Sidebar Discussion #8

[coco puff]

Darn...:maddening: Lunch time over - see y'all later. I'd really like to come back and find someone has written a whole scenario from stepping up to the mike for George to what happens until it's over.

Yes, we're all angry at George - enough so that some of us suspect he was in on a coverup. But we never do anything except comment over and over again. I'd like to hear some and then..and then.....and then...

Later my friends...:seeya:

... I love ya LG but I could not care LESS what happens to George after the ...and then part. George gets no sympathy from me period. Of course he did not do what FCA said, but he lied for his grand daughter's murderer which is a crime not to mention AWFUL. He is partly responsible for any outcome as a result. The ONLY reason I care about the accusations is because people might start believing that FCA is not guilty. Jose is using this as a deflection of the truth and that is what got FCA off. George set back and let it happen.

 

[bayouland]

Yup. But I fear something even more sinister. Like maybe JB hopes to drive George to suicide. And then JB would say it proves that George was a molester who couldn't live with what he has done to his daughter and granddaugher.

This situation could become way uglier than it is now if someone doesn't step up to the plate and challenge the spew, IMO.

That thought has crossed my mind too.

I believe Baez completely believes that Casey was molested.

 

[FLmom777]

I agree with your post. I do believe there is something going on especially since KC is due to be released in August. If he could manage to get GA enraged some may see GA as the evil molesting, murdering dad. Hope that is not what JB is trying to do but JB like KC seems to lack scruples..and I am being nice..

The timing leads me to believe that jb is working some angle. Piers Morgan councelling his appearance may have sidetracked him a bit. I too wonder if he is trying to get ga enraged to the point that he ends up attacking jb. I hope he is able to control it.

So far as the fca supporters, how can they keep saying ga took caylee and his the body? Only fca had the car, with the smell of decomp as testified to by ga, le, the tow lot operator, can in her 911 call, the dogs, etc. How can they simply ignore all of these?

Am I crazy for even questioning this?

 

[krkrjx]

Matt Morgan ‏@MattMorganESQ
Just filed interrogatories to find out how much money #CaseyAnthony has receieved from the #CayleeMarieAnthonyTrust

This will be most interesting........ I assume this "Trust" is the same as the recently-dissolved Caylee's Fund? but would they have written a check directly to FCA? I hardly think so, but maybe this will trigger some financial records to be publicly available from that Fund, maybe see the "actual" Phil donation?? I can't wait to see how the money in that Fund was "hidden" here and there and everywhere.......

Sounds like MM wants to know about any and all monies it received from the trust. Not just the Dr. Phil money. (Do we know for a fact that there were no other donations?)

 

[Nore]

Some people just crave attention any way they can get it, even the negative. It is still attention to them.

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Yeah she's right up there with Lizzie Borden!:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[NavySubMom]

Well, I'm waiting to see how long Baez' media tour lasts. If he keeps being asked the same questions and he gives the same answers, it won't last long.

I think any extended talk about George, pro or con any action he could take is only feeding into Baez recent feeding frenzy.

The man has a fierce temper, I'm sure he's doing everything he can not to lash out in public at this point. IMHO

bbm - I whole-heartedly agree, this is what JB wants the focus to be on now with FCA getting ready for her "coming out party" LOL after probation towards the end of August, GA and the molestation.

rumor has it JB/FCA still converse a lot, which I believe, she didn't sign over her attorney-client privilege for nothing, there is a method to JB's madness, and I think it was to get the focus RIGHT where it is and what everyone seems to be talking about, i.e.:

Poor Poor FCA being molested by GA, it put her into her imaginary little world, Poor Poor FCA,

Now I don't think many believe what JB is spewing about GA also molesting Caylee (some "supporters" are completely on board with that though as I read around FB/twitter/forums), but I do think many peeps are on board with an inordinate amount of anger toward GA right now, either for him NOT coming out to deny the allegations, or those who were already angry with him for what they feel is a betrayal of Caylee during the trial.

With what we read about that Amy Singer woman culling the internet for JB before and during the trial, I also believe some of the outright lies and twisting of words and this whole GA-molestation thing, there is a reason for it at the moment, that some thought and research went into some of what is in his book, from what I am reading and someone posted here, he is also trying to get some R-E-S-P-E-C-T for himself and rehab himself, but FCA signed her atty-client privilege over for SOMETHING...... to get the focus back onto GA in a big way?? who knows with this WHOLE BUNCH!!!! :banghead:

IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[krkrjx]

Darn...:maddening: Lunch time over - see y'all later. I'd really like to come back and find someone has written a whole scenario from stepping up to the mike for George to what happens until it's over.

Yes, we're all angry at George - enough so that some of us suspect he was in on a coverup. But we never do anything except comment over and over again. I'd like to hear some and then..and then.....and then...

Later my friends...:seeya:

Looking forward to reading your detailed scenario on this, LG.

