SIDEBAR #41 - Arias/Alexander forum

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 36s36 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says you gave these tests when you were licensed for 9 months DeMarte- NO #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 34s34 seconds ago
Nurmi asks if Dr. De had been licensed for "about a year..." when giving #JodiArias initial tests. "No." she sternly says. "It was a year.."

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 27s28 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Well about a yearDeMarte- NO it was a year #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 31s32 seconds ago
Nurmi subtly criticizing Dr. De's qualifications. #jodiarias


 
Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 39s39 seconds ago
"Are you aware that our expert was licensed in 1980? Are you aware that they are published in..." - Nurmi. Juan objects. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 33s33 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
KN asks if DeMarte did u do lectures, peer reviews during this time frame of 2011 when u were testing JA - D says NO #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 58s59 seconds ago
Sizzle. #JodiArias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 43s44 seconds ago
#jodiarias atty:"You didn't publish, do research, give lectures on trauma and PTSD."DeMarte"Correct."Defense:DeMarte not qualified.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 40s40 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Both Dr's that diagnosed Jodi with PTSD had over 30 years experience #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 37s37 seconds ago
Nurmi is reminding DeMarte that she has not published or presented at conferences for years, in contrast to the long career of female shrink

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 35s35 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
SIdebar.... Juan wants to approach he says Nurmi is testifying #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 47s48 seconds ago
"Borderline... feel like I'm going to lose my mind." Madonna song lyric sums up prosecution case against #jodiarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 30s30 seconds ago
"Would you agree that it takes training & experience to determine whether or not someone has PTSD?" - Nurmi, "Yes." Dr. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 23s23 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- You can't just look at someone and say they do or don't have PTSD..you have to have trainingDeMarte- Yes you have to have training

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 16s16 seconds ago
#jodiarias defense:"You only know the things you want to know to support your opinions, correct?DeMarte:"No."

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 28s28 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- You only know the things you want to know to support your opinions DeMarte- NO #jodiarias #3tvarias


 
Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 49s50 seconds ago
Dr: "When people have intrusive thoughts you can see it. You can see a behavioral change when they have intrusive thoughts." #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 58s58 seconds ago
I can't count the amount of times DeMarte has asked Nurmi, "What's your question?" #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 36s36 seconds ago
Dr: "Lack of attention. They tap their foot. Rub their hands together." #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 40s41 seconds ago
Nurmi pointed out DeMarte only had one year of experience of psychology when she interviewed #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 58s58 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte says she can see a change in body language when people have intrusive thoughts #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 34s34 seconds ago
Nurmi mocks the witness to create doubt in credibility, "So mind reading?" #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 53s53 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Dr D says she's an expert on trauma & can correlate this with behaviors of how the person acts while having an intrusive thought #jodiarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 41s41 seconds ago
Nurmi just called DeMarte "you, a psychologist of one year's experience" when she evaluated #jodiarias for the first time.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 34s34 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi calls her a mind reader #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 39s40 seconds ago
Nurmi asks Dr. if #JodiArias avoided contact w/her family. Dr says, "Yes, there was some avoidance."
 
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Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s17 seconds ago
DeMarte wants to argue an interpretation. Nurmi, in an impatient voice: "Doctor, do you understand you are here to answer my questions?"

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says "You are here to answer my questions!"Juan objects on "Harassment" and Judge overrules #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 49s50 seconds ago
Nurmi now starts asking about her research in domestic violence since she became licensed. None. Nurmi asks if her work as a student counts

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 1m1 minute ago
"You believe it's ok to count your work as a student as EXPERIENCE?" - Nurmi. "Absolutely." - Dr. De #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 39s40 seconds ago
Nurmi asks DeMarte "Do you think it's appropriate to count your time as a student as experience?" DeMarte, "Absolutely."

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 15s15 seconds ago
#jodiarias defense: DeMarte had only one year experience as licensed psychologist when she made assessment Arias didn't have PTSD
 
Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 32s32 seconds ago
Dr: "Experience doesn't just come once you're license. I started seeing patients in 2004." #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 55s56 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi is saying DeMarte can't count her experience as a student DeMarte says what do you mean by "count" #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 47s48 seconds ago
Nurmi repeats: Is it proper to say her work as a student counts as experience in evaluation? She says license is a test after experience.

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 40s40 seconds ago
"You're not even a DOCTOR... right? Do you count your experience in High School?!" - Nurmi #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 34s35 seconds ago
Nurmi: "How far does this go back? Do you count your experience in high school?"

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 47s47 seconds ago
"So you don't count talking to your friends in High School counts as experience?" Chuckles Nurmi. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 35s35 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
KN says "U were only licensed a year when giving Jodi tests" DeMarte says experience doesn't come the minute u become licensed. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 48s48 seconds ago
Now Nurmi is asking if DeMarte talking to her friends counts as experience. Lol. Laughing so hard right now. Her answer, "No." #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 32s32 seconds ago
Dr: "Absolutely not. I only count TREATMENT of patients under the supervision of a license psychologist." #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte tells jury she constantly saw patients since 2004 #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
DeMarte fends off accusation she is inexperienced, never losing her cool. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 33s33 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte says she couldn't call herself a psychologist until licensed #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 45s45 seconds ago
"So you don't count talking to your friends in High School as experience?" Chuckles Nurmi. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 27s27 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says so you are going to count your experience in High School?DeMarte says no I wasn't seeing patients then #jodiarias #3tvarias
 
KINSEY SCHOFIELD ‏@kinseyschofield 46s46 seconds ago
#jodiarias No rhythm to Defense questioning. Like a one sided ping pong game. Nurmi vs. Wall.

