Sidebar Discussion #12

[Jen38]

Just read that Jeffrey Dahmer's childhood home in Ohio is for sale.

Casey likes Ohio, doesn't she?

Just sayin'...

Drew Peterson might be looking for a new wife if he gets acquitted...wouldnt they make a cute couple?

Please don't wish either of those two on my state...an isolated island for two in the atlantic sounds better.....during hurricane season lease:

 

[RR0004]

Thanks, Okie for posting this...

Casey Anthony: What will her conditions be?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...asey-anthony-what-will-her-conditions-be.html

I hope the general public lets Miss Anthony know how little control she has.

 

[RR0004]

I have said it before, and will say it again: Defense attorneys throughout time have helped guilty clients go free. It is their job to get the best deal they can for their client and sometimes that means a guilty person going free on a technicality; other times that means saying or doing things in hope of raising doubt. The difference I see in this case, however, is that the tactics that the defense felt had to be used did not make any of them sick or disgusted. Most attorneys who help get a guilty person off are not happy about it...they do not go out and celebrate when a killer walks free. They often walk away from their client once their job is finished, and never look back.

I remember the psych doc whose anxiety over the thought of having to be "the vector for lies" in this case rose to the point of making him physically ill. That doc did his job and wrote the required report based on what the killer had told him, but he did not feel good about any of it. He saw KC for what she is: a killer without remorse, a person who is willing to say or do whatever it takes to put the blame on someone else.

Baez et al could have done their job and then walked away from this killer. Instead, they choose to champion her to this day. She is a child killer and they know it, and they are not bothered by that. As her representatives at trial they had no choice but to do whatever they could to assist her legally. But since trial they are defending her by choice, and that speaks volumes to me about their character and integrity...or I should say, lack of.

BBM- I couldn't agree more. From growing up in the home of a defense attorney, I saw firsthand how it wore on my father. He was ready to retire at 48 after his first heart attack.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I hope she moves to Hollywood. TMZ and ROL can be her best friend. She can make money by "tipping" off the photogs ... that'll work for awhile. Then, like most of them she will self destruct. I am betting on it.

 

[Frigga]

I really like Hal. He has this entire families number!

 

[OEJ]

Amazing, wasn't it that the A's scrapped a car just because of some old Pizza box/garbage smell...?

I think George scrapped that car to spite Casey. I think he went to Ashton to congratulate his win for the same reason. He does not forgive Casey for what happened to his beloved granddaughter.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Amazing, wasn't it that the A's scrapped a car just because of some old Pizza box/garbage smell...?

I thought they did it so no one but them, got any money off of Caylee's coffin. A rolling crime scene.

I wonder if George made sure that it was savaged and crushed? I mean just ordering the junkyard to not sell anything off of it right?

I wonder when parts of the car show up on eBay.

 

[Frigga]

I think George scrapped that car to spite Casey. I think he went to Ashton to congratulate his win for the same reason. He does not forgive Casey for what happened to his beloved granddaughter.

... but maybe instead of doing things to spite Casey he should have actually stood up for his granddaughter and told the truth... the whole truth. He knew about the fights and animosity between Cindy and Casey... he knew the stuff Casey pulled as a child. He could have admitted to her stealing EVERYONE IN HER WAKE BLIND... and so on, and so on, and so on. George won't get a pass from me, not in this lifetime. He spent Caylee's entire memorial begging the public for love for the daughter he spites. What a poor, poor excuse of a human. I won't even call him a man, cuz in my book he is not. He cow tows to Cindy and her sickness and contributes to the enabling. I feel nothing but spite myself for George. In fact, I would cut off my nose to spite my face just to make the point about him!

 

[FaerieB]

I thought they did it so no one but them, got any money off of Caylee's coffin. A rolling crime scene.

I wonder if George made sure that it was savaged and crushed? I mean just ordering the junkyard to not sell anything off of it right?

I wonder when parts of the car show up on eBay.

The car was crushed. There were pictures of it at the time, and the crime-scene tape was still visible in the pictures.

 

[2goldfish]

BBM- I couldn't agree more. From growing up in the home of a defense attorney, I saw firsthand how it wore on my father. He was ready to retire at 48 after his first heart attack.

I'm so sorry for him and others like him. I get the whole upholding rights and all that being a very important job to have, and in a perfect would it should be done by someone with a conscience that does it very well...BUT I can see how, with a conscience, it could tear up someone's soul and quickly.

I could not bear it if it was me.

 

[rossva]

Not exactly true. The day her probation ended, she could have gone to any state and gotten a driver's license there. Who says after her probation ended (or was within 30 days of ending) she didn't establish residence in another state?

She also could have gotten an address and a drivers license in any state before her probation started. While by Florida law, if she did that, she needed to turn it in and get a Florida license within 30 days, but would you trust her to have done that? If she wasn't doing any driving (which she most likely wasn't doing while on probation) who in Florida would know she had an out of state license?

Just because some one is a resident of, and is working in Florida does not mean they are required to have a Florida drivers license. That is only a requirement if they are driving in Florida.