 

[NavySubMom]

Sounds like MM wants to know about any and all monies it received from the trust. Not just the Dr. Phil money. (Do we know for a fact that there were no other donations?)

We only know what was written in the People article, and who know what those sources were? but it was the A's got $600,000 from Phil, and that when the Fund was dissolved there was $100,000 left. I feel they definitely got some donations from some kind hearted folks through their website? but who knows? even if it was $20 here, $10 there, $50 here, $35 there, it all adds up. At least they supposedly had $600,000, which is a mighty sum for most folks!! (ETA: Lippman did issue a statement that the info in the People article was true, not sure if he was only confirming the dissolution of the Fund with the $100,000 left in it, or if he also confirmed the $600,000 amount.)

I anticipate a Motion from Greene to not have to answer these Interrogatories, then a Looooooong time for the Judge to rule on that as is her usual, but hopefully somewhere along the way we will get to see the answers to these questions. Hopefully some FL newspaper will pay the $$ and post the pdf of the Interrogatories for us soon, anxious to see what the exact questions are.

IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[bayouland]

I totally agree with you LolaMoon. But I just realized, we are projecting. We are wanting George to do what we would do in this situation as an innocent person.

So....IMHO...he is either guilty as charged by Jose and daughter (which I don't believe), or he was in on it (which I strongly believe).

Yes, LG, he denied it in court. What was he supposed to do? admit it on national TV and in a court of law? I guess if, as I believe, he was "falling on his sword for his daughter" he could have plunged it in and committed suicide for real by saying "yes, I did it". But IMHO he said what he had to say on the matter there in court, in order to create doubt for the jury, and NOT BE PROSECUTED by admitting in court that he was guilty as charged by Jose.

I DO NOT believe he molested his daughter, but I DO believe he played into the fairytale defense. Just to save his daughter from the death penalty, and more importantly, to avoid the wrath of Cindy.

ETA: It also explains, in my mind anyway, why he WON'T do something now - go on TV to refute what is being written and spewed by Jose. IF he, in fact, was part of the defense team strategy willingly, how can he now say "Oh Jose, you are lying so shut up." All Jose would have to do is say "you agreed to this"....

The consensus here is that George did not molest Casey and I admit that I am still on the fence about whether he did or not, but even if he did, SO WHAT? What does that have to do with the murder of Caylee Anthony?

I want to know the real reason George attempted suicide (if he really did). I just can't buy into him saying he was going to be with Caylee. There is something very strange about that so called attempted suicide.

If he attempted suicide in guilt over helping Casey get rid of the body, I would find it easier to believe.

 

[MaryB]

Hey Jose, remember when you were on Geraldo and was asked if you had an intimate relationship (aka Twizzler Gate) with CA and you wouldn't answer either. You said you wouldn't dignify that with an answer so you didn't deny it or admit it either.

By the way, since you and your client are documented liars. I don't even believe this happened. What idiot would believe a pathological liar & her lying lawyer?

 

[bayouland]

Hey Jose, remember when you were on Geraldo and was asked if you had an intimate relationship (aka Twizzler Gate) with CA and you wouldn't answer either. You said you wouldn't dignify that with an answer so you didn't deny it or acknowledge it either.

By the way, since you and your client are documented liars. I don't even believe this happened. What idiot would believe a pathological liar & her lying lawyer?

Great post!

 

[zoey]

That thought has crossed my mind too.

I believe Baez completely believes that Casey was molested.

Then hE should have had him investigated. I truly. Elieve any molestation was done by la (if at all). Think the rest was manufactured in her cell to perhaps garner some sympathy. Play victim. Jmo
I do hope ga lawyer is doing something anything otherwise

 

[MaryAnn]

The consensus here is that George did not molest Casey and I admit that I am still on the fence about whether he did or not, but even if he did, SO WHAT? What does that have to do with the murder of Caylee Anthony?

I want to know the real reason George attempted suicide (if he really did). I just can't buy into him saying he was going to be with Caylee. There is something very strange about that so called attempted suicide.

If he attempted suicide in guilt over helping Casey get rid of the body, I would find it easier to believe.

Hi Bayou,
BBM I disagree, not being snarky at all. I respect your opinion. Have you ever lost someone really close to you? I can understand his feeling of wanting to be with Caylee. I don't think there is anything odd about it. I would never commit suicide, but after the loss of a child the pain is so bad you aren't thinking clearly and I can see why he would try. JMO

 

[RR0004]

Baez is awfully insensitive and crude to confess that he was out shopping for hacksaws to open Caylee's skull whenever it was.

It doesn't matter to me whether it was Christmas Eve, Christmas Day or Easter. This is not something that he should have put in his book.

I guess he has the same attitude as Cindy, after all Caylee was just a shell. :banghead::banghead:

Poor baby Caylee - :tears:

I'd love for someone like Joypath to respond to this. A saw from Walmart? Really? I'm surprised anything they found would be admissable under those circumstances. Did they sterilize it? Photograph the act? Yikes. Is this all about shock...and awe (think not!!)?