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 44s44 seconds ago
After a bunch of snarky exchanges, sizzle bar. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi just asked if she was evaluating Travis Alexander as well. Nurmi says Alexander was exposed to DV as child which would have effect.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 56s57 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks why DeMarte didn't read Travis's journalsDeMarte says she wasn't hired to evaluate Mr. Alexander #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 29s30 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks well if TA was abused wouldn't that be importantJuan objects this is not to mitigating factors and we have a sidebar #jodiarias


 
So is he saying her license and experience did not qualify her to test and diagnose his client, then CMJA doesn't have the borderline personality disorder 'mental illness' that's listed in like three of her mitigating factors?

Also, IIRC didn't Geffner say in the guilt phase, that he hadn't personally administered or scored any testing in decades - that staff did all that (the 'royal we' he kept using)? Nurmi is a fool, IMO, JMO
 
Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 27s28 seconds ago
#jodiarias accuses DeMarte of being unaware of facts about Travis Alexander's upbringing.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 22s22 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
KN- are you aware TA was exposed to DV as a child DeMarte- I did read he had a difficult childhood but nothing further than that #jodiarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 40s41 seconds ago
Dr De is only a little aware of DV in TA's childhood. Nurmi says her research is incomplete since she's not totally familiar. #jodiarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 37s38 seconds ago
De says she was evaluating #JodiArias, not Travis Alexander.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 53s54 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- So your case review is incomplete?DeMarte- No I was evaluating #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 43s43 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Victims of DV don't always report DeMarte- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias


 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- Victims of DV don't always report DeMarte- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 57s58 seconds ago
Jury looks tired. Not much note taking now. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says people don't report to protect the abuserDeMarte states that could be one reason and gives others #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 10s11 seconds ago
DeMarte just corrected Nurmi about what they were talking about....child abuse not domestic violence. Nurmi's all over the place. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 7s8 seconds ago
"In terms of Geff, you reviewed his interview? Did you know that he has 30yrs exp? Did you know he runs a DV institute?" - Nurmi #jodiarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 29s30 seconds ago
Answer to all, "Yes." #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 23s24 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi is talking up the Geff and how experienced he is #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 25s25 seconds ago
Nurmi asks DeMarte if Geffner's 30 years experience in domestic violence amounts to anything. #jodiarias
 
Again nurmi is such a azz!! A boring one at that!!!!
 
Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 42s42 seconds ago
"You're testifying to something you know nothing about..." - Nurmi. "That's not accurate." - Dr. D #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi suggest DeMarte is testifying on things she knows nothing aboutDeMarte straight face goes "Not true" #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
#jodiarias defense:"You are biased and testifying to something you know nothing about."DeMarte:"That's not correct." #Fox10Phx

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 56s56 seconds ago
DeMarte says she never used certain test. Nurmi: How she can say the shrink w 30 yrs experience did it wrong. "He absolutely did it wrong."


 
How amazing that JSS allows Nurmi, an officer of the court, to behave so disrespectfully and inappropriately in her courtroom. By allowing hostile atmosphere , JSS encourages it. How can she be respected as a Judge? In all the trial weirdness, this is the one mind-boggling question I'll always have.
 
nikkinicole ‏@nikkiantonino 45s45 seconds ago
#jodiarias

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Two things I need to vent: 1) Nurmi is really pissing me off today with his treatment of Demarte, worse than his questioning of the bishop. So condescending and worse than Wilmott who you can dismiss like a yappy Chihuahua.

2) those of you who have been visiting the dark side, JAII: they seem to be giving away DT's strategies the day beforehand. I've seen it more than once now. They knew McGee's lies were coming in, and today they knew Nurmi would attack DeMarte's experience, hence the disgusting "Totdoc" label, and that Jodi was "protecting her family from abuse". Does Maria feed them tweets???
 
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 26s27 seconds ago
Nurmi asks if DeMarte ever testified that a woman DID have battered woman syndrome. The answer is never. #jodiairas

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 58s59 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks if DeMarte reviewed Fonseca's notes and the relationship between TA and JADeMarte- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 32s33 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi- She said it was secret and underground and TA was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 34s35 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says Jodi had a struggle between her morals and this sexual behavior like Travis did...DeMarte agreed #jodiarias #3tvarias


 
Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 44s45 seconds ago
Nurmi asks De about Dr. F's Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde theory. Are we going to hear the word "T-Dogg" again?
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#jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 44s45 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
KN says well people said Jodi was stalking TA said she was sneaking in house. But these people didn't know they were having sex #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 32s33 seconds ago
Nurmi says people who were saying #JodiArias stalked #Travis didn't know he was having a sexual relationship with the convicted killer.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 47s48 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte says a sexual relationship yes but some knew he was in a relationship with her #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 35s36 seconds ago
Nurmi says that Alexander calling, texting, having phone sex, real sex with #jodiarias is not consistent with not wanting her in his life.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 31s32 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
KN- TA was telling people he didn't want JA around but he was contacting her. DeMarte says TA didn't like her intrusive behavior #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 28s28 seconds ago
DeMarte says #TravisAlexanser didn't want #JodiArias intrusive behavior.


 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 10s11 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Now Nurmi puts up the chart Geff did on TA's text messages with women #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 15s15 seconds ago
De says although TA did contact #JodiArias sometimes, he found her overwhelming.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 59s59 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Now the Reagan text with TA about the stalking....KN says yet phone sex happened between JA and TA #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 56s56 seconds ago
Nurmi puts texts graphic of TA texting other ladies on screen. #jodiarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 21s21 seconds ago
Nurmi: Alexander telling women that #jodiarias is stalking him and she wants her gone, then calls her for phone sex and invites for real sex
 
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