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That wolf is beautiful, look at those eyes. I’ve never seen a black wolf. I’m thinking Jack Nicholson in “Wolf” I would love to hear more from the one took that photo. If I were to come across something like that while hiking I would be so scared.
 
Sweet Jane(thedood), I know what you are saying, Even as I sit here thinking maybe my problems aren't that hard to handle, I know as soon as I need a little "help me out" time it will be here. This is actually better than any open-person therapy session or meeting, at least for me. I like the different opinions and options, and the fact that others know what is in up u gut-feelings whe I just don't have the right words. Everything you said is so true.

Dmacky, Ricki, and Kensie .... I just don't have a clue toward answers, but I know you are all loving and caring parents who want your kids to be happy and productive. It just tears you up inside. I know from my own experiences, that I can't hand out money for treatments or bills or anything my son may need. I am grateful that he at least has done well for the most part with financial responsibilities. We can only pray they find their way without harming themselves or others. I see the health issues in my son that are a result of too much alcoholic consumption .... I have on occasion asked why he is shaky -- he knows I know and care what he is doing. Maybe his recent hints at "wanting to stop" are a remote possibility. I just don't hold my breath on it, though.


I have never seen or heard of a black wolf, ever! Is it rare? I a, going to read the article linked with that photo -- maybe it will tell me the answer to that.
 
I do understand Ricki, as I never knew my daughter was on anything either until I asked where all her money was going.
$110.00 a week is what gripes my :butthead: It's rEdiculous! That's a house payment! Maybe it doesn't cost that much were you live? I just can't wrap my head around the price. I absolutely meant no disrespect to you, or to your daughter :hug:

Dmacky, I have no idea what she pays or if she even has to. I would love to see her off it completly. I just don't think that will happen. Like I said before, I am so grateful she is alive. Her situation was not good back then.
 
I do understand Ricki, as I never knew my daughter was on anything either until I asked where all her money was going.
$110.00 a week is what gripes my :butthead: It's rEdiculous! That's a house payment! Maybe it doesn't cost that much were you live? I just can't wrap my head around the price. I absolutely meant no disrespect to you, or to your daughter :hug:

Not to change the subject or diminish the importance of this discussion, but where do you live that $110/wk (x4) = a house payment? I'm not being flippant; I would sincerely like to know where someone could live and have such low mortgage payments. Looking forward to retiring someplace cheaper, so TIA.
 
May 14 is the one hundred and thirty third day of the year.




1643 - Louis XIV became King of France at age 4 on the death of his father, Louis XIII.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Njjd6R6d0&feature=player_detailpage


1796 - The first successful smallpox vaccination is given by English physician Eward Jenner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VK7tr3AMia0


1897 - Guglielmo Marconi made the first communication by wireless telegraph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HxUPXUijuT4


1904 - 1st Olympics in St. Louis Mo. United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VMLTQIfvehE


1908 - 1st passenger flight in an airplane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2Jr7BlJsd7I


1927 - "Ain't She Sweet?" hits #1 on the pop singles chart by Ben Bernie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SD3QRSZ3WGM


1942 - The U.S. Congress passes act to establish the The Women's Auxiliary Army Corps (WAAC).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HxsIL2uGQE0



1948 - Israel proclaims it's an independent state, as British rule in Palestine came to an end. (God's clock for the end of the age resumes, Israel is back in her land, surrounded by the same enemies today)



[video=youtube;nNWgfei6wO8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNWgfei6wO8&feature=player_detailpage[/video]









1951 - Ernie Kovacs Show, TV Variety debut on NBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=47fKjv6MJ1w


1955 - Bill Haley and his Comets' "Rock Around The Clock" enters the charts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZgdufzXvjqw


1961 - Floyd Cramer was at No.1 on the UK singles chart with 'On The Rebound.' The US singer's only UK No.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UKwq6UW9bnU


1963 - During a UK tour, The Beatles performed at the Royalty Theatre in Chester.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K5aRRq9mquo


1964 - Jan & Dean, "Little Old Lady (From Pasadena)" is recoreded by Jan & Dean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5MdZN5L1WQ8


1966 - For the record ninth time in three years, the Kingsmen's hit version of "Louie Louie" enters the Billboard singles charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4V1p1dM3snQ


1969 - Last Chevrolet Corvair built . Ralph Nader was a happy camper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_rbyKTILW-w


