Sidebar Discussion #8

[krkrjx]

I'm on a quick coffee break - hi Aedyrs :seeya:

Great to see you back if only for a short period of time. Was shocked you werent here for the South Park adventure that A_News_junkie held or is still holding..:floorlaugh:

Okay so I have a question for you and all of you re George coming out to deny what Baez is saying FCA has said about molesting them both.

We know he has denied this both in court and via his lawyer. So based on this - what do people think he should do? I ask that question respectfully.

I mean - what exactly - how should he do that? Would we suggest appearing on local media in a newspot? Appearing on a selected shows like Baez is doing? Appear on a show with Baez and duke it out?

I'd really like posters to have a think about this and post - I'm interested - but really do a blow by blow and advance it in the future.

And lastly, how do you think he would be perceived by the public, especially right now, since most anti-FCA folks don't support him and the pro-FCA folks hate him? And what would be the final result he would get?

And one more thing - who thinks Baez is trying to draw him out to do that very thing? Thanks y'all - will be watching with interest.

Edited to add: I've been wondering the same thing but everytime I try to play it forward - I just cringe and stop in my tracks...

I think George is pretty much damned in much of society's eyes no matter what he does. If he calls FOUL, they will say he's a liar. If he does nothing, they will say that's proof of his guilt.

I do not believe George molested Casey (and of course not Caylee) but I think his past behaviors (during the investigation, the depos, etc.) did nothing but turn people against him to the point where I am unable to see a way in which his reputation could be resurrected. People who despise Casey will always hate George for not doing all he should have for justice for Caylee, and that hatred will help *convince* a number of those people that George is probably a pedophile. People who sympathize with Casey will always believe George molested her.

I suppose someone will think of something that might help George effectively explain his actions and words of the past. I know what I would LIKE to see George do, but I can come up with nothing that would actually benefit him.

Regarding Baez's vicious and continuing attacks on George, I am appalled by it and I believe something sinister is going on with that--that possibly Baez is hoping for some kind of confrontation with George or worse, he's hoping to drive George to doing something drastic. If it happens, things could get even uglier than they are now. And possibly that could backfire on Baez and Casey, but I fear it would also serve to make George fair game once again in the eyes of many.

As things stand, and have stood for awhile, this is a no-win for George, IMO.

 

[NavySubMom]

He was lazy?
I really don't think he spent much time reading anything...other than his own press.

I can't buy that he was just lazy, I think EVERYONE can even visualize FCA with her phone-in-hand face all scrunched up saying "surprise, surprise". It is just such a RIDICULOUS false statement, why even put it in at ALL, I'm just flabbergasted that he would write that into the book using the wrong words.

I just get stuck on certain things sometimes, I think he had a "plan" to get FCA back into the news in a big (sympathetic) way before her probation release, but did it backfire? just trying to cause controversy in the most obvious ways, just get his book talked about??

is there more FCA-anger now, or are the uninformed people who are reading this book now sympathetic to FCA and ready to believe GA molested her and Caylee, Poor, Poor Casey, that frightened little thing, all the bad people not letting her speak again, NOW LET'S ALL HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY in her interview/book?? is that now going to happen with the general public? God, I HOPE not!!!

ETA:, I am visualizing the wrong phone call, she was very calm saying "surprise surprise", it was "NOBODY IS LETTING ME SPEAK!!" where her face was all scrunched in anger, WHY can I STILL visualize these things?????

 

[logicalgirl]

My answer:
If he didn't have the guts to stand up for Caylee knowing that she was murdered at the hands of his daughter (just by looking at his face I know he knows the truth) what make's anyone think he will stand up for himself?

I have no sympathy for him simply because he had no sympathy for Caylee. He could have righted this wrong by standing up and saying no more CFCA, no more and she would have been behind bars where she belongs.

Yeah! No piece for him ever. He betrayed Caylee so let the cards (karma) fall where they may.


ANDDD as for you Miss LG. You get back to work NOWWWW! If your boss catches you messing around on here she's going to need this :werk:.

Heh heh - now "on lunch" - three hours behind most of you as I am on the West Coast.

 

[logicalgirl]

I actually called in sick. I have been having weird arm pain the last few days - yes, of course it has to be the left arm. I think it is pinched nerve in cervical disk, or by rotator cuff but it kept me up all night. At least I don't have to call again till Wed night. I will be so happy when July 31 comes. I don't mind doing jury duty, or sitting on a case but this is too long a time to be living day to day based on a call after 5 the night before.

Hooray! Re your rotator cuff - i get that when I spend too much time online because I lean on it and immobilze it a little higher on my desk when I am reading online.

Ice baby - ice! Oh yeah, and a handful of tylenol.