If not driving (which she most likely wasn't doing while on probation) there is no requirement that on has a Florida driver's license. Many people that do not drive have only a state issued no drivers license id, rather than a drivers license.

She is required to have a Florida license - http://www.123driving.com/drivers-handbook1.shtml#renewlic she has been resident more than 6 months
and is 'working' there.

 

[Mama-cita]

Not exactly true. The day her probation ended, she could have gone to any state and gotten a driver's license there. Who says after her probation ended (or was within 30 days of ending) she didn't establish residence in another state?

She also could have gotten an address and a drivers license in any state before her probation started. While by Florida law, if she did that, she needed to turn it in and get a Florida license within 30 days, but would you trust her to have done that? If she wasn't doing any driving (which she most likely wasn't doing while on probation) who in Florida would know she had an out of state license?

Just because some one is a resident of, and is working in Florida does not mean they are required to have a Florida drivers license. That is only a requirement if they are driving in Florida.

If not driving (which she most likely wasn't doing while on probation) there is no requirement that on has a Florida driver's license. Many people that do not drive have only a state issued no drivers license id, rather than a drivers license.

Most if not ALL states require proof of residency for a license. The felon wouldn't meet the requirement anywhere except Florida.

 

[rossva]

Yes, you can have both a Florida State Id and a Florida Driver's License. Depends when the two were issued. I have both.

"Florida driver licenses and identification cards remain valid for customers currently holding both. However, when you apply for a replacement or renewal of either, you will have to choose which card to retain. We can no longer issue you both."

https://ffdhsmv.custhelp.com/app/an...se and florida state id card at the same time

I wonder if she has a valid Florida ID? Maybe thats why she hasn't renewed her license? Cause in FL, you can't have both...

 

[rossva]

Florida does not issue non resident driver's licences. I believe they stopped that in 2009.

BBM If she is driving...... why would you assume, while she has been on probation, she has been driving. How would Florida know if she had, say an Ohio drivers license, unless they caught her driving with it?

As far as I know dmv's don't have reciprocity with other states as far as who does and does not have a drivers license.

If she is driving in FL she has to have a FL license. It doesn't matter if she has a license from any other state. Even if your not a resident of FL, if you work here even temp you have to have a non-resident drivers license.

 

[rossva]

Do we know where she is living now? Or in the 30 days since her last report? Plenty of time to esablish residency in any state. Or where she was between the time she was released and then had to return to serve her probation? Again, plenty of time to establish residency some where other than Florida.

Seems pretty easy to establish residency in Ohio.

Residency Documents

If the primary and secondary documents presented do not establish the applicant's current Ohio residence street address, the applicant shall present additional documents containing the applicant's name and current address within Ohio to establish that address to the satisfaction of the registrar or deputy registrar.

The following documents shall be acceptable if the applicant's current Ohio residence street address is included in the document.

■Insurance Policy - Any current and valid automobile liability, premises liability, or life insurance policy.
■Bank Statement - Any checking or savings account statement, including on-line statements, dated within the last 60 days.
■Child Support Check Stub - From the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services with the name and address of the applicant.
■Income Tax Return Filing - Copy of federal or Ohio income tax return filing not more than 18 months old, with proof of filing.
■Certified Copy of Court Order - Must be court order of probation, order of parole, or order of mandatory release.
■School Records - Must contain satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and relationship of the parent or guardian to the child applicant.
■Certified Statement of Residency - In the case of a dependent child, the BMV may accept a certified statement of residency from a child's parent or guardian, signed in the presence of a BMV official. Satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and relationship of the the parent or guardian to the child applicant is also required.
■Certified Statement of Residency - In the case of a married person, the BMV may accept a certified statement of residency from the applicant's spouse, signed in the presence of a BMV official. Satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and marital relationship is also required.
■Installment Loan Contract - From a bank or other financial institution.
■Major Credit Card Bill - Statement – or major retail store credit card statement with Ohio street address.
■Mortgage Account - Or proof of home ownership.
■Ohio Certificate Of Title
■Ohio Mail-in Renewal Notice
■Valid Ohio Voter Registration Card
■Paycheck Stub - Issued within the last six months.
■Professional License - Issued by an Ohio government agency.
■Property Tax Bill - Or receipt of payment.
■Hunting/Fishing License - Ohio resident hunting or fishing license valid during the current or previous year.
■Sales Tax or Business License - Must show Ohio residence address.
■Selective Service Registration Acknowledgement Card
■Certification of Residency - From a nursing home or homeless shelter on a form prescribed by the registrar for that purpose.
■Utility Bill - From an electric, telephone, water, sewer, cable, satellite, heating oil, or propane provider issued within the last 60 days.
■Concealed Carry Permit - Valid concealed carry weapons permit.
■Public Assistance Check Stub - Check stub, food stamp card, or letter on government letterhead (issued within the last 12 months), issued by a government public assistance agency.
■Social Security Administration Document – with Ohio street address
■TSA letter

Most if not ALL states require proof of residency for a license. The felon wouldn't meet the requirement anywhere except Florida.