1973 - The United States launched Skylab 1, its first manned space station is launched by the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUugbcIE1I&feature=player_detailpage


1982 - The Clash released the album "Combat Rock."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...MU9bQ&list=PL3yU9_VEHVXblF_RDrNtGka2g9JykGJH-


1986 - Institute for War documents publishes Anne Franks complete diary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9VGDMaWM5mM


1998 - Seinfeld airs it's final episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo2...lpage&list=PLGcxyky6KuzRzaUfkhGZVgI5PHdAYLR0Z
 
Thanks for the links....going now to read about it. Will let you know what I think :) ((((Hugs))))

Dear Coffeejunkie girl, just to be sure, this is a totally no pressure situation. Did I forget to mention I have absolutely no first hand knowledge, whatsoever, zilch, nada, on CBT.... :rolleyes:
Of course if you do get to the point you want to share with us what you think about it please do. :). I would more than welcome your take on it. :loveyou: (((hug)))
 
Thanks Pages. I love your posts. My first car was a screaming yellow corvair and I had a smiley plate on the front of the car. Screaming yellow on the outside and red interior!!! LOL!!
 
Isn't he handsome! What an awesome sight for the camera to have captured!

ETA: The accompanying article is very interesting. It makes me feel bad that wildlife has become so politicized. Who are the "civilized" parties in this discourse? I can only imagine that if animals could talk they would laugh at us humans for how easily we lose sight of reality.
 
So sorry to hear so many of my WS friends have endured the nightmare that is the addiction of a loved one. About 12 years ago,
my ex husband was in a bad construction accident, he was freely given many opiates for his chronic pain. When that jig was up he went to getting his pills off the streets.
Enter our several years in and out of rehab facilities... where like others we were told he had about an 8% chance of making it at staying clean, and we, his family were to expect relapses. I too felt like that was his golden ticket to just keep messing up... and he sure punched that ticket many times....
From the pills he bought off the streets he one day stumbled upon crack cocaine.... he has battled that addiction ever since. It is so heartbreaking to see this man... my sons father... such a shell of the man he use to be.
He had been doing somewhat well the past few months, then a couple of weeks ago he disappeared on a Friday night, the next Saturday and Sunday he was having a hard time breathing, Monday morning he called his mother and she took him to the ER... they admitted him with an enlarged heart, fluid in his lungs and a leaky mitral valve.. he was discharged after a couple of days and is waiting his follow up visit... all those years abuse have finally taken its toll on him... about an hour ago I received a call from him telling me he had another little "episode " and would I come take him to the hospital if it continued... I tried to talk him into going in but it sounds like you all know that from past experience that they are going to do what they are going to do... so.. as I sit here now I am waiting his call for someone to take him to the hospital... I know it sounds cold and uncaring ... but its not... I am very concerned , but I know I cannot make him do anything... God knows if that were true my family would not be in such a dysfunctional state and the drugs would have ended years ago...
I am so sick of the devastation that addiction leaves in its wake...
God bless you all who are dealing with it...
 
That wolf is beautiful, look at those eyes. I’ve never seen a black wolf. I’m thinking Jack Nicholson in “Wolf” I would love to hear more from the one took that photo. If I were to come across something like that while hiking I would be so scared.

It came from a Game Camera near North Bend, Washington, up where my lil' bro lives. He has the usual deer and BEAR that go through his property. There's been an ongoing debate on whether native North American wolves got the solid black from domestic dogs or if they actually had that color gene before domestics came into the picture. Black wolves in Europe are genuine wolves. Either way, it's awesome!
He sent this to me around April 23 this year...

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And this was from last summer off his deck......

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Mind you, this is in his back yard! The bears came through a about 2:00 am and went through his neighbors trash. He took those bear pics from his 2nd story. His dog was going nuts! He's a critter person like me.
 
