspaper and was dumbfounded to read in the

obituary column that he had died. He quickly phoned his best friend, Finney.

"Did you see the paper?" asked Gallagher. "They say I died!!"

"Yes, I saw it!" replied Finney. "Where are ye callin' from?"
************************************************** ********************
An Irish priest is driving down to New York and gets stopped for speeding in

Connecticut. The state trooper smells alcohol on the priest's breath and then

sees an empty wine bottle on the floor of the car.

He says, "Sir, have you been drinking?"

"Just water," says the priest.

The trooper says, "Then why do I smell wine?"

The priest looks at the bottle and says, "Good Lord! He's done it again!"
************************************************** *************************
Walking into the bar, Mike said to Charlie the bartender, "Pour me a stiff one -

just had another fight with the little woman."

"Oh yeah?" said Charlie, "And how did this one end?"

"When it was over," Mike replied, "She came to me on her hands and knees."

"Really," said Charles, "Now that's a switch! What did she say?"

She said, "Come out from under the bed, you little chicken."
***************************************
The Fortune Teller...

In a dark and hazy room, peering into a crystal ball, the Mystic

delivered grave news: "There's no easy way to tell you this, so I'll just

be blunt. Prepare yourself to be a widow. Your husband will die a violent and

horrible death this year."

Visibly shaken, Laura stared at the woman's lined face, then at the

single flickering candle, then down at her hands. She took a few deep

breaths to compose herself - and to stop her mind racing. She simply had to

know.

She met the Fortune Teller's gaze, steadied her voice and asked, "Will I be

acquitted?"
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SOCIAL SECURITY SIGN-UP

After retiring, Kent went to the local office to apply for Social Security. The

clerk asked him for his driver's license to verify his age. He looked in his

pockets and realized he had left his wallet at home. He told the woman that

he was very sorry.

In lieu of his going home and coming back later, the clerk said, "Unbutton your

shirt." So he opened his shirt, revealing his curly silver hair. The clerk said,

"That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me," and she processed his

Social Security application.

When Kent got home, he excitedly told his wife about the experience at the

Social Security office. His wife replied. "You should have taken off the rest of

your clothes. From what I see, you might have gotten disability, too."
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The Older Couple

An older couple was lying in bed one night. The husband was falling asleep but

the wife was in a romantic mood and wanted to talk.

She said: "You use to hold my hand when we were courting." Wearily he

reached across, held her hand for a second and tried to get back to sleep.

A few moments later she said: "Then you used to kiss me."

Mildly irritated, he reached across, gave her a peck on the cheek and settled

down to sleep.

Thirty seconds later she said, "Then you use to bite my neck." Angrily, he

threw back the bed clothes and got out of bed.

"Where are you going?" she asked. He muttered from the bathroom door, "To

get my teeth!"
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Medical Exam

An elderly married couple scheduled their annual medical examination the same

day so they could travel together. After the husband's examination, the

doctor said to him, "You appear to be in good health. Do you have any medical

concerns that you would like discuss with me?"

"In fact, I do," said the man. "After I have sex with my wife for the first time,

I am usually hot and sweaty. And then, after I have sex with my wife the

second time, I am usually cold and chilly."

"This is very interesting," replied the doctor. "Let me do some research and

get back to you."

After examining the elderly wife, the doctor said to her, "Everything appears to be fine. Do you have any concerns you would like to discuss with me?"

The lady replied she had no questions nor concerns.

The doctor then asked, "Your husband had an unusual concern. He claims that

he is usually hot and sweaty after having sex the first time with you and then

cold and chilly after the second time. Do you know why?"

"Oh that old buzzard!", she replied. "That's because the first time is usually in

July and the second time is usually in December!"
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"Your food stamps will be stopped effective March 1992 because we received

notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if there is

a change in your circumstances."

