SIDEBAR #24- Arias/Alexander forum

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Along with Merc, where is Ricki, gcharlie , M and Molly?

Hope our friends are all okay.

Molly and my niece are due around the same time. July twenty second; I hope shes doing well with two kids under three? and another on it's way.

Sounds like how my family started out. I wish her a better life with her kids than what my parents gave to us. Too young, too many kids to soon. I can't fathom being twenty two and having four kids under five.

I was the third girl in a row; I don't have a middle name, I was the only one born bald, and when I did grow hair it was red.; we had our hair curled with bobby pins or strips of brown paper bag or cloth. It didn't help me at all; five minutes later my hair was back to fine and straight as a board. Then spoolies came out; which still didn't help.


I remember my first dress. All mine, not a hand me down. We went to downtown Oklahoma City (a big department store with an elevator (which started a life long uneasiness) for clothes because my oldest sister was starting school.

On the way downtown our car died, and my father got our checked the engine, came back put his head in the window and asked who'd put dirt in the gas tank. The four of us sat silent the backseat, remembering playing gas station the day before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HTuioUE2wBE
 
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This is undoubtedly accomplished by the combination of a large electromagnet under the carpet, and a horseshoe Super-glued to the Corgi's right side.

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I could swear I saw gcharlie on a thread recently....maybe ER or Julie Schenecker?[/QUOTE]

-------Hi Nymeria, I have seen gcharlie also. Not Merci, I'm a bit concerned as she has health problems. She has not posted at all. I hope she is ok..:seeya:
 
I liked Shana's book but with one very large proviso. The long, long trial, during which we got a really good look at Jodi and how she behaves & thinks, was glossed over in about 25 pages. I knew when I saw the length of the book (352 pages) that there was no way she covered much of the trial. But there were a few nuggets about Jodi's early life which I didn't know about -- something that I would have thought was impossible! And, of course, there's nothing about how it all ends, since the final sentence is still to be determined.

I did go back and re-read the book and I'm going to take back pretty much all the positive things I've said about it. I don't know why I remembered it as being fairly good. I need to go on the Strawberry Frappuccino-Cinnabon diet with its amazing memory-enhancing effects. :blushing:

It looks like Shana Hogan interviewed a lot of Travis' friends and family members and had access to documents, emails, etc. There was definitely some information about his early life that I either didn't know or didn't remember (!!). I wasn't aware that his parents had divorced when he was quite young and that he was raised primarily by his mother. His dad died while Travis was on his mission. I wondered why he hadn't considered going to college -- apparently he did, and found it was not for him. He worked at a bunch of jobs before starting at PPL and really struggled, scraping by financially for several years before he really got going. Maybe this is all old news to everyone else, but it was new to me.

With Jodi, Hogan seemed to rely mostly on her police interviews, court testimony, blogs and so on. (She says at the end of the book she gave up on the idea of interviewing Jodi because she knew she'd never hear the truth.) Did we know that Jodi's parents found out she was growing marijuana on the roof of their house when Jodi was 14? That was another little nugget that was new to me. Hogan kind of presents a lot of what Jodi has said as what happened, despite the fact that most of it is BS. (Not all of it, though, not the finger-kicking episode, or the French maid's outfit -- that kind of thing.) Maybe Hogan is trying to allow the reader to make up his/her own mind, but that's not really how it came across to me.

Like I said, the trial is covered in the last 25 - 30 pages so it doesn't get nearly enough emphasis IMO. Hogan says that Jodi came across as arrogant and sarcastic but you certainly don't get the feel for those days and days and days of testimony. She glosses over the problems with Samuels and LaViolette. I felt like Hogan was trying to be even-handed with everybody, but there's such a thing as ignoring important points in an effort to be fair.

So my final recommendation would be if you can borrow the book from a friend or from the library, it's not a total waste of time. But I wouldn't bother buying it.
 
Another couple of nuggets from Shana Hogan's book:

"The 'pedophile letters' had been analyzed by handwriting experts [and found that] someone had used Travis's writing to create the messages. It appeared as if samples of his writing, possibly taken from his journals, was later cup up and used to create the letters."

Hogan also says that Juan Martinez was at the jail visiting another prisoner when Jodi tried to hand off the magazine with the coded message written in the margins -- that he was the one who asked the guard to take a careful look at it because he was suspicious.
 
Dangit! Nymeria busted me over on the Elliot Rodger's thread!!!:please:



OK, my Roku box didn't survive a power surge yesterday :scared: so I'm lurking around, and dangit if I wasn't finding some good series' from BBC on Amazon Prime, URGH!

:seeya: Nymeria! :seeya:

Was just wondering if ER picked up some of his "verbiage" in his manifesto from scenes out of Game of Thrones. I am totally clueless. Or maybe his gross entitlement.....kind of sounds like he thought he was an heir to the throne. But he was pretty engaged with the whole "Ice and Fire" books.
Can't place blame on anything or one but the killer. He had a really twisted reality.


BBM ~
LOL Nymeria, I see that you used quotation marks and I am laughing.
Every time I hear or see that word, I think of JA.
Then I have to stop for a minute and "de-edify"
my thoughts, because that word makes my brain scramble. :giggle:
 
Another couple of nuggets from Shana Hogan's book:

"The 'pedophile letters' had been analyzed by handwriting experts [and found that] someone had used Travis's writing to create the messages. It appeared as if samples of his writing, possibly taken from his journals, was later cup up and used to create the letters."

