Sidebar Discussion #2

[strawberry]

FCA will get her interview and it will be with Barbara. (IMO)

The dirty little secret about paying a large amount of money for a picture was exposed when Paris Hilton got out of jail. Barbara was in the mix and she lied. She said they NEVER pay for interviews while they were involved in negotiations over how how much they were willing to pay Paris. Paris' mother was upset because she considered Walters a friend and thought the bid was too low (one million). The publicity got so bad Paris ended up on Larry King for free.

After seeing it with my own eyes (Barbara and JB) it's a done deal. Barbara is morally bankrupt and has been for quite some time. I would not believe a word out of her mouth. The only question now is how much they're willing to pay.

The only reason Walters told JB not to hug her was because she didn't want that type of picture splashed all over the news the next day.

IMO IMO IMO

I finally got up the stomach to watch the footage from when JB was on the view (because I wanted to see him bood). At the end BW was sucking up to him big time.."you're ALWAYS welcme here". Now we know why. Well we knew why but now we are SURE why.

Thing is, if they pay FCA for an interview within the next 10 mo, FCA will be required to report it to probation, correct? That's probably one of the reasons they fought so hard against probation. I hope the Fl bar is taking notes for their investigation.

 

[Intermezzo]

In 1974 I was 13 yrs old. Still more afraid of going to war than trying to understand it. I was just to young. I did work with a guy who enlisted in the US Marines in 1975 when he was 17. He thought that the war was over. Not quite. He got sent to Vietnam, Da Nang. While on patrol outside of the base, he stepped on a mine. Lost part of his right foot. He got sent to a hospital ship offshore and was still on board when his buddy's did the evacuation of the embassy in Saigon. I watched "Get Smart" when I was a kid so I've always gotten your screen name. I wonder if it was shown in Canada also? LG did you watch "Get Smart" as a kid?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058805/

bbm
Not LG but I can answer that since I did grow up in Canada not Vancouver,BC but in Ontario. We moved to Orlando over 10 years ago.

Yes, Get Smart was shown in Canada.
In Canada we receive, not only Canadian channels but, American channels as well..

We get ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/HLN etc... and more..from the local US affiliate depending on our location

 

[Horace Finklestein]

:floorlaugh: Poor old Jose. Rejected.
TMZ sources reveal Casey is not ready to 'tell her tale' just yet. Quite a 'tale' it will be I'm sure

Haha let's see...we heard her tale before the trial, during the trial, now we get to hear the "really, really, super serious tale - for reals this time, promise!" version. It's like when they keep releasing different versions of dvds...director's cut, theatrical cut, special edition, special version edition.

 

[rossva]

Not gory at all. More of a psychological view, the story is told through the eyes of his "Appropriate Adult." Very well done, imo.

rossva, does 'Appropriate Adult' focus much on the awful gory details of the case, or is it more to do with the psychology of the characters and the police? I am very squeamish about serial killers and their crimes; I generally can't bear to read or hear any details about them, and I hate gratuitous gruesome accounts of terrible crimes. But I am interested in how the police deal with them, and also I'm a huge fan of McNulty. It is weird that they both have the same surname.

 

[MsMacGyver]

I'm with you 2goldfish - there is no way I could watch the reading of the verdict again - even with the sound off. I was physically and emotionally blown apart that day - and it's taken awhile to do the healing needed - even with that - I still feel like bits of my psyche are still barely glued back together again and are marked - extremely fragile.

While I believe I feel with my heart, I think in terms of actions, deeds and statistics - and that's the logical part of me. I start with the big picture, and then complete the picture tiny step by tiny step.

When I first came into this case - the day we all saw OCA strutting along in the blue hoodie -my reaction was WTH is going on here? While she sure looked hinky if not guilty, I like to base my decisions on the facts, then run it through my emotional senses - to see if I can live with what the facts have told me.

I don't like to think mother's kill their children. But the statistics tell me they do - so my emotional side says - who am I then to say they don't. It's weird because a lot of my decisions I don't even "like" - but there they are. Too based on evidence and fact to say they are "untrue".

People lie, but forensics and evidence don't. And there is no way this side of heaven OCA is innocent - no matter what lala land the jurors live in. Maybe the issue was these 12 people were too cut off from the real world, and that's why they decided the way they did. Many said they do not read the newspaper, do not watch the news and seem to be living on their own little fantasy island. Don't know, don't know, don't know, can't explain it...:dunno:

I came into this case wondering why did this child die? I got my answers. I'm still here because I still asking why? But this question is about the jury...Why? Why did you not give Caylee the justice she deserved?

I have not read or heard or seen anything that even comes close to answering that question. It's weird - I accept the verdict as final - but...WHY???

LG
The past week I have been flying by the seat of my pants, trying to stay in touch here and get the house ready for winter. I didn't want your wonderful post to get lost in here without hearing from me.....:heartbeat:

I tend not to visit profiles here. Although I've been a member since 2008, there was a period of time I wasn't able to sit at my computer too long. Since coming back I saw some old faces and new. I have gotten to know posters from what they post, at times not even thinking gender...:crazy:

You DO fit your screen name nicely, your logical side apparent and your emotional side coming through loud and clear also. I saw right away how you use both sides, much better at times than I, to reach your conclusions/opinions. If anyone has read enough of my posts, and they know who MacGyver is, then they realize I fix things. Sometimes I fix leaky faucets, am experienced at wheeling a band aid and at times sense certain posters frustration with me....:ignore:

Sometimes I post after great thought and other times..by the seat of my pants. Sometimes from my heart, sometimes from my head. I can watch part of the verdict video, set aside my heart, put my emotions in check and do my best to "put myself in the subjects shoes". Whether it be the victim or the accused, I always try to look at the situation from a "fairness" approach...:scale:

If anyone knows enough about me by now, they know some of "my story".
People deal with their life experiences in different ways. I choose humor, if I feel the need for sympathy I have no problem taking five minutes out of my day to give myself a pity party, (anymore than 5 minutes is a waste of time)...and then I move on. The fact I have experienced some emotional abuse helps me to be able to shut the emotional part off, put it in the parking lot, and see what sometimes I don't want to for the purpose of finding something out.....:detective:

I have always written better than I speak. When I start writing like I speak, I have blank spots...:floorlaugh:...At times , when talking to someone...they leave shaking their head...asking..HuH?....:waitasec:
Some find it endearing...some confusing...:banghead:

You are VERY observant and this shows in your posts. You are an irreplaceable staple in this site, along with so many others. Your posts are ALWAYS thought provoking...:waitasec:..... as well as heart felt.........:heartbeat:


You are also a wild ride girl!...:rollercoaster:

ps...I took some time yesterday to check out some avatars...I will take BL's advice and go to CP user, look through some of those..I'll know it when I see it!......:idea:

If anyones interested..check out new photos on my profile page...pictures of my dogs...Just wanted to catch up with everyone...still working in CA BOA thread...I will have an opinion soon...stay tuned and now back to our regulary sceduled programming....:great:

 

[MsMacGyver]

Haha let's see...we heard her tale before the trial, during the trial, now we get to hear the "really, really, super serious tale - for reals this time, promise!" version. It's like when they keep releasing different versions of dvds...director's cut, theatrical cut, special edition, special version edition.

You hit the nail right on the head Horace.......:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[NavySubMom]

I cannot remember where exactly I read this or if I heard it on a TV show, it may have been Larry King talking about how the big-name TV interviews like himself and BW go about getting "The Get" it was called, but it stuck with me and it was indicated that BW is relentless trying to get a Big Interview, she sends flowers, big gifts, many personal phone calls, apparently dinners, she does not give up trying to get a Big Interview, and she does it in a personal way.

My wish is they could bump-up the print run of
Ashton's new book and get that book published and out into the mainstream before this interview, if indeed an interview is planned during November Sweeps, not sure what week that is......

So rumor is the Big Get Interview is w/Matt Lauer (JB/Geragos to New York for dinner w/NBC right after the verdict, JL recently pulled the plug on his FB saga of his experience with the A's), and now a "visual" of a dinner with JB, LKB, and BW. I cannot STAND LKB and her <self modsnipping> mouth and her <self modsnipping> nonsense spin.

IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[logicalgirl]

In 1974 I was 13 yrs old. Still more afraid of going to war than trying to understand it. I was just to young. I did work with a guy who enlisted in the US Marines in 1975 when he was 17. He thought that the war was over. Not quite. He got sent to Vietnam, Da Nang. While on patrol outside of the base, he stepped on a mine. Lost part of his right foot. He got sent to a hospital ship offshore and was still on board when his buddy's did the evacuation of the embassy in Saigon. I watched "Get Smart" when I was a kid so I've always gotten your screen name. I wonder if it was shown in Canada also? LG did you watch "Get Smart" as a kid?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058805/

You bet your sweet Bippie I did!

 

[MsMacGyver]

Considering the demographic and member profiles here at WS, there are probably not too many motor racing fans here but ..... I started watching the Indy Car race earlier, nodded off after a few laps and have awoken to the sad, shocking news that Brit driver Dan Wheldon was killed in a crash during the race.
Sympathies to Dan's family and friends. He was one of the best and a real favorite down here.
Life really is gone in the blink of an eye isn't it.

Ditto...I used to watch all the time...#88...Dale Jarrett was my guy...I still remember when Earnhart Sr. hit the wall...sad....:cry:

I hated to hear about this tragedy...these guys live life going 200 miles an hour with their butts on fire....great work if you have the desire but certainly dangerous...:sheesh:

 

[logicalgirl]

I cannot remember where exactly I read this or if I heard it on a TV show, it may have been Larry King talking about how the big-name TV interviews like himself and BW go about getting "The Get" it was called, but it stuck with me and it was indicated that BW is relentless trying to get a Big Interview, she sends flowers, big gifts, many personal phone calls, apparently dinners, she does not give up trying to get a Big Interview, and she does it in a personal way.

My wish is they could bump-up the print run of
Ashton's new book and get that book published and out into the mainstream before this interview, if indeed an interview is planned during November Sweeps, not sure what week that is......

So rumor is the Big Get Interview is w/Matt Lauer (JB/Geragos to New York for dinner w/NBC right after the verdict, JL recently pulled the plug on his FB saga of his experience with the A's), and now a "visual" of a dinner with JB, LKB, and BW. I cannot STAND LKB and her <self modsnipping> mouth and her <self modsnipping> nonsense spin.

IMO, MOO, etc.

Awww c'mon NavySubMom - LBK paid all that money for a facelift during the trial and I don't think she's had her 15 minutes since then has she? I'm not at all surprised LBK is trying to shoehorn herself into any television interview anywhere - anytime.

So offensive....

 

[2goldfish]

I trying not to picture brown-suited British public servants hiding in the back of a Mini with fish n chips and peering into peoples houses with a pair of binoculars.
And, sorry 2g but I HAVE to ask - :waitasec: if you don't have a tv, what's your furniture pointed at? :innocent:

each other! mostly...it's an odd shaped house, really long and narrow. LOL truth is, I mostly face the rain lamp....I redid it and took out the weird "children of the corn" that were inside and replaced it with flamingos, new fake plants, and (obviously) new oil

 

[logicalgirl]

I'm curious to know however based on the TMZ blurb, if OCA really isn't ready yet because she is sulking JB has really left her in the dust, while he's got in face in the news on other cases.

He's the one getting the interviews, he's the one travelling to Aruba and New York - I imagine she's not too pleased about that because after all - isn't this really all about her?

It's not fair that he gets to do all this stuff and be a "Somebody" and she has to hide out in some backwater with Dorothy and ignores her....Wah - Not Fair - Fisties....

 

[2goldfish]

I'm curious to know however based on the TMZ blurb, if OCA really isn't ready yet because she is sulking JB has really left her in the dust, while he's got in face in the news on other cases.

He's the one getting the interviews, he's the one travelling to Aruba and New York - I imagine she's not too pleased about that because after all - isn't this really all about her?