--Department of Social Services, Greenville, South Carolina
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I SHALL SEEK AND FIND YOU...
I SHALL TAKE YOU TO BED AND CONTROL YOU...
I WILL MAKE YOU ACHE, SHAKE AND SWEAT UNTIL YOU
GRUNT AND GROAN...
I WILL MAKE YOU BEG FOR MERCY...
I WILL EXHAUST YOU TO THE POINT THAT YOU WILL BE
RELIEVED WHEN I LEAVE YOU....AND YOU WILL BE WEAK
FOR DAYS.
ALL MY LOVE,
THE FLU

(Get your mind out of the gutter)
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The personnel office received an email requesting a listing of the department

staff broken down by age and sex. The personnel office sent this reply -

"Attached is a list of our staff. We currently have no one broken down by age

and sex. However, we have a few alcoholics."
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An 80 year-old man went to his doctor's office to get a sperm count. The

doctor gave the man a jar and said, "Take this jar home and bring me back a

sample tomorrow." The next day the 80 year-old man reappeared at the

doctor's office and gave him the jar, which was as clean and empty as on the

previous day.

The doctor asked what happened and the man explained.

"Well, doc, it's like this: First I tried with my right hand, but, nothing. Then I

tried with my left hand, but still nothing. Then I asked my wife for help. She

tried with her right hand, with nothing. Then her left, but nothing. She even

tried with her mouth, first with the teeth in, then with the teeth out, and still

nothing. We even called up the lady next door and she tried with both hands

and her mouth too, but nothing."

The doctor exclaimed, "You asked your neighbor?!"

The old man replied, "Yep, but no matter what we tried we couldn"t get the

darn jar opened!"
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An elderly couple drove down a country road for several miles, not saying a

word. An earlier discussion had led to an argument and neither of them

wanted to concede their position. As they passed a barnyard of mules, goats,

and pigs, the wife asked sarcastically, "Relatives of yours?"

"Yep," the husband replied, "in-laws".
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A man said to his wife after many years of marriage "I don't know how you can

be so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time."

His wife responded, "Allow me to explain. God made me beautiful so you would

be attracted to me; God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you!
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A husband read an article to his wife about how many words women use a day

... 30,000 to a man's 15,000.

The wife replied, "The reason has to be because a woman has to say

everything twice.

The husband then turned to his wife and asked, "What?"
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:seeya:
 
Why is DH in the hospital?

Kidney stones, this is our third trip to the ER since Thanksgiving, but now they're getting bigger, and he's not going to be a happy camper in the morning when they shove (his exact word, I told him I didn't think that's a medical term) up his manparts.
I told him OH boo hoo climb up on a cold table, naked and spread your legs and have a pap smear ( all the while the dr. is telling you to relax) and then tell me about invasive.
 
Niner, I missed the race. :( How'd your cousin do?


I sure enjoyed the Olympics and look very much forward to the summer games in 2 years. Summer sports are more my thing! I went to two events at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996 and got to see Jackie Joyner-Kersee. It was all fascinating but they had so much activity on the field and we were kind of higher in the seats, we couldn't see well, but being there was amazing!
 
Kidney stones, this is our third trip to the ER since Thanksgiving, but now they're getting bigger, and he's not going to be a happy camper in the morning when they shove (his exact word, I told him I didn't think that's a medical term) up his manparts.
I told him OH boo hoo climb up on a cold table, naked and spread your legs and have a pap smear ( all the while the dr. is telling you to relax) and then tell me about invasive.

Hoping for a painless test for your hubby tomorrow, page bender!
 
Kidney stones, this is our third trip to the ER since Thanksgiving, but now they're getting bigger, and he's not going to be a happy camper in the morning when they shove (his exact word, I told him I didn't think that's a medical term) up his manparts.
I told him OH boo hoo climb up on a cold table, naked and spread your legs and have a pap smear ( all the while the dr. is telling you to relax) and then tell me about invasive.

I remember when I had bilateral kidney stones--painful. I was constantly told tl pity men and how treatment went for them~~NO sympathy on my part.

I got jabbed six times for my epidual. And well over 72 hours in labor to deliver twins they always considered would be delivered c-section.
 