 

[logicalgirl]

Casey will never tell the truth. That just isn't going to happen. Just listen to the last "interview" by phone she had with Piers Morgan. Not one thing has changed about her. It's still her as the victim, always her as the victim and not Caylee. She's never going to make money because it's just the same pack of lies she keeps spewing. She's not going to tell the truth, and actually she can't, because she lies so much no one would believe it's the truth anyway. Casey and the truth are strangers. She doesn't believe she needs the truth. She believes her lies will carry her through life and get her what she wants, and she hasn't been wrong yet.

Yes, on the Piers Morgan show..............

She IS a victim and she is NOT fat.......:floorlaugh:

 

[Mysteeri]

It`s confusing because the pro-Casey group blames George- or finds him suspicious- for "throwing his daughter under the bus" and testifying against her. There will always be differing interpretations and opinions about his behaviour.

 

[KarmaGet'em]

Adam Longo ‏@adamlongo

Just talked w/ @MattMorganESQ who wants to know if ‪#caseyanthony‬ got $ from a Dr. Phil donation to the CMA Foundation. Court papers coming.

 

[spcagrl]

Yea, He just posted under comments on News J's review.
Did you guys know News Junkie is not a lawyer. LOL

But she may have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...........

 

[SleuthTheTruth]

WalMart stores are CLOSED on Christmas Day

IIRC, WalMart stores close around 8pm on Christmas Eve..

Thank you, I thought this was right.

 

[MaryAnn]

Okay so this Lily is on another page too, and is probably not Casey (I can`t say that with a 100% certainty because she does invent people :banghead

http://caseyanthonyisinnocent.com/p...y-anthony-book-reviews-comments/#comment-8151

That`s enough reading FCA letters and the opinions of disturbed individuals for today. Ground control to Mysteeri.

OMG! this is disgusting and where is KARMA? We need her now! I cannot believe what that witch is doing to her Father. "It' is beyond disgusting, I think she is Satan in disguise. lease: make IT do something against the law without hurting anyone or anything to put her behind bars. I can't take it anymore! I think it's time for George to speak up!! He's probably instructed by Cindy to not make any waves because it might hurt Cindy's relationship with IT. George is not capable of sexual abuse because he doesn't have any b*lls.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I'm on a quick coffee break - hi Aedyrs :seeya:

Great to see you back if only for a short period of time. Was shocked you werent here for the South Park adventure that A_News_junkie held or is still holding..:floorlaugh:

Okay so I have a question for you and all of you re George coming out to deny what Baez is saying FCA has said about molesting them both.

We know he has denied this both in court and via his lawyer. So based on this - what do people think he should do? I ask that question respectfully.

I mean - what exactly - how should he do that? Would we suggest appearing on local media in a newspot? Appearing on a selected shows like Baez is doing? Appear on a show with Baez and duke it out?

I'd really like posters to have a think about this and post - I'm interested - but really do a blow by blow and advance it in the future.

And lastly, how do you think he would be perceived by the public, especially right now, since most anti-FCA folks don't support him and the pro-FCA folks hate him? And what would be the final result he would get?

And one more thing - who thinks Baez is trying to draw him out to do that very thing? Thanks y'all - will be watching with interest.

Edited to add: I've been wondering the same thing but everytime I try to play it forward - I just cringe and stop in my tracks...

You know what I want George to do? I want George to challenge them publicly! I wish he would go on a national television show, without Cindy, and challenge Casey, Jose, and Cheney! Tell them to press charges against him! File a civil lawsuit against him! At least let him have a way to defend himself against these vile accusations! If they don't do either of those things, then they need to stop making this accusations!

That is what I want George to do, but he won't because I am even more convinced that he was in on the whole scheme from jump!

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

As with the entire Anthony family, George's word is worthless. I don't really care anymore what he does or doesn't say. But perhaps those who wish he would respond to Jose's continued character assault would at least have the benefit of knowing George was feeling the pain of the thumbscrews? Personally, I wouldn't mind that.

If I could pick the torturer I wouldn't choose Jose, though. But maybe that makes it even more humiliating for George.

No, I don't believe George is a sexual molester. Bad actions, misdeeds and immorality aren't always paid back in kind; a swindler doesn't always end up in the poor house but there is always some catastrophe that befalls them ~ often even worse than a financial one! This is how I see George's situation.

:cow:​

 

[Ricki]

I think George is pretty much damned in much of society's eyes no matter what he does. If he calls FOUL, they will say he's a liar. If he does nothing, they will say that's proof of his guilt.

I do not believe George molested Casey (and of course not Caylee) but I think his past behaviors (during the investigation, the depos, etc.) did nothing but turn people against him to the point where I am unable to see a way in which his reputation could be resurrected. People who despise Casey will always hate George for not doing all he should have for justice for Caylee, and that hatred will help *convince* a number of those people that George is probably a pedophile. People who sympathize with Casey will always believe George molested her.

I suppose someone will think of something that might help George effectively explain his actions and words of the past. I know what I would LIKE to see George do, but I can come up with nothing that would actually benefit him.