It's not fair that he gets to do all this stuff and be a "Somebody" and she has to hide out in some backwater with Dorothy and ignores her....Wah - Not Fair - Fisties....

ah well, that's because as morally bankrupt as JB is, his hands are clean of murder. she's just a two-bit nobody like all the other babykillers MOO

 

[strawberry]

I'm curious to know however based on the TMZ blurb, if OCA really isn't ready yet because she is sulking JB has really left her in the dust, while he's got in face in the news on other cases.

He's the one getting the interviews, he's the one travelling to Aruba and New York - I imagine she's not too pleased about that because after all - isn't this really all about her?

It's not fair that he gets to do all this stuff and be a "Somebody" and she has to hide out in some backwater with Dorothy and ignores her....Wah - Not Fair - Fisties....

I couldn't play it too loudly at work..he was asked twice how FCA is doing (who gives a &*&?) and it sounded like he ignored the question both times. Well the second one was at the end...might have been cut off. Did anyone hear an answer?

 

[logicalgirl]

I couldn't play it too loudly at work..he was asked twice how FCA is doing (who gives a &*&?) and it sounded like he ignored the question both times. Well the second one was at the end...might have been cut off. Did anyone hear an answer?

The question is....does he even really know? He's been awfully busy with his new Aruba case and all those social appearances....

 

[strawberry]

The question is....does he even really know? He's been awfully busy with his new Aruba case and all those social appearances....

Exactly! I thought I heard crickets...

 

[Azcrabcakes]

I watched the TMZ video a few times too - THANKS, LogicalGirl. I didn't see The View, but if BW was fawning over JB there, I wonder why she would disallow a good-bye hug? (Ugh, I would too, but I have never fawned over him. In fact he gives me the creeps). Why would she reject JB's hug now? Maybe its me, but I don't get it. Did he tick her off?

 

[LambChop]

I watched the TMZ video a few times too - THANKS, LogicalGirl. I didn't see The View, but if BW was fawning over JB there, I wonder why she would disallow a good-bye hug? (Ugh, I would too, but I have never fawned over him. In fact he gives me the creeps). Why would she reject JB's hug now? Maybe its me, but I don't get it. Did he tick her off?

Maybe JB has a figure in mind and she didn't meet it. It's like an addiction....just say no, Barbara. jmo

 

[NavySubMom]

I watched the TMZ video a few times too - THANKS, LogicalGirl. I didn't see The View, but if BW was fawning over JB there, I wonder why she would disallow a good-bye hug? (Ugh, I would too, but I have never fawned over him. In fact he gives me the creeps). Why would she reject JB's hug now? Maybe its me, but I don't get it. Did he tick her off?

IMO it was a tip-off/leak by someone (BW, ABC) to get the video of the wine-and-dine out to see if the public rage is still out there loud-and-clear against FCA and if there are still enough 'boycotters' for ABC to go forward. To "test the waters' so-to-speak. I see negative comments already on BW's FB page.

BW was certainly STERN in her NO NO NO DON'T DO IT to JB about him hugging her. Wonder if she realized how loudly she said that and that it would be picked up by the camera-man. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE IMAGE.

I don't think BW wanted a picture out there of her hugging JB. Not sure how it would do more damage than seeing her at a dinner with him/LKB, maybe she thinks the picture would be taken out of context and the RAGE AGAINST THE ABC/THE VIEW/BW MACHINE will begin.

IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[NavySubMom]

I am being really serious here....IS THIS NORMAL for a person's attorney, 3+ months after a trial, to still be involved with getting $$$ for his client ??? Maybe it is, I am trying to think of another case to compare this travesty to, coming up blank. I would think it would be some kind of PR representative for the actual person being sought..... but we know FCA will not have any kind of a PR person.

Bet FCA wishes SHE could have been the one at the play and the dinner with BW. She is probably madder than a wet hen that SHE can't bet the recipient of Matt Lauer and BW's fawning and wine and dinner and a play. She is stuck hiding out, and I am VERY GOOD with that!!

Maybe BW sent her a token box of chocolates or some flowers or something like a bag of cheetos.

IMO, MOO, etc.