Good morning all. Monday again.

Just was over at the Heather Elvis thread - just started following it on Friday - and two people have been charged with murder. What is it that people go around murdering others. I just don't get it.
 
Niner, I missed the race. :( How'd your cousin do?


I sure enjoyed the Olympics and look very much forward to the summer games in 2 years. Summer sports are more my thing! I went to two events at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996 and got to see Jackie Joyner-Kersee. It was all fascinating but they had so much activity on the field and we were kind of higher in the seats, we couldn't see well, but being there was amazing!

Hi daisymae :wave:
My cousin came in 14th... but Latvia 1 came in second, .09 behind the Russians!! :woot:


Hi everyone!! :seeya:
 
Hi daisymae :wave:
My cousin came in 14th... but Latvia 1 came in second, .09 behind the Russians!! :woot:


Hi everyone!! :seeya:

14th is pretty darn good. That is 14 out of all the sledders in the WORLD!
Congrats to your cousin, what an honor it must be just to even participate in something like the Olympics...your family must be very proud :)

Let him know a random girl in America was pulling hard for him :seeya:
 
Hi daisymae :wave:
My cousin came in 14th... but Latvia 1 came in second, .09 behind the Russians!! :woot:


Hi everyone!! :seeya:

:aktion:

Latvia 4 team bobsled:

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Kidney stones, this is our third trip to the ER since Thanksgiving, but now they're getting bigger, and he's not going to be a happy camper in the morning when they shove (his exact word, I told him I didn't think that's a medical term) up his manparts.
I told him OH boo hoo climb up on a cold table, naked and spread your legs and have a pap smear ( all the while the dr. is telling you to relax) and then tell me about invasive.

Ah- give him a break. Kidney stones really hurt- just like unmedicated childbirth.
I know the pain of both. I had/have them.

Had an operation when I was 30 yrs old for them - the stone was the size of a marble (no kidding- they showed me it after the operation :floorlaugh:).
Another stone(s) was/were "blasted" (don't remember what the technical name is for the blasting) years later- different kidney.

Now, I have some stones forming in the left kidney (where they blasted before).They showed up on a scan that I had for something else about 4 years ago. The MD told me they were small and not to worry. :scared: I felt them last month and I'm scared that they are growing/forming and I won't be able to pass them. :scared:

I think it's worse for a man- their "equipment" :blushing: is longer and it would take longer to pass them (that's if they can pass them). OUCH. :(
 
Ah- give him a break. Kidney stones really hurt- just like unmedicated childbirth.
I know the pain of both. I had/have them.

Had an operation when I was 30 yrs old for them - the stone was the size of a marble (no kidding- they showed me it after the operation :floorlaugh:).
Another stone(s) was/were "blasted" (don't remember what the technical name is for the blasting) years later- different kidney.

Now, I have some stones forming in the left kidney (where they blasted before).They showed up on a scan that I had for something else about 4 years ago. The MD told me they were small and not to worry. :scared: I felt them last month and I'm scared that they are growing/forming and I won't be able to pass them. :scared:

I think it's worse for a man- their "equipment" :blushing: is longer and it would take longer to pass them (that's if they can pass them). OUCH. :(

Ouch!! Wish there was an easy fix for you, YESorNO. I have also heard stones are much harder for men --- was one of the few times I ever saw my dad cry.

Board is acting very weird for me tonight. Post disappears before I finish and closes the page (multiple tries), letters end up in wrong order, very sloooow. Guess I have to read and not post tonight :-( Finally wrote this in notepad and copy/pasted here (if it doesn't kick me out again)
 
Good morning all. Monday again.

Just was over at the Heather Elvis thread - just started following it on Friday - and two people have been charged with murder. What is it that people go around murdering others. I just don't get it.

BBM Ohhhhhhhhhh- a question. :cheerful: :wink: :floorlaugh:

I :sleuth: and found all this interesting stuff (if anyone's interested):
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Why do people kill?
A Typology of Violent Offender
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(.."describes many, if not most types of homicide and most acts of violence. It describes most of the killers and most of the violent individuals...")

-Chronically Aggressive Individuals
-The Over-Controlled Hostility Type
-The Hurt and Resentful
-The Traumatized
-The Obsessive
-The Paranoid
-The Insane
-The Just Plain Bad & Angry

http://everydaypsychology.com/2008/07/why-do-people-kill-typology-of-violent.html#.UwvhXvldVSB

(I think the Killer :jail: is The Just Plain Bad & Angry type:
"A combination of most of the above (except for insane): angry, hostile, jealous, resentful, impotent, and disturbed individuals, who are socially isolated, socially inadequate, and who feel worthless
May be seeking attention
May be seeking revenge")
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Important Theories in Criminology: Why People Commit Crime

Rational choice theory: People generally act in their self-interest and make decisions to commit crime after weighing the potential risks (including getting caught and punished) against the rewards.

Social disorganization theory: A person’s physical and social environments are primarily responsible for the behavioral choices that person makes. In particular, a neighborhood that has fraying social structures is more likely to have high crime rates. Such a neighborhood may have poor schools, vacant and vandalized buildings, high unemployment, and a mix of commercial and residential property.

Strain theory: Most people have similar aspirations, but they don’t all have the same opportunities or abilities. When people fail to achieve society’s expectations through approved means such as hard work and delayed gratification, they may attempt to achieve success through crime.
Social learning theory: People develop motivation to commit crime and the skills to commit crime through the people they associate with.

Social control theory: Most people would commit crime if not for the controls that society places on individuals through institutions such as schools, workplaces, churches, and families.
Labeling theory: People in power decide what acts are crimes, and the act of labeling someone a criminal is what makes him a criminal. Once a person is labeled a criminal, society takes away his opportunities, which may ultimately lead to more criminal behavior.

Biology, genetics, and evolution: Poor diet, mental illness, bad brain chemistry, and even evolutionary rewards for aggressive criminal conduct have been proposed as explanations for crime.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/important-theories-in-criminology-why-people-commi.html

Murder Article: Why Men Murder

"Murder and the Map-
A man's chance of being murdered - or of murdering - varies greatly according to geography.

Murder and The Calendar-
During hot weather, as you might expect, more murders are committed... Police explain the warm-weather peak as resulting from anger induced by discomfort.

How They Do It-
..by far the largest number of murders are committed with four "standard' weapons: hand guns, cutting instruments, blunt instruments, and - surprisingly - bare hands. Hand guns are, of course commonly revolvers or automatics; cutting instruments range from razors to switchblade knives and cleavers. The blunt instrument is a tire iron, bat, poker...

Why They Do It-
"The reasons given for murder in a courtroom are probably seldom the real ones. The police, the prosecutor, even the court, elicit only the apparent causes. The murderer himself is the last person to ask for a motive. He wants only to save his neck, if necessary by distorting the truth...

F. Tennyson Jesse, in Murder and Its Motives, says the true murderer is a colossal egoist - he's sure he can kill and get away with it....

In The Mind of the Murderer, W. Lindesay Neustatter remarks, ". . . motive, without the whole background in which it is set, tells little of the criminal's psychology." He classifies murderers as the schizophrenic (with delusions of persecution), the hysteric, the mental defective, the paranoiac (victim of a systemized delusional insanity), the epileptic (with epileptic automatism and amnesia), the constitutionally unstable psychopath, and finally the chap who is simply depressed possibly due to low blood sugar (momentary malnutrition).

http://www.all-about-forensic-psychology.com/murder-article.html

Here's a good article about murder:

The Murderer Next Door:

"...Dr. David Buss, an evolutionary psychologist at The University of Texas at Austin and author of the just-published “The Murderer Next Door: Why the Mind is Designed to Kill” has conducted an unprecedented set of studies investigating the underlying motives and circumstances of murders, from those of serial killers to the perfectly friendly next-door neighbor who one day commits murder. He examined FBI files of more than 400,000 murders, conducted a highly detailed study of nearly 400 murders, and led, with his collaborator Joshua Duntley, the largest homicidal fantasy study ever conducted.