 

[krkrjx]

The consensus here is that George did not molest Casey and I admit that I am still on the fence about whether he did or not, but even if he did, SO WHAT? What does that have to do with the murder of Caylee Anthony?

I want to know the real reason George attempted suicide (if he really did). I just can't buy into him saying he was going to be with Caylee. There is something very strange about that so called attempted suicide.

If he attempted suicide in guilt over helping Casey get rid of the body, I would find it easier to believe.

It is not unheard of that a person may wish to die to be with a loved one they have lost. Some do try. And some even succeed. Just saying people in deep despair can hurt so bad they think the hurt will never go away, and they miss their loved one so desperately that they would give up their life to be with them. I have actually felt that pain and I did entertain such thoughts, so I can accept that George may have been so tortured with grief at that time.

 

[MaryAnn]

If GA did indeed fell on the sword to prevent her from getting the DP, and he did want to clear his name, is he obligated to JB not say anything about being (in on it)? I would love to see him just tell JB to take a hike and out him if this is the case because it is getting out of control...but like I said in my last post, he really does not have anyone to back him.

And about the alleged allocations of molestation, Cindy pretty much controlled what went on in that house. I am sure she had eyes everywhere. If she kicked GA out of the house for running up a gambling bill(or whatever it was) why wouldn't people think she wouldn't kick GA out for molestation. JB said it all started when KC was 8yrs. I can not even imagine Cindy not catching on if it was true. Which I feel it is not true at all.

I agree with you Ricki. Cindy would have castrated him if he did anything close to that. Why would anyone believe anything It or Baez says!! FCA lies about everything except the molestation. Come on?? I can't believe that anyone on this board believes George did anything even close to that. He was just a grieving GranFather.

 

[RR0004]

I can't buy that he was just lazy, I think EVERYONE can even visualize FCA with her phone-in-hand face all scrunched up saying "surprise, surprise". It is just such a RIDICULOUS false statement, why even put it in at ALL, I'm just flabbergasted that he would write that into the book using the wrong words.

I just get stuck on certain things sometimes, I think he had a "plan" to get FCA back into the news in a big (sympathetic) way before her probation release, but did it backfire? just trying to cause controversy in the most obvious ways, just get his book talked about??

is there more FCA-anger now, or are the uninformed people who are reading this book now sympathetic to FCA and ready to believe GA molested her and Caylee, Poor, Poor Casey, that frightened little thing, all the bad people not letting her speak again, NOW LET'S ALL HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY in her interview/book?? is that now going to happen with the general public? God, I HOPE not!!!

ETA:, I am visualizing the wrong phone call, she was very calm saying "surprise surprise", it was "NOBODY IS LETTING ME SPEAK!!" where her face was all scrunched in anger, WHY can I STILL visualize these things?????

I might agree...except that Baez really IS lazy. After listening to him on GVS and seeing that he had very little command of the facts as they were, it doesn't surprise me that he got that part wrong. When did getting things RIGHT matter to Baez? But, I do understand that this may also be part of a grander scheme...obviously Baez isn't reaping the bucks he thought he would...so who knows, maybe he has a bigger stake in what comes next. I just don't think ANYTHING those documented liars say will be well received.
JMO

 

[MaryAnn]

Hey Jose, remember when you were on Geraldo and was asked if you had an intimate relationship (aka Twizzler Gate) with CA and you wouldn't answer either. You said you wouldn't dignify that with an answer so you didn't deny it or admit it either.

By the way, since you and your client are documented liars. I don't even believe this happened. What idiot would believe a pathological liar & her lying lawyer?

FCA is going to tell us all about her affair with Baez in her book. :banghead: She said something to the affect that it won't be your normal kiss and tell story.

 

[md89]

It is not unheard of that a person may wish to die to be with a loved one they have lost. Some do try. And some even succeed. Just saying people in deep despair can hurt so bad they think the hurt will never go away, and they miss their loved one so desperately that they would give up their life to be with them. I have actually felt that pain and I did entertain such thoughts, so I can accept that George may have been so tortured with grief at that time.

I agree with you. And I think that George knew deep down that Casey had something to do with Caylee's death. So he not only lost his precious granddaughter but he also 'lost' his daughter who he loved.

 

[MaryAnn]

I agree with you. And I think that George knew deep down that Casey had something to do with Caylee's death. So he not only lost his precious granddaughter but he also 'lost' his daughter who he loved.

Plus having to deal with the thought of your Daughter killing her child. He had to be thinking "what did I do wrong" or "could I have prevented this". I can't even imagine! I'm sure that George and Lee know the truth and Cindy is just in denial because if she faces the facts she won't be able to have "IT" in her life. Cindy would rather live in a Fantasy World too then deal with the truth.