Regarding Baez's vicious and continuing attacks on George, I am appalled by it and I believe something sinister is going on with that--that possibly Baez is hoping for some kind of confrontation with George or worse, he's hoping to drive George to doing something drastic. If it happens, things could get even uglier than they are now. And possibly that could backfire on Baez and Casey, but I fear it would also serve to make George fair game once again in the eyes of many.

As things stand, and have stood for awhile, this is a no-win for George, IMO.

I agree with your post. I do believe there is something going on especially since KC is due to be released in August. If he could manage to get GA enraged some may see GA as the evil molesting, murdering dad. Hope that is not what JB is trying to do but JB like KC seems to lack scruples..and I am being nice..

 

[krkrjx]

Adam Longo ‏@adamlongo

Just talked w/ @MattMorganESQ who wants to know if ‪#caseyanthony‬ got $ from a Dr. Phil donation to the CMA Foundation. Court papers coming.

Cool!

Although no one involved is going to be truthful about what the felon got. There probably is no paper trail for anything that went directly to it.

I'm basing that on how they lied in court and got away with it. No reason to believe they won't lie again.

But maybe if they lie about MONEY rather than about anything to do with a child's murder, perjury charges will apply.

 

[LolaMoon08]

One thing that I do wish would happen is that these "molestation" accusations haunt George, Cindy, and Lee forever! All because of darling Casey! I hope that if Lee is to ever have any children that DCF harrasses him about these accusations made by Casey! I hope that because George has also been accused that any grandchildren they may have will not be allowed to visit him. I also hope since Casey accused Cindy of knowing about the abuse and calling her a w**** and allowing it to continue, that Cindy is also not allowed to have any contact with grandchildren!

They want to play this game and allow Casey to continue to lie about them in the most vile way? Then they can deal with the consequences!

MOO

 

[Shelby1]

Okay so this Lily is on another page too, and is probably not Casey (I can`t say that with a 100% certainty because she does invent people :banghead

http://caseyanthonyisinnocent.com/p...y-anthony-book-reviews-comments/#comment-8151

That`s enough reading FCA letters and the opinions of disturbed individuals for today. Ground control to Mysteeri.

OH EM GEE

I had no idea that site existed. Who owns/runs it?????

 

[logicalgirl]

You know what I want George to do? I want George to challenge them publicly! I wish he would go on a national television show, without Cindy, and challenge Casey, Jose, and Cheney! Tell them to press charges against him! File a civil lawsuit against him! At least let him have a way to defend himself against these vile accusations! If they don't do either of those things, then they need to stop making this accusations!

That is what I want George to do, but he won't because I am even more convinced that he was in on the whole scheme from jump!

I so agree with your first paragraph ...and then what do you think would happen - I mean beyond that first step.......a serious question which I do not have an answer for..

I've had so many life lessons in consequences because I'm a bit of a hothead - that I've learned to ask myself - uh-huh ..and then what would happen.....

 

[NavySubMom]

Adam Longo ‏@adamlongo

Just talked w/ @MattMorganESQ who wants to know if ‪#caseyanthony‬ got $ from a Dr. Phil donation to the CMA Foundation. Court papers coming.

Matt Morgan ‏@MattMorganESQ
Just filed interrogatories to find out how much money #CaseyAnthony has receieved from the #CayleeMarieAnthonyTrust

This will be most interesting........ I assume this "Trust" is the same as the recently-dissolved Caylee's Fund? but would they have written a check directly to FCA? I hardly think so, but maybe this will trigger some financial records to be publicly available from that Fund, maybe see the "actual" Phil donation?? I can't wait to see how the money in that Fund was "hidden" here and there and everywhere.......

 

[logicalgirl]

One thing that I do wish would happen is that these "molestation" accusations haunt George, Cindy, and Lee forever! All because of darling Casey! I hope that if Lee is to ever have any children that DCF harrasses him about these accusations made by Casey! I hope that because George has also been accused that any grandchildren they may have will not be allowed to visit him. I also hope since Casey accused Cindy of knowing about the abuse and calling her a w**** and allowing it to continue, that Cindy is also not allowed to have any contact with grandchildren!

They want to play this game and allow Casey to continue to lie about them in the most vile way? Then they can deal with the consequences!

MOO

Not going to happen...both the LE and the SA cleared them of any hint of it before the verdict - sticks and stones..etc.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I so agree with your first paragraph ...and then what do you think would happen - I mean beyond that first step.......a serious question which I do not have an answer for..

I've had so many life lessons in consequences because I'm a bit of a hothead - that I've learned to ask myself - uh-huh ..and then what would happen.....

It doesn't matter what would happen next because I don't see George doing it. I honestly believe he was in on it. That he allowed himself to be seen as a monster to get Casey off. I believe the money was worth it to both Cindy and George. Not that I don't think they would ever have traded Caylee for this money, but they have accepted it and are living with it all in the name of their murdering daughter.

MOO