“Killing is fundamentally in our nature because over the eons of human evolution murder was so surprisingly beneficial in the intense game of reproductive competition,” Buss said. “Our minds have developed adaptations to kill, which is contrary to previous theories that murder is something outside of human nature—a pathology imposed from the distorting influences of culture, media images, poverty or child abuse.

“Though we may like to think that murderers are either pathological misfits or hardened criminals,” he added, “the vast majority of murders are committed by people who, until the day they kill, seem perfectly normal.”

http://www.utexas.edu/features/2005/murder/

9 People Who Literally Got Away With Murder:

-Casey Anthony Found Not Guilty in Murder of Her Daughter
-Vince Neil Killed His Best Friend
-Robert Blake Shot His Wife and Got Off
-Lizzy Borden Took An Axe... (You know the rest)
-Richard James Herrin, the “Yale Murder Case”
-Al Capone – Jailed for… Tax Evasion
-Don King aka Stompy
-William S. Burroughs – Played “William Tell” with Wife
-O.J. Simpson... Need We Say More?

http://www.oddee.com/item_98580.aspx

Why are we so fascinated with murder?

"We are fascinated because we wonder: would I have felt the same way, had the same impulse and would I have done the same thing? Would I have felt justifed? Would I have I have controlled myself? Was there nothing that could have stopped me or something that should have stopped him?

Sometimes, there is a very fine line between "normal" human passion and evil intent, between a loss of control and a desire to let loose...

Our fascination is driven by all of the many complexities that are to be found in the motive for murder. Even when we are certain that the intent is simply evil, there are still all of the degrees and forms of evil to be examined...

We are also fascinated by the investigation: Were the suspects many or was it someone acting alone? Were the clues subtle or obvious? Did the investigation require science or logic? Did the detectives rely on intuition or insight, acute powers of observation or just hard work? Was the perpetrator the usual, obvious suspect, or was it the person no one would ever suspect? When the investigation is over, we still have to ask: did they get the right guy?...

In real life, we also tend to focus acutely on whether or not it could happen to us. I am certain that no one is going to kill me for my fortune, but I am not so certain about my safety when I read about a senseless shooting of an innocent bystander or a burglary gone wrong that left the homeowner dead. We pay attention because we want to know if we are safe...

In the end, I think the fascination with murder is natural because there are so many different ways to judge each crime. We wonder about the victim, about the perpetrator, and about the circumstances. We are intrigued by the motive and the method and how they got away or how they got caught. We wonder who would be capable of the crime and whether they are “normal” like us or hopefully quite different..."

http://everydaypsychology.com/2011/05/why-are-we-so-fascinated-with-murder.html#.UwvqSPldVSB
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And that concludes our lecture in Murder for tonight.

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :giggle:

Whoever didn't attend the lecture will be :pillowfight:
and will receive an F for the course. :eek:

:silly:
 
homework:

500 word essay- double-spaced, 2" margins, on Why I will Not murder-
due tomorrow morning @ 9:00 AM sharp!

All people who do not hand in their paper will have to listen to The killer :jail:
sing O Holy Night for the rest of their lives :facepalm:


Jodi Arias Singing Behind Bars - YouTube

Signed: Professor YES/NO, Phd in funnies :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

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homework:

500 word essay- double-spaced, 2" margins, on Why I will Not murder-
due tomorrow morning @ 9:00 AM sharp!

All people who do not hand in their paper will have to listen to The killer :jail:
sing O Holy Night for the rest of their lives :facepalm:


Jodi Arias Singing Behind Bars - YouTube

Signed: Professor YES/NO, Phd in funnies :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

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Nooooooo.... too tired to write an essay :scared: I will have to become permanently deaf first, before the punishment takes effect
 
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