Sidebar Discussion #9

[grammieto5]

Yes, that is true and a questionable thing for him to have said. But this was very early on in the case, not close to the trial or when all those accusations surfaced.

Yes, I agree. Wasn't he also asked that question when he was on the stand ? I can't remember. Either way, they were all in it together, do anything, say anything to keep FCA from getting the DP, noone ever thinking she would be found not guilty.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Yes, that is true and a questionable thing for him to have said. But this was very early on in the case, not close to the trial or when all those accusations surfaced.

He also said it under oath when asked bny Baez at one of the hearings not long before the trial. That was the moment I knew things would be bad at trial.

 

[mac66]

I don't think the URL above is complete. I'm still learning and I think I did something wrong. See up page a bit for the original.

 

[RR0004]

I still find it amazing that most can't even consider that GA may have molested Casey. From the moment the media reported this tragic event, and after seeing Casey on the news - The first thing I said was WOW, This girl is a molestation victim. Long before anything of the sort was even remotely mentioned. I guess I just seen myself (to an extent) in her somehow. But what truly throws me is how no one wants to even consider that it may be true. I mean, you seriously didn't think he would admit it do you? (not to anyone in particular) So since he said No it didn't happen that's the end of it? Since, Casey lies that's the end of it? The truth of the matter is that NO ONE but Casey and George know the truth. NO ONE. And for ANYONE to say that he did not, you know not what you speak of. And certainly don't know anything about child sexual abuse. When I FINALLY told my mom she said "He must have been having a seizure." LOL. Well if that was the case he was having a seizure every day for 5 years lol. Anyway, that was her way of denial and dealing. Just because the perp doesn't admit it or no one else knows, or no report, doesn't mean squat. All just my two cents. IMO.

I feel for you PC....but I doubt you had the same history as Casey. I think many here did look at the veracity of the claim...and of course, we will never know the truth...but it still doesn't excuse what she did to Caylee. I suppose part of the difficulty in accepting any allegation of abuse is that we never, ever heard it from Casey. Those letters...pffft! Baez talking for her...pffft! again. Paid for "experts"...well even her stories to the two who may have believed her (for the right price, IMO), don't jive. After 4 years it may seem that we are just writing off the abuse, but in all fairness, many here have examined EVERYTHING that we do know and have just come to a differing opinion. It doesn't make what you experienced less horrific. Thank you for sharing this with us.
oxoxoxox

 

[com n sense]

When I first started reading the five star reviews I thought they were serious, but then when I read for a while I could see patterns - they go through the same process, it's blah blah wonderful Jose, great lawyer, blah blah, everyone who gives a one star is a troll, only listened to the media, won't offer proof - it's all about the book - then it was plain they were gaming us...:maddening:

And you know what they say - when you lose your temper you've lost the argument.

There is only one out there who has made this a game since the beginning.
All of her actions scream Catch me if you can. One of these days she will get caught in a snare & never be able to escape it.. Can't wait!

 

[peedoffinny]

I wonder why most of these 5 star reviewers always have to mention the book having 400 pages? I guess Jeff Ashton's book must have had less so Bozo's is way better than his.

 

[SunnyinMO]

It doesn't...and should have never been allowed. Judge Perry failed, IMO. :banghead:

I agree...I have said over and over that Perry was a huge problem for the prosecution team. His promises to the jury, the coddling of the defense and the jury and the jury instructions....all led to the biggest case of injustice that I have ever witnessed. JMO of course

 

[logicalgirl]

Evidentially the authors dont earn much per book. Ive read that non fiction earns less..but who knows what kind of a deal Baez got..

Here is a good explanation...

http://www.brandewyne.com/writingtips/authorspaid.html

Thanks Kaki - I appreciate that - it was very interesting. So even if Baez had been published rather than self published, chances are he would only earn 1.70 per book.

And even less on a paperback or kindle. That doesn't sound good...

Bwaaahahhhaaaahahahaaaaa.....oh sorry - I forgot myself for a minute..:giggle:

 

[logicalgirl]

I have totally ruled molestation out now but will admit that I did consider it for a while.

Casey is a liar. Baez has proven himself to be a liar as well. They were desperate to come up with a defense. If they wanted to go with a drowning death they needed something to go along with it to explain why 911 was not called to report the accident. They chose molestation because that is something that is in the headlines, a heated subject that people will (rightfully so) freak out with disgust and horror for how anyone can do such things to a child. The defense relied on public reaction to molestation/incest/abuse to raise reasonable doubt because they knew that even with not one shred of proof, some people would buy it.

I kept tossing the molestation theory around in my mind as I continued poring over documents for clues, but I could not find anything to lend credence to the molestation claims. It did not take long for me to be one hundred percent sure that the molestation theory was born out of desperation by the defendant and her counsel.

Krkrjx - if we are here for and truly wanted justice - of course we had to consider molestation - it was the same for me. I could find nothing to support it. I think if the LE had found it, they would have presented to block the DT - it would have been completely anti-climatic - and then the SA could have moved forward with "it is not an excuse for murder".
And yes, I agree with your comments completely.

 

[logicalgirl]

I wonder why most of these 5 star reviewers always have to mention the book having 400 pages? I guess Jeff Ashton's book must have had less so Bozo's is way better than his.

It is one of Baez's talking points - he always mentions the 400 pages...

 

[logicalgirl]

About to get on with my day here and wanted to do a 12:00 Noon Pacific West Coast time sales check.

ARE WE LOOKING AT #600 THIS WEEKEND - Hi Jose!:seeya:

Amazon Sales Rank - #568 Mayhem:#17 CrimLaw:#2

We may have a big party on our hands by the end of the weekend!!!

Okay see you all later!!:seeya:

 

[mac66]

Ugh! See the current news update . The comments under the Hal Boedecker article are mostly good, though. I reminded them it was # 564 on Amazon. But I haven't seen my comment published yet.

 

[com n sense]

One of the stalwart posters agreed.that jb should have made sure the taxes were paid on the abc money. The poster even said it was shady.
:woohoo:

He who is faithful in least is faithful in most.
He who is NOT faithful in least is NOT in most...

 

[com n sense]

I still find it amazing that most can't even consider that GA may have molested Casey. From the moment the media reported this tragic event, and after seeing Casey on the news - The first thing I said was WOW, This girl is a molestation victim. Long before anything of the sort was even remotely mentioned. I guess I just seen myself (to an extent) in her somehow. But what truly throws me is how no one wants to even consider that it may be true. I mean, you seriously didn't think he would admit it do you? (not to anyone in particular) So since he said No it didn't happen that's the end of it? Since, Casey lies that's the end of it? The truth of the matter is that NO ONE but Casey and George know the truth. NO ONE. And for ANYONE to say that he did not, you know not what you speak of. And certainly don't know anything about child sexual abuse. When I FINALLY told my mom she said "He must have been having a seizure." LOL. Well if that was the case he was having a seizure every day for 5 years lol. Anyway, that was her way of denial and dealing. Just because the perp doesn't admit it or no one else knows, or no report, doesn't mean squat. All just my two cents. IMO.

I'm sorry that happened to you. IMO it didn't happen at all to KC. She would have had her own tragic story if it were true. She would not need to copy a South Park episode to get her story from. Bless you for trying to see the good in everyone, even the ones that are undeserving.

 

[krkrjx]

I wonder why most of these 5 star reviewers always have to mention the book having 400 pages? I guess Jeff Ashton's book must have had less so Bozo's is way better than his.

All that means to me is that the book contains at least 400 lies.

 

[Whisperer]

The whole darn family is nutz. LA is just as kooky as the rest of them. They are all co-dependents and are enmeshed with one another. GA is the outsider in the group but is needed by cindy for validation, as she cannot be alone. He is good-looking and is allowed to stay. After-all, he makes her look good. He is a trophy husband. Everything cindy does, references appearances. Even the last day in court, cindy could be heard saying how beautiful her daughter is. A serious moment like this and she is concerned with her looks. IMO, Lee was forgotten when FCA was born. cindy dotted on her DD as she was the "pretty one". FCA got away with murder (no pun intended). Lee had to be the "pleaser" and struggled for his place in the web.http://www.websleuths.com/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=8175334

Both of the children born to this couple are severely lacking, imo. If there was any sexual molestation going on, it may have been initiated by FCA, imo. I think the prosecution knows differently than they told the public. I think Jeff A and LB played way too nice with the brother. I think they felt sorry for him. They went out of their way to protect him. Either the anthonys had them snookered or they were in full protection mode of the family. Come on, his crying on the stand because he wasn't invited to the baby shower was over the top. It was sickening. The prosecution had a heart, something the Anthonys lack.

Baez will never admit he was a toy...as he has been sucked into the vortex of the anthony web. Almost everyone that has touched this family have not faired well...imo..it is just a matter of time before they reap what they have sown.

For 31 days, the grandparents didn't go get Caylee. We all know cindy's personality. Do you really believe she wouldn't have found Caylee and rescued her if she knew she was alive? In a heartbeat...she would have called HER car in stolen immediately and located them. She did nothing. She stuck her head in the sand. If the car wasn't found, we still would never know what happened.

George went along with cindy, as he was told they have to protect FCA. This is the "Family of the Lie".

They knew something very bad happened...they did nothing. Neither of them stood up for Caylee...and for that, I refuse to give the grandparents a break.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm not letting casey off the hook. She was the one who got the check...well, her or her parents. They probably had an option to have taxes taken out or not. It was their call. Legally, the person whose name is written on the check is the one who owes the taxes. I imagine this money flowed through various family members before Baez received it.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Ugh! See the current news update . The comments under the Hal Boedecker article are mostly good, though. I reminded them it was # 564 on Amazon. But I haven't seen my comment published yet.

I was just looking at the comments, it seems FCA is now off probation if
they are right! I hope she is still a prisoner though....

 

[krkrjx]

I'm not letting casey off the hook. She was the one who got the check...well, her or her parents. They probably had an option to have taxes taken out or not. It was their call. Legally, the person whose name is written on the check is the one who owes the taxes. I imagine this money flowed through various family members before Baez received it.

I don't think Casey ever considered that ABC payment as taxable but Baez, as an attorney, should have known taxes would be due. But ya know what? I don't think he did! I do not see Baez as very intelligent. JMO.

 

[logicalgirl]

I was just looking at the comments, it seems FCA is now off probation if
they are right! I hope she is still a prisoner though....

I wonder if she is thinking - hey! - how come there are no headlines or a big announcement or people looking for her!

Hey FCA - YAWN!!! Give us a call when you're back in :jail: