SIDEBAR #38 - Arias/Alexander forum

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How come she is so vague on dates this time? She knew what date, time and how often she went to the bathroom in the first trial testimony.... didn't she?

I only got through Oct. 30 and my eyes gave out. I don't see how any of this has helped her at all. Admitting she did it and did things to cover up/act normal? How is that a mitigator? sheesh
 
How come she is so vague on dates this time? She knew what date, time and how often she went to the bathroom in the first trial testimony.... didn't she?

I only got through Oct. 30 and my eyes gave out. I don't see how any of this has helped her at all. Admitting she did it and did things to cover up/act normal? How is that a mitigator? sheesh

She's going for the confused, abused, "people are soooooo mean to me and I have mental issues cause of it" mitigator.
Like maybe she lost brains cells with the choking, smacked unconscious, pre-natal dope smoking, and teenage drug use.

CMJA is just re-packaging Travis' life as her own. BPD "Chameleon".
 
Finished reading the transcripts.
I don't understand why this testimony had to be secret???

I mean, the only thing really different was that testimony about drugs and her parents. Most was the same :blah::blah::blah: from the
trial last year. Does she want to protect her parents reputation?

I mean, if I were her, I would want to show that her parents were "druggies"-goes with the "abuse" baloney from her parents, IMO- drug addicts
that don't take care of their children correctly and are abusive. Maybe as the years went by, her parents
abused" her more and weren't lovey-dovey towards her because of the drugs- and they didn't care about her- only the drugs??

How's that for "abusive parents"- story #4 of missy:jail: abuse by everyone. :facepalm:

They had a piano? or did I misread?

Pftttt All the hub-bub for nothing, IMO.

ETA: I think that they should strike this testimony if the court doesn't let JM cross-examine. It's only fair in my eyes.
 
I don't understand why this testimony had to be secret either. Why is a convicted murderer given special treatment?
Why do witnesses testify under pseudonyms? Why is the victim and his family treated so shabbily? Is this the future of the American justice system?
 
Convicted killer Jodi Arias struggled to admit murder, transcript says

"Convicted murderer Jodi Arias told a jury deciding whether she should be executed for killing her former lover that she struggled for two years to admit to herself that she did the crime, according to secret testimony released on Tuesday..."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ed-to-admit-murder-transcript-says/ar-AA881Rz
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#GoldPatrol Update. Jodi Secret No Mo

[video=youtube;NxW_LJS9Sjc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxW_LJS9Sjc[/video]
 
All I have to say at this point:

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Link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7RcENiCQAImx3n.jpg

Everything else is bull and irrelevant!
 
I don't understand why this testimony had to be secret either. Why is a convicted murderer given special treatment?
Why do witnesses testify under pseudonyms? Why is the victim and his family treated so shabbily? Is this the future of the American justice system?

I think "protecting the defendants rights" is going overboard in this case. We all know who the defendant is- she's not underage and needs to be protected. Bah!
 
I guess Jeff Gold has a good point. Jodi was allowed to testify in secret because she didn't want the public and the media know that she was changing the "tone" of her testimony about killing Travis. Seriously? What a train-wreck.
 
While we wait... Here's a nearly-two hour legal discussion/debate/argument about the Casey Anthony trial. I'm posting it here because it's fascinating and because it shows many parallels between the craziness of CA's trial and the craziness of JA's. I hope I hope I hope the Pace Law School Center for Continuing Legal Education does a presentation on the Jodi Arias trial, if and when it ever ends. Would Nurmi and Martinez be able to sit next to each other on stage and even feign civility?

Trials & Errors: The Casey Anthony Case (
Pace University, 5/31/12)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjxNH2rYdOw

As crazy as the Anthony case was it cant begin to be compared to this case. IMO

Never ever in over 35 years+ of keeping up with criminal trials/cases have I seen another one that even comes close to the craziness seen in this case.

You name it.......from the defense lawyers to the Judge to the defendant...........this case is unique and unto its own. It has stood the justice system and the constitution on its head.

IMO
 
Since I'm already agitated, I'll go watch CNN's new report on the OJ Trial.
 
As crazy as the Anthony case was it cant begin to be compared to this case. IMO

Never ever in over 35 years+ of keeping up with criminal trials/cases have I seen another one that even comes close to the craziness seen in this case.

You name it.......from the defense lawyers to the Judge to the defendant...........this case is unique and unto its own. It has stood the justice system and the constitution on its head.

IMO
Agree. (can't get my thanks option to work)
 
So Jodi was allowed to testify in secret because she didn't want the public and the media know that she was changing the "tone" of her testimony about killing Travis. Seriously? What a train-wreck.

I don't agree with Jeff about her changing her tone. She doesn't know a tone that exhibits true remorse because she is not remorseful and these are only practiced words that mean nothing to her.

I have no doubt she spoke in the same boring emotionless tone like she did during the trial as if the jury were imaginary board members at a meeting she was holding.
 
What harm could come if this was not secret? Her mom may be shopping for a bigger wooden spoon as we speak....
 
I don't agree with Jeff about her changing her tone. She doesn't know a tone that exhibits true remorse because she is not remorseful and these are only practiced words that mean nothing to her.

I have no doubt she spoke in the same boring emotionless tone like she did during the trial as if the jury were imaginary board members at a meeting she was holding.

I agree completely with you.
 
I don't agree with Jeff about her changing her tone. She doesn't know a tone that exhibits true remorse because she is not remorseful and these are only practiced words that mean nothing to her.

I have no doubt she spoke in the same boring emotionless tone like she did during the trial as if the jury were imaginary board members at a meeting she was holding.

Right. She probably is incapable of emoting remorse. She did change up some words through and spoke about regret for killing Travis. That must have been a big leap for her.
 
To me, she said that she wished she did things differently and not specifically that she wished she didn't murder Travis.
 
As to being cross-examined by JM on her secret testimony:


"...¶ 32 In Arizona, a defendant has a right to allocute before sentencing.   Ariz. R.Crim. P. 19.1(d)(7), 26.10(b)(1).   This right, however, is “not absolute.”  Anderson, 210 Ariz. at 350 ¶ 100, 111 P.3d at 392.   Defendants may not “shift a mitigating circumstance ․ [into] allocution and thereby insulate that mitigating circumstance from rebuttal evidence.”  State v. Armstrong, 218 Ariz. 451, 463 ¶ 59, 189 P.3d 378, 390 (2008).   We have repeatedly upheld trial courts' admonitions that defendants may be subject to cross-examination if they exceed the scope of permissible allocution.   See, e.g., State v. Womble, _ P.3d _, 2010 WL 2720408, *7-8 ¶¶ 42-45 (Ariz. July 12, 2010);  Armstrong, 218 Ariz. at 463 ¶ 59, 189 P.3d at 390.   The judge did not abuse his discretion in so warning Chappell.

¶ 33 We find similarly unpersuasive Chappell's argument that placing limits on his allocution violated due process. The cases Chappell cites address a complete denial of a defendant's right to speak before sentencing, rather than the effect of limiting such speech.   See, e.g., Hill v. United States, 368 U.S. 424, 428 (1962);  McGautha v. California, 402 U.S. 183, 217-20 (1971);  Boardman v. Estelle, 957 F.2d 1523, 1530 (9th Cir.1992).   Here, in contrast, Chappell was permitted to speak to the jury before sentencing.
- See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-supreme-court/1533676.html#sthash.dEnLDiKp.dpuf

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-supreme-court/1533676.html
 
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