SIDEBAR #29- Arias/Alexander forum

[Spellbound]

The weather in Upstate NY is cold. Fall :autumn: is here and some of the leaves are turning- nights at 40 and days in the 50's already (got my woolies on and blankets on the beds). Snow will probably be in the forecast by next month, IMO. :gaah: I'm not looking forward to this Winter at all. :coldout: :snowflake: :scared:

I couldn't thank you post, Y/N-- it was depressing. That is about how it is here in SE Michigan, too. I had enough snow, cold, and ice last year to last the rest of my life!

 

[Bernina]

Bernina or Y or N......can she really get up in court and talk for days again? Once was enough.

Depends.......on whether she takes the stand in the "mini trial review".

 

[krkrjx]

A lot of people called St.Jude's about this, including one of our own members. Here's the first report that I saw :

View attachment 59214

It was later reported that this Ben Ernst is one of the 'officials' of her websites and one who handles some of the donated money from the "art" sales.
In the above, apparently 'JACK' is used by some TA supporters as short for Jodi Arias Convicted Killer

eta: to add info on Ernst

OK, now I am really confused.

Why would anyone associated with selling JA art and who knows what else make a donation under the pseudonym JACK if it means Jodi Arias Convicted Killer and is used only by TA supporters?

Yes, she is convicted but none of her supporters ever refer to her that way.

If someone donated to St. Jude's in memory of Travis for the right reasons, it would be good to know that. But if it came from anyone in JA's camp it is not for the right reasons.

The JACK thing...did they claim their name was JACK in the donation? Or what? Where is it being said anyone using the name JACK was the donor?

 

[grammieto5]

holy moly, the things you find out when you're not looking for them. I just read the CEO for St. Jude makes $900 K plus a year. He's retiring this year. Wonder how much the new CEO will make.

 

[krkrjx]

Just thinking out loud, also have some questions/concerns:

My understanding is Arias cannot claim in this retrial that the first jury got it wrong. Correct?

She cannot challenge the guilty verdict with statements of her "innocence." Correct?

But if she brings anything not allowed up in her allocution, what can happen? Anything?

I believe TA's family can make statements again this time...will their statements happen after her allocution? If so, can they turn around anything she states that was proven wrong at trial?...Such as, "I am innocent and acted in self defense and I stand by that even though the first jury didn't believe me."

Does anyone know about any of this? Or do I need to post these on the Q & A thread?

 

[LambChop]

Isn't Jack the name of Darryl's son?????

Testimony by Jodi on 2/27/13

"spent night @ place he was living
yes got up in the morning . . . before Jack had to go to school . . . don't remember time
plans to meet MM or did you call on the road
definatley beforehand cuz I was gonna crash thered
week before or days before
don't know we spoke here and there don't know
did MM go with you to meet Brewer?
no"

 

[Bernina]

My daughter is an artist and she gets maybe $300 or so for a drawing. But then, she has not murdered anyone.

:shame:.....see how kids are? Give them the genes for talent and they don't doing anything crazy to market their product so they have that excuse not to send a bit of $love$ back to the gene pool they came from!!!!!:gaah:

Just kiddin!

My son went to the Academy of Art for 5 years and does sculptures, and builds off of "munny" platforms in vinyl. His stuff runs between $35 and $3000.

I am still lovingly known as the "Banco de la Madre",

but it's chilled out a bit the last few months, guess it's better than being known as the "Mom from Hell".

*snicker*

 

[LinTX]

OK, now I am really confused.

Why would anyone associated with selling JA art and who knows what else make a donation under the pseudonym JACK if it means Jodi Arias Convicted Killer and is used only by TA supporters?

Yes, she is convicted but none of her supporters ever refer to her that way.

If someone donated to St. Jude's in memory of Travis for the right reasons, it would be good to know that. But if it came from anyone in JA's camp it is not for the right reasons.

The JACK thing...did they claim their name was JACK in the donation? Or what? Where is it being said anyone using the name JACK was the donor?