Hogan also says that Juan Martinez was at the jail visiting another prisoner when Jodi tried to hand off the magazine with the coded message written in the margins -- that he was the one who asked the guard to take a careful look at it because he was suspicious.

BBM That's something I didn't know.

Thanks, G&A :seeya:
 
BBM ~
LOL Nymeria, I see that you used quotation marks and I am laughing.
Every time I hear or see that word, I think of JA.
Then I have to stop for a minute and "de-edify"
my thoughts, because that word makes my brain scramble. :giggle:

I find JA's "Look how smart I am" words amusing and irritating myself :giggle: :banghead:

But Bernina wrote that post, not me ;)
 
http://www.buzzfeed.com/norbertobriceno/which-i-love-lucy-character-are-you

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I'm Fred Mertz:

"You got: Fred Mertz
CBS Photo Archive / Getty Images
You’re as old-fashioned as apple pie. You may look tough, but you’re also a teddy bear. There’s more to you than meets the eye, so get out there and show the world what you can do."

:floorlaugh:

I am an Ethel....not sure how I feel about that :facepalm:

Is sounds nice though-

You got: Ethel Mertz

You’re a homegirl and then some. You’re a true friend, always offering unconditional support. If they ever need your help, you’re ready to take on the world for them.
 
Wow! You're right YorN! Today's the day. Six long years ago. Hope the Alexander family gets some resolution this fall.
 
Here's an article by Dr. Kristina Randle that makes a lot of sense (maybe why Nurmi didn't call him to the stand that day- JM would have made mincemeat out of him and squashed him like a bug. :floorlaugh:):


"Jodi Arias Trial: An Analysis of the New Darryl Brewer Interview

...Remember he said that the new Jodi was unrecognizable to him...
The interviewer asked Darryl “how did Jodi seem to you?” He responded, “she was completely normal. She was happy. She seemed perfectly fine.”...

I believe him. Jodi did appear “perfectly” normal. I’m sure she was happy. I’m sure she said all the right things and did all the right things.

Now does anyone see the problem with what he has reported to us? The problem is he said the new Jodi was totally unrecognizable to him. However, it was the “new” Jodi that came to him that day for the gas cans and to have breakfast. It was the “new” Jodi, yet he describes her as being perfectly normal, the same “old” Jodi that he’s always known.

Darryl might be a bright guy but I’ll bet that he has never had to worry about reaching into his pencil box and stabbing himself in the fingers... :floorlaugh:

Jodi Arias deceived Darryl Brewer. He thought the Jodi Arias he knew was the “real” Jodi Arias. There is no “real” Jodi Arias. She is whatever persona that she decides to project and she projects whatever persona that will best benefit her, with each person that she meets.

Darryl Brewer went on to say that he trusted Jodi Arias with his most valued possession, his son. The only reason that Darryl and his son are alive today, is because it was not beneficial for Jodi Arias to kill them. If it had been, they’d be just as dead as Travis." :rockon:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-an-analysis-of-the-new-darryl-brewer-interview/

Darryl Brewer on Jodi Arias - YouTube
 
Here's an article by Dr. Kristina Randle that makes a lot of sense (maybe why Nurmi didn't call him to the stand that day- JM would have made mincemeat out of him and squashed him like a bug. :floorlaugh:):


"Jodi Arias Trial: An Analysis of the New Darryl Brewer Interview

...Remember he said that the new Jodi was unrecognizable to him...
The interviewer asked Darryl “how did Jodi seem to you?” He responded, “she was completely normal. She was happy. She seemed perfectly fine.”...

I believe him. Jodi did appear “perfectly” normal. I’m sure she was happy. I’m sure she said all the right things and did all the right things.

Now does anyone see the problem with what he has reported to us? The problem is he said the new Jodi was totally unrecognizable to him. However, it was the “new” Jodi that came to him that day for the gas cans and to have breakfast. It was the “new” Jodi, yet he describes her as being perfectly normal, the same “old” Jodi that he’s always known.

Darryl might be a bright guy but I’ll bet that he has never had to worry about reaching into his pencil box and stabbing himself in the fingers... :floorlaugh:

Jodi Arias deceived Darryl Brewer. He thought the Jodi Arias he knew was the “real” Jodi Arias. There is no “real” Jodi Arias. She is whatever persona that she decides to project and she projects whatever persona that will best benefit her, with each person that she meets.

Darryl Brewer went on to say that he trusted Jodi Arias with his most valued possession, his son. The only reason that Darryl and his son are alive today, is because it was not beneficial for Jodi Arias to kill them. If it had been, they’d be just as dead as Travis." :rockon:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-an-analysis-of-the-new-darryl-brewer-interview/

Thanks for this. A very interesting article as hers always are.

I also think, in addition to what Kristin Randle says, that Darryl Brewer had to be under a huge amount of pressure from friends and family who, at best, gave him a hard time about not recognizing this "obvious" psychopath and, at worst, called him a lousy father for subjecting his son to her company. I think he feels the need to explain why he lived with her for so long and this is his explanation that he came up with.
 
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