SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

[LinTX]

I don't think the idea would be to offer her a deal, but rather just to take the DP off the table.

OK, I see. Still think I like leaving the option for DP open for the jury to consider, but agree with you that it will most likely be LWOP.

eta: AZlawyer, does the State have the option to drop DP at any time up to actual sentencing by the judge?

 

[Tuba]

Tuba, have you tried restoring to a day before you updated Java?

Yes, that is the only reason I restored my system at all. I have really messed up opting for a Java update.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hi Tuba,
I am sorry you are having problems with Java and Oracle. You are way over my head. When my computer gets sick I have to take it to someone who knows a lot more than I do. . Which doesn't take much. My hard drive is so slow. I just use my iPad for everything now.

I hope you can get it working properly because I really like your posts.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Niner, I would like to post the source but I think it was AP or the Washington Insider, I read news from all over. Anyway, the violence is so bad in Missouri because this teen was killed by a policeman. I don't even know the details. But because race violence is so prevalent now, and because outsiders have come in and stirred the pot, business owners are even having to stay at their stores to guard them because of looting and breaking windows and burning, etc. The city is very close to an international airport. And there must have been threats made, by whom I have no idea, because the FAA posted "no fly over" and restricted airspace around this town. The article had the bulletin released today by the FAA and all airlines were told not to fly there. I am like you, what would cause such an alarm? That place is only 7 hours from me.
Because I have an iPad, I can't copy and paste. I will go back and find it so you all can see it for yourselves.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Niner, the FAA article is on thedailycaller.com. And on drudgereport.com
There is an update that shots were fired at a police helicopter and that started the mess.
Earlier today on Washington insider.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Niner, the FAA article is on thedailycaller.com. And on drudgereport.com
There is an update that shots were fired at a police helicopter and that started the mess.
Earlier today on Washington insider.

Niner, the tv station in St. Louis reporting about this is kmov.com

Ok. I won't post anymore about this. I will just pray for safety for everyone. sorry.


Back to the trial of JA..............

 

[AZlawyer]

OK, I see. Still think I like leaving the option for DP open for the jury to consider, but agree with you that it will most likely be LWOP.

eta: AZlawyer, does the State have the option to drop DP at any time up to actual sentencing by the judge?

Well, if the jury says death, I think it would be too late after that. But I haven't researched the issue.

 

[YESorNO]

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"a completely fractured relationship between counsel ( and missy:jail: ) now exists and that this conflict is completely irreconcilable."

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

another this day in hisstory update. Lauren Bacall died today.


[video=youtube;kv2K62fTXIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kv2K62fTXIs[/video]

 

[YESorNO]

"Lauren Bacall, the sultry blonde siren who became an overnight star via a memorable film debut at age 19 opposite Humphrey Bogart in Howard Hawks’ “To Have and Have Not,” died Tuesday of a suspected stroke at her home in the Dakota in Manhattan. She was 89.

The Bogart estate confirmed the news on Twitter...."

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/lauren-bacall-star-of-hollywoods-golden-age-dies-at-89-1201281523/

RIP Baby :candle:

Bogart is waiting for you.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Sorry for the OT, but has anyone ever had one of those days that you feel sad, depressed, angry, anxious, agitated, all in one ? That's the kind of day I'm having, was up late trying to digest the horrible tragedy of Robin Williams death. :cry: Then my dear, very beloved dog decided to wake me up at 3:00 a.m. so I have had hardly any sleep. On top of that I've been subjected to an annoying, neurotic air conditioning man all morning long, :gaah: . Then there's that murderer, CMJA, :banghead: .... And the 4 pounds I've gained over the last three weeks for no good reason. ullhair: I just seriously feel like screaming or throwing something . :tantrum:

Now I've gone and done it, shamed myself with my whining. :shame: So lest I forget, I must say that I'm very, very thankful that I have nice, cool air conditioning, and for many, many other things as well . Such as all of you here, my Websleuth friends :loveyou: There, I feel a little better already, thank you for letting me vent. :seeya:

That was my day yesterday neesaki. I was in a terrible mood, and on the verge of tears all day, and I was not a happy camper at all. Today is better, getting back in the routine of fixing dinner for my sister during the week. Her school started yesterday, so maybe it's help doing something instead of just being pissed.

 

[Tuba]

Very good of you and so helpful, to post Mr. Nurmi's motion to withdraw.

 

[Tuba]

Now we can wonder what off the wall theory of mitigation the killer wants to introduce. It caused the irreparable break in the relationship with Nurmi. I hope he IS allowed to withdraw.

 

[YESorNO]

Speaking of Juan, did the cop who killed the cop out in AZ get sentenced? Thik his name was Hulsey.

Not yet.

Tomorrow- maybe?

 

[YESorNO]

Sorry for the OT, but has anyone ever had one of those days that you feel sad, depressed, angry, anxious, agitated, all in one ? That's the kind of day I'm having, was up late trying to digest the horrible tragedy of Robin Williams death. :cry: Then my dear, very beloved dog decided to wake me up at 3:00 a.m. so I have had hardly any sleep. On top of that I've been subjected to an annoying, neurotic air conditioning man all morning long, :gaah: . Then there's that murderer, CMJA, :banghead: .... And the 4 pounds I've gained over the last three weeks for no good reason. ullhair: I just seriously feel like screaming or throwing something . :tantrum:

Now I've gone and done it, shamed myself with my whining. :shame: So lest I forget, I must say that I'm very, very thankful that I have nice, cool air conditioning, and for many, many other things as well . Such as all of you here, my Websleuth friends :loveyou: There, I feel a little better already, thank you for letting me vent. :seeya:

That's not O/T as this is the Sidebar and not just a thread to discuss the trial.

And definitely not whining, IMO. This AM was my turn to feel sad. :sigh:

Hope you are better tonight. :blowkiss:

"Robin Williams' Depression in His Own Words:

When asked specifically if he had a diagnosis of clinical depression, Williams said he did not. "No clinical depression, no. No. I get bummed, like I think a lot of us do at certain times," he explained. "You look at the world and go, 'Whoa.' Other moments you look and go, 'Oh, things are okay.'".."

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/ro...rds-alcohol-once-led-113000385-us-weekly.html

 

[Love Never Fails]

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"a completely fractured relationship between counsel ( and missy:jail: ) now exists and that this conflict is completely irreconcilable."

I read this as a "completely fractured relationship between counsel now exists" to mean that his relationship with Wilmott is completely irreconcilable. I have to wonder if Wilmott and Maria have taken sides with JA against Nurmi.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Now we can wonder what off the wall theory of mitigation the killer wants to introduce. It caused the irreparable break in the relationship with Nurmi. I hope he IS allowed to withdraw.

Did it cause the break? I didn't read that but after reading the whole document, I didn't see a good reason for him to be removed at this late date. But I sure can understand how he would feel that way.
AZlawyer had said that there must be a lead counsel and a co-counsel. If he is removed, another attorney will have to step in. This will cause a further delay. I admit it's a mess but shouldn't they all be forced to complete this trial?

 

[Renee110]

You are not alone as I too want cameras and hope the judge ends up giving at least a short delay for cameras instead of not at all.

But even if no cameras, I think there will be news reporters summing up each day of the case and so maybe we can still discuss based on daily writeups by news people or others who may be attending the trial.

I dont want to give Jodi a platform for her narcism but my desire to see this outweighs that by a long shot. I want to see her fall on her face and be laughed out of the courtroom each day.

Oh I so want cameras! It's like a train wreck…. you can't help but look. And I love watching Juan in action.

 

[Tuba]

When he says a rift between counsel, he is referring to Arias who is serving as her own counsel and himself. Nonetheless, he is not under Offices of Public Defense Services and other members of the team are, so as you say, there may indeed be dissension now between Nurmi and directives and permissions from those offices. But beside that, he is at odds with Arias herself and what she particularly wants to do.

Further, he is well aware that Arias wants to see the back of him and he makes clear that this is mutual antipathy. Nurmi's ideas of how to proceed conflict with the plans of Arias. He is a free agent with his own ideas.

 

[Zuri]

Glad you all are here. My brother was murdered at this very time 32 years ago. It seems like yesterday. Thanks for supporting me like you all have. You are the kindest people in the world. Xoxo