Sorry for the confusion. The person that called St. Jude's and who wrote the account of her call is NOT a JA supporter, she's part of a TA support group - she is the one that used the acronym JACK (for JA). She is saying the donation was charged to this Ben guy's credit card. Ben Ernst is the JA 'team member' who is involved w/ her "art" fund account. The letter/receipt that JA's website posted also lists the email address for her "art" fund. The person that wrote this account about calling St.Jude's is saying that JA's name does not show up anywhere with this donation, only Ben's and the dedication to TA. Does that help?

 

[Bernina]

OK, now I am really confused.

Why would anyone associated with selling JA art and who knows what else make a donation under the pseudonym JACK if it means Jodi Arias Convicted Killer and is used only by TA supporters?

I *think* the attachment was from a Justice for TA or similar site on Facebook, thus the "JACK". On the CMJA support page, Bert Ernst is the one who made the donation and posted a pic of the "receipt" bearing Travis' name as the tribute. You have to sort back and forth between the 2 to put it in perspective.

Yes, she is convicted but none of her supporters ever refer to her that way.

If someone donated to St. Jude's in memory of Travis for the right reasons, it would be good to know that. But if it came from anyone in JA's camp it is not for the right reasons.

The JACK thing...did they claim their name was JACK in the donation? Or what? Where is it being said anyone using the name JACK was the donor?
Nope............see above.

Answers in blue.

 

[LambChop]

Sorry for the confusion. The person that called St. Jude's and who wrote the account of her call is NOT a JA supporter, she's part of a TA support group - she is the one that used the acronym JACK (for JA). She is saying the donation was charged to this Ben guy's credit card. Ben Ernst is the JA 'team member' who is involved w/ her "art" fund account. The letter/receipt that JA's website posted also lists the email address for her "art" fund. The person that wrote this account about calling St.Jude's is saying that JA's name does not show up anywhere with this donation, only Ben's and the dedication to TA. Does that help?

Okay, I got it. Probably not a good acronym considering the child that was involved in her life. They may not realized that. jmo

 

[YESorNO]

Soi just called St. Jude's and inquired about the $900 donation, explained who Jodi is, etc. I spoke to "Kenneth" who has never heard of Jodi or Ben and knows nothing about a $900 donation made in Travis' honor. He took my name and number and said a supervisor would return my call today. We will see.

On another matter,I was just at the FB page for the State vs. Jodi and it said the courthouse website listed a conference meeting for Jodi's trial today, Thursday the 18th and the poster was asking if anyone knows what it's about?

There was a pre-trial conference according to the AZ court website:


Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
9/18/2014 027 - ME: Pretrial Conference - Party (001) 9/18/2014

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

No one has tweeted about it, so I didn't post it- didn't want to rile anyone up with hopes of knowing what was going on. I was hoping JSS would make a ruling
on the cameras today, so I sat on Twitter today for a while, but no one tweeted anything about it. :gaah:

 

[Bernina]

Just thinking out loud, also have some questions/concerns:

My understanding is Arias cannot claim in this retrial that the first jury got it wrong. Correct?

Correct.

She cannot challenge the guilty verdict with statements of her "innocence." Correct?

Correct.

But if she brings anything not allowed up in her allocution, what can happen? Anything?

​Juan hit her over the head......no, she's given the guidelines for what is allowed and her attorneys WILL go over it before she presents it. IF she goes out of bounds, someone will cut her off, Judge, Prosecutor, Defense, or maybe we'll see a little stun gun action from the sheriffs.

I believe TA's family can make statements again this time...will their statements happen after her allocution? If so, can they turn around anything she states that was proven wrong at trial?...Such as, "I am innocent and acted in self defense and I stand by that even though the first jury didn't believe me."

"Impact Statements" are BEFORE her allocution. They can NOT say "We want her hung by her toes", etc. etc. They can only say how this murder and the loss of Travis has effected their lives. (http://www.azbar.org/media/58847/3-capital_case_instructions_revised_2013.pdf starts on page 30, Penalty phase) I think there WILL be some re-writes from what we heard in the first penalty phase. If CMJA has an evening or two to "ponder" over their statements before she allocutes, expect her to stick the knife in by twisting their words to fit her agenda, like she did last time around.