 

[redkatrampant]

Thanks, Okie for posting this...

Casey Anthony: What will her conditions be?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...asey-anthony-what-will-her-conditions-be.html

I hope the general public lets Miss Anthony know how little control she has.

Thanks RR. Just jumping off your post, not attacking you ( I have felt kinda snippy lately so I am trying to cover all bases. BIG HUGS )

From your link

Charles Greene, another Anthony attorney, said she met all the terms of probation while living secretly somewhere in Florida.

About that.
Um, no really she did not. She never got a job,or studied, or did anything that showed she was gonna be a productive part of society.

:moo: and all

 

[redkatrampant]

Do we know where she is living now? Or in the 30 days since her last report? Plenty of time to esablish residency in any state. Or where she was between the time she was released and then had to return to serve her probation? Again, plenty of time to establish residency some where other than Florida.

Snipped respectfully and BBM.

If for nothing else, thank you for clarifying that. I saw that you had referred to her being released, and also saw 30 days and I was all *WHO SET HER LOOSE EARLY???*

And then I reread things and calmed down.

 

[MaryAnn]

Do we know where she is living now? Or in the 30 days since her last report? Plenty of time to esablish residency in any state. Or where she was between the time she was released and then had to return to serve her probation? Again, plenty of time to establish residency some where other than Florida.

Seems pretty easy to establish residency in Ohio.

Residency Documents

If the primary and secondary documents presented do not establish the applicant's current Ohio residence street address, the applicant shall present additional documents containing the applicant's name and current address within Ohio to establish that address to the satisfaction of the registrar or deputy registrar.

The following documents shall be acceptable if the applicant's current Ohio residence street address is included in the document.

■Insurance Policy - Any current and valid automobile liability, premises liability, or life insurance policy.
■Bank Statement - Any checking or savings account statement, including on-line statements, dated within the last 60 days.
■Child Support Check Stub - From the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services with the name and address of the applicant.
■Income Tax Return Filing - Copy of federal or Ohio income tax return filing not more than 18 months old, with proof of filing.
■Certified Copy of Court Order - Must be court order of probation, order of parole, or order of mandatory release.
■School Records - Must contain satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and relationship of the parent or guardian to the child applicant.
■Certified Statement of Residency - In the case of a dependent child, the BMV may accept a certified statement of residency from a child's parent or guardian, signed in the presence of a BMV official. Satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and relationship of the the parent or guardian to the child applicant is also required.
■Certified Statement of Residency - In the case of a married person, the BMV may accept a certified statement of residency from the applicant's spouse, signed in the presence of a BMV official. Satisfactory proof of identity, Ohio residency, and marital relationship is also required.
■Installment Loan Contract - From a bank or other financial institution.
■Major Credit Card Bill - Statement – or major retail store credit card statement with Ohio street address.
■Mortgage Account - Or proof of home ownership.
■Ohio Certificate Of Title
■Ohio Mail-in Renewal Notice
■Valid Ohio Voter Registration Card
■Paycheck Stub - Issued within the last six months.
■Professional License - Issued by an Ohio government agency.
■Property Tax Bill - Or receipt of payment.
■Hunting/Fishing License - Ohio resident hunting or fishing license valid during the current or previous year.
■Sales Tax or Business License - Must show Ohio residence address.
■Selective Service Registration Acknowledgement Card
■Certification of Residency - From a nursing home or homeless shelter on a form prescribed by the registrar for that purpose.
■Utility Bill - From an electric, telephone, water, sewer, cable, satellite, heating oil, or propane provider issued within the last 60 days.
■Concealed Carry Permit - Valid concealed carry weapons permit.
■Public Assistance Check Stub - Check stub, food stamp card, or letter on government letterhead (issued within the last 12 months), issued by a government public assistance agency.
■Social Security Administration Document – with Ohio street address
■TSA letter

I can guarantee that <modsnip> doesn't have any of the docs above. Remember she is not a contributing member of society, she is what you call <modsnip> society. I can guarantee she will never hold a decent job or do anything to redeem her reputation. All this time while on probation she hasn't looked for a job, got any kind of therapy or done anything at all to improve herself. Unless you call the piercings an improvement. LOL. She probably thinks she'll get by on her looks. GAG!!!

<modsnip> :floorlaugh:

 

[MissJames]

Is there anyone still posting on Caylee's forum that had experience or volunteered with TES?

 

[TorisMom003]

I can guarantee that <modsnip> doesn't have any of the docs above. Remember she is not a contributing member of society, she is what you call a <modsnip> society. I can guarantee she will never hold a decent job or do anything to redeem her reputation. All this time while on probation she hasn't looked for a job, got any kind of therapy or done anything at all to improve herself. Unless you call the piercings an improvement. LOL. She probably thinks she'll get by on her looks. GAG!!!

<modsnip> :floorlaugh:

I went down that list and said "nope, that one doesn't apply to Casey" to every single one of them. So I'd say it isn't easy at all for her to get a DL in Ohio.