So sorry to hear so many of my WS friends have endured the nightmare that is the addiction of a loved one. About 12 years ago,
my ex husband was in a bad construction accident, he was freely given many opiates for his chronic pain. When that jig was up he went to getting his pills off the streets.
Enter our several years in and out of rehab facilities... where like others we were told he had about an 8% chance of making it at staying clean, and we, his family were to expect relapses. I too felt like that was his golden ticket to just keep messing up... and he sure punched that ticket many times....
From the pills he bought off the streets he one day stumbled upon crack cocaine.... he has battled that addiction ever since. It is so heartbreaking to see this man... my sons father... such a shell of the man he use to be.
He had been doing somewhat well the past few months, then a couple of weeks ago he disappeared on a Friday night, the next Saturday and Sunday he was having a hard time breathing, Monday morning he called his mother and she took him to the ER... they admitted him with an enlarged heart, fluid in his lungs and a leaky mitral valve.. he was discharged after a couple of days and is waiting his follow up visit... all those years abuse have finally taken its toll on him... about an hour ago I received a call from him telling me he had another little "episode " and would I come take him to the hospital if it continued... I tried to talk him into going in but it sounds like you all know that from past experience that they are going to do what they are going to do... so.. as I sit here now I am waiting his call for someone to take him to the hospital... I know it sounds cold and uncaring ... but its not... I am very concerned , but I know I cannot make him do anything... God knows if that were true my family would not be in such a dysfunctional state and the drugs would have ended years ago...
I am so sick of the devastation that addiction leaves in its wake...
God bless you all who are dealing with it...

Cubbeegirl, been there, done that. Do what you have to do. Addiction makes everyone, except the addict, hit "pause" on their life. Why? Because we love that person. We miss that person, we can't see our lives without that person.
But the only thing of importance to them is their addiction. They don't feel the heartache we go through.

Have to raise my hand about methadone too. The 1st ex has been on it for about 6 years now, has Hep C and a liver like a sieve. My daughter has been on and off it also, many times.
My ex said 30 something years ago that he'd never go on methadone because it was more addictive than heroin. I guess when you get in your mid 50's, something's gotta give. He recently turned 60.
What's terrible is heroin is dirt cheap, and people who have been cut off there pain meds hit the streets, pain meds are expensive out there, so they give the old college try and end up addicted to heroin.
 
Hugs to my sidebar friends. Addiction is hell.
 
So sorry to hear so many of my WS friends have endured the nightmare that is the addiction of a loved one. About 12 years ago,
my ex husband was in a bad construction accident, he was freely given many opiates for his chronic pain. When that jig was up he went to getting his pills off the streets.
Enter our several years in and out of rehab facilities... where like others we were told he had about an 8% chance of making it at staying clean, and we, his family were to expect relapses. I too felt like that was his golden ticket to just keep messing up... and he sure punched that ticket many times....
From the pills he bought off the streets he one day stumbled upon crack cocaine.... he has battled that addiction ever since. It is so heartbreaking to see this man... my sons father... such a shell of the man he use to be.
He had been doing somewhat well the past few months, then a couple of weeks ago he disappeared on a Friday night, the next Saturday and Sunday he was having a hard time breathing, Monday morning he called his mother and she took him to the ER... they admitted him with an enlarged heart, fluid in his lungs and a leaky mitral valve.. he was discharged after a couple of days and is waiting his follow up visit... all those years abuse have finally taken its toll on him... about an hour ago I received a call from him telling me he had another little "episode " and would I come take him to the hospital if it continued... I tried to talk him into going in but it sounds like you all know that from past experience that they are going to do what they are going to do... so.. as I sit here now I am waiting his call for someone to take him to the hospital... I know it sounds cold and uncaring ... but its not... I am very concerned , but I know I cannot make him do anything... God knows if that were true my family would not be in such a dysfunctional state and the drugs would have ended years ago...
I am so sick of the devastation that addiction leaves in its wake...
God bless you all who are dealing with it...

Oh Cubbeegirl, my heart goes out to you.

If I read you right, you care, but also realize he's attempting to manipulate you. That's a hallmark of addicts (and other people with maladaptive behaviors).

I wish you could channel the stoicism of my New England antecedents: They were supportive and sympathetic -- up to a point. Typically, New Englanders (generalizing here) don't put up with a lot of self-pity, and expect everyone to be self-reliant. It's a delicate dance and sometimes might come off as being cold, but I have come to see the wisdom of their ways.

Finding the balance between being sympathetic yet stalwart is a good skill to develop. Please keep your heart in check and let your logical side help you decide what actions to take going forward.

Wishing you well...
 
Cubbeegirl, been there, done that. Do what you have to do. Addiction makes everyone, except the addict, hit "pause" on their life. Why? Because we love that person. We miss that person, we can't see our lives without that person.
But the only thing of importance to them is their addiction. They don't feel the heartache we go through.

Have to raise my hand about methadone too. The 1st ex has been on it for about 6 years now, has Hep C and a liver like a sieve. My daughter has been on and off it also, many times.
My ex said 30 something years ago that he'd never go on methadone because it was more addictive than heroin. I guess when you get in your mid 50's, something's gotta give. He recently turned 60.
What's terrible is heroin is dirt cheap, and people who have been cut off there pain meds hit the streets, pain meds are expensive out there, so they give the old college try and end up addicted to heroin.


So sad but true.. I just came back from taking my ex to the ER..his heart rate was 220.. They shocked him twice to get his heartbeat regulated and he is now in ICU...so sad , and it's true, we miss the person they were, but they are so wrapped up in getting high or looking for a way to get high that they don't miss us...
I was shocked to learn in one rehab stint that many opiate addicts also become addicted to crack for that very reason...it's available , it's cheap ...and makes them not care about their pain....
I thought I was over the heartbreak, but tonight my heart is broken for what my once really amazing husband has let his life become...
So glad I have you all to understand.
 
So sorry to hear so many of my WS friends have endured the nightmare that is the addiction of a loved one. About 12 years ago,
my ex husband was in a bad construction accident, he was freely given many opiates for his chronic pain. When that jig was up he went to getting his pills off the streets.
Enter our several years in and out of rehab facilities... where like others we were told he had about an 8% chance of making it at staying clean, and we, his family were to expect relapses. I too felt like that was his golden ticket to just keep messing up... and he sure punched that ticket many times....
From the pills he bought off the streets he one day stumbled upon crack cocaine.... he has battled that addiction ever since. It is so heartbreaking to see this man... my sons father... such a shell of the man he use to be.
He had been doing somewhat well the past few months, then a couple of weeks ago he disappeared on a Friday night, the next Saturday and Sunday he was having a hard time breathing, Monday morning he called his mother and she took him to the ER... they admitted him with an enlarged heart, fluid in his lungs and a leaky mitral valve.. he was discharged after a couple of days and is waiting his follow up visit... all those years abuse have finally taken its toll on him... about an hour ago I received a call from him telling me he had another little "episode " and would I come take him to the hospital if it continued... I tried to talk him into going in but it sounds like you all know that from past experience that they are going to do what they are going to do... so.. as I sit here now I am waiting his call for someone to take him to the hospital... I know it sounds cold and uncaring ... but its not... I am very concerned , but I know I cannot make him do anything... God knows if that were true my family would not be in such a dysfunctional state and the drugs would have ended years ago...
I am so sick of the devastation that addiction leaves in its wake...
God bless you all who are dealing with it...

Bless you (((((HUGS)))))
 
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Arias letter to supporters: talks about prison life (short clip)

"Jodi Arias has sent a letter to her supporters from behind bars. FOX 10's Troy Hayden has this report. 5/14/15"

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/clip/11497788/arias-letter-to-supporters-talks-about-prison-life
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Behind Jodi's Letter (author of Behind the Words- Kim Anne Whittemore)

http://www.kimawhittemore.com/#!Behind-Jodis-Letter/c1jyg/555516320cf21fee138defe8

The letter (again :sheesh: )

http://www.kimawhittemore.com/#!blog/c1gw0
 
WHY NOT KILL HER
By #PaulSanders
#TravisAlexander & the Jodi Arias Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
DAY 32
“PERSPICUOUS EVIL”


http://www.the13thjurormd.com/perspicuous-evil-day-32-why-not-kill-her/
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WHY NOT KILL HER
By #PaulSanders
#TravisAlexander & the Jodi Arias Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
DAY 33
“THE UBIQUITOUS DR. DEATH”


http://www.the13thjurormd.com/the-ubiquitous-dr-death-day-33-why-not-kill-her/
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WHY NOT KILL HER
By #PaulSanders
#TravisAlexander & the Jodi Arias Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
DAY 34
“JE NE SUIS PAS LADY JUSTICE”


http://www.the13thjurormd.com/je-ne-suis-pas-lady-justice-day-34-why-not-kill-her/
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WHY NOT KILL HER
By #PaulSanders
#TravisAlexander & the Jodi Arias Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
DAY 35
“LA CUCARACHA”


http://www.the13thjurormd.com/la-cucaracha-day-35-why-not-kill-her/
 
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