Does anyone know about any of this? Or do I need to post these on the Q & A thread?

I think the link I posted will give you most of the info you need.......I hope!

 

[spcagrl]

St. Jude has a Facebook page, I took a look......comments can be made I. The page, but I didn't see anything about it....

 

[Bernina]

There was a pre-trial conference according to the AZ court website:


Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
9/18/2014 027 - ME: Pretrial Conference - Party (001) 9/18/2014

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

No one has tweeted about it, so I didn't post it- didn't want to rile anyone up with hopes of knowing what was going on. I was hoping JSS would make a ruling
on the cameras today, so I sat on Twitter today for a while, but no one tweeted anything about it. :gaah:

Y or N, did you notice this?

"SUE STODOLA - (3) Mitigation Specialist"


I thought Maria DelaChaCha was the Mitigation Specialist?

 

[grammieto5]

St. Jude has a Facebook page, I took a look......comments can be made I. The page, but I didn't see anything about it....

I hadn't thought of making a comment, I just sent them basically the same Private message I sent to Marlo Thomas. Now I'm thinking, mmmm dare I post a comment ????

 

[krkrjx]

holy moly, the things you find out when you're not looking for them. I just read the CEO for St. Jude makes $900 K plus a year. He's retiring this year. Wonder how much the new CEO will make.

They bring in a lot in donations. A lot. A LOT. No way, no how do they need blood money. I would think they would return blood money without hesitation.

 

[krkrjx]

Sorry for the confusion. The person that called St. Jude's and who wrote the account of her call is NOT a JA supporter, she's part of a TA support group - she is the one that used the acronym JACK (for JA). She is saying the donation was charged to this Ben guy's credit card. Ben Ernst is the JA 'team member' who is involved w/ her "art" fund account. The letter/receipt that JA's website posted also lists the email address for her "art" fund. The person that wrote this account about calling St.Jude's is saying that JA's name does not show up anywhere with this donation, only Ben's and the dedication to TA. Does that help?

Helps a lot, thank you.

What do you think of this donation? I mean, this Ben person donating in TA's honor but not mentioning the killer. What do you make of it? Am I riled up for nothing?

 

[YESorNO]

OK, now I am really confused.

Why would anyone associated with selling JA art and who knows what else make a donation under the pseudonym JACK if it means Jodi Arias Convicted Killer and is used only by TA supporters?

Yes, she is convicted but none of her supporters ever refer to her that way.

If someone donated to St. Jude's in memory of Travis for the right reasons, it would be good to know that. But if it came from anyone in JA's camp it is not for the right reasons.

The JACK thing...did they claim their name was JACK in the donation? Or what? Where is it being said anyone using the name JACK was the donor?

Here are the donation papers again:

Pg. 1:
https://www.facebook.com/JuanMartin...s/pcb.295214504005466/295214480672135/?type=1

Pg. 2:
https://www.facebook.com/JuanMartin...s/pcb.295214504005466/295214490672134/?type=1

As you can see for yourself, there is no name ("Dear friend") either in the Thank-you part (pg 1) or the order confirmation (pg 2).

The "bill to" is whited-out and only the email address- states art by jodi arias ([email protected])- shows where the donation is coming from.

Someone from her website who handles all her monies, etc. sent the $900 in Travis' name. What does it matter who did the actual sending by credit card- it's still missy:jail: who did the donation.

We're spinning our wheels for nothing here, IMO :moo:

Whether St. Jude's keeps the money or not is up to them and we probably won't hear about it anyway- at least not from them. :moo::moo:

 

[YESorNO]

Y or N, did you notice this?

"SUE STODOLA - (3) Mitigation Specialist"


I thought Maria DelaChaCha was the Mitigation Specialist?

She was the old mitigation spec. That has always been on the page- they just didn't change it to Maria.

 

[Dmacky]

Has anyone else noticed that in JA's "self portrait" it looks like she has devil Horns on both sides of her head :giggle: How fitting :devil: