Sidebar Discussion #9

[FLmom777]

share.. what was the negative? His pocket squares didn't always match!?

One of the stalwart posters agreed.that jb should have made sure the taxes were paid on the abc money. The poster even said it was shady.
:woohoo:

 

[IfIMay]

What? Baez not buying today? Sales ranking tanking..:giggle:

548/16 and criminal law - dropped down to #2

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

His credit card is maxxed and no one will extend credit to someone in a foreclosure!?

:woohoo:

 

[IfIMay]

One of the stalwart posters agreed.that jb should have made sure the taxes were paid on the abc money. The poster even said it was shady.
:woohoo:

:what: wow. that is some admission. Great job! You're breaking them!

:cheer:

 

[grammieto5]

For me I didn't see that at all. I thought GA looked white with anger and disgust. I think we can lay this one completely on FCA and Baez...remember posters were talking and talking and talking! about this possibility with George and Baez's social medial folks who were watching and listening to us admitted it quite openly that she simply went with what the "bloggers" were speculating about.:banghead:

I think we - the sleuthers and the speculators forget our sites are not private and we also forget how powerful words can be - even if we are just speculating.

Because all the garbage JB was putting out there were lies. I don't believe for one second GA did anything to FCA and especially not to baby Caylee. But I keep thinking of him/GA saying he would do anything for FCA. I look at this trial as a screen play, it took 3 years to complete, they all played their part very well!

 

[Niner]

Now I'm going through part 2 of Dazinger's depo. The first lie is already on practically the first question he is asked that day- page 131, line 25: BOTH parents of the felon confirm she fully graduated high school.

Maybe she wrapped herself in a sheet and paraded around the house with a pizza box on her head and convinced them?

Page 135, line 5: BOTH parents confirm no medical issues with the felon- she's never had a head injury or suffered with loss of consciousness. WHOOPS! Who needs the duct tape over their mouths now?

CA reports the seizure in 2008 when the felon was home on bond. It peed its pants, bit its tongue and was "confused" for about 40 minutes afterward, which is pretty much how I felt after watching each day of the trial, so no sympathy from me, there!

Page 137, lines 13-14: CA goes out of her way to say there was never any defiant behaviour by the felon, never any screaming matches, and certainly no domestic violence. Somebody is already beginning to cover her arse over the screaming match that happened June 16th that ended in her choking the felon for stealing cheques belonging to grandma. Too bad she didn't finish the job right there and then.

:goodpost: GREAT comments!! I totally agree on the last paragraph there! Too bad she didn't finish that job - Caylee would still be alive...


Yes, LOTS of chuckles and :silly: LOVE this thread and the all the GREAT comments made here! :cheers:

 

[pcrum12]

I still find it amazing that most can't even consider that GA may have molested Casey. From the moment the media reported this tragic event, and after seeing Casey on the news - The first thing I said was WOW, This girl is a molestation victim. Long before anything of the sort was even remotely mentioned. I guess I just seen myself (to an extent) in her somehow. But what truly throws me is how no one wants to even consider that it may be true. I mean, you seriously didn't think he would admit it do you? (not to anyone in particular) So since he said No it didn't happen that's the end of it? Since, Casey lies that's the end of it? The truth of the matter is that NO ONE but Casey and George know the truth. NO ONE. And for ANYONE to say that he did not, you know not what you speak of. And certainly don't know anything about child sexual abuse. When I FINALLY told my mom she said "He must have been having a seizure." LOL. Well if that was the case he was having a seizure every day for 5 years lol. Anyway, that was her way of denial and dealing. Just because the perp doesn't admit it or no one else knows, or no report, doesn't mean squat. All just my two cents. IMO.

 

[kaki]

What? Baez not buying today? Sales ranking tanking..:giggle:

548/16 and criminal law - dropped down to #2

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

He has to buy a new book everytime he opens a new amazon account to make another 5 star review....I beleve you have to buy something in order to submit a review...

Too bad credit card maxed out... :giggle: Now he will really tank. 500 is still way to high for the likes of that book... It should be ranked under 10,000....where he will be in the hole for writing it.

What will the felon do if she doesnt get her share of the blood money? It makes me giddy with anticipation.

 

[mac66]

Pcrum, I have not totally ruled out the molestation claims.I am inclined to NOT believe her since she is such a liar. However, as a victim of abuse as a child, and a certified rape counselor, I almost ALWAYS believe the women who speak out.However, I still feel IT killed her child, either by neglect or more probably murder. Have you killed any of your children because you were abused? I haven't either. She should have been held responsible for the death of that little girl.

 

[logicalgirl]

Because all the garbage JB was putting out there were lies. I don't believe for one second GA did anything to FCA and especially not to baby Caylee. But I keep thinking of him/GA saying he would do anything for FCA. I look at this trial as a screen play, it took 3 years to complete, they all played their part very well!

Yes, that is true and a questionable thing for him to have said. But this was very early on in the case, not close to the trial or when all those accusations surfaced.

 

[logicalgirl]

He has to buy a new book everytime he opens a new amazon account to make another 5 star review....I beleve you have to buy something in order to submit a review...

Too bad credit card maxed out... :giggle: Now he will really tank. 500 is still way to high for the likes of that book... It should be ranked under 10,000....where he will be in the hole for writing it.

What will the felon do if she doesnt get her share of the blood money? It makes me giddy with anticipation.

Do you know the stats on how this actually works? So if he had to pay for it because it is self published, that would be upfront? And then he would have wanted an advance amount....right? This is quite a bit different than when a publishing house takes a book on to publish...so I have no idea how the profits margins work....

 

[TorisMom003]

I still find it amazing that most can't even consider that GA may have molested Casey. From the moment the media reported this tragic event, and after seeing Casey on the news - The first thing I said was WOW, This girl is a molestation victim. Long before anything of the sort was even remotely mentioned. I guess I just seen myself (to an extent) in her somehow. But what truly throws me is how no one wants to even consider that it may be true. I mean, you seriously didn't think he would admit it do you? (not to anyone in particular) So since he said No it didn't happen that's the end of it? Since, Casey lies that's the end of it? The truth of the matter is that NO ONE but Casey and George know the truth. NO ONE. And for ANYONE to say that he did not, you know not what you speak of. And certainly don't know anything about child sexual abuse. When I FINALLY told my mom she said "He must have been having a seizure." LOL. Well if that was the case he was having a seizure every day for 5 years lol. Anyway, that was her way of denial and dealing. Just because the perp doesn't admit it or no one else knows, or no report, doesn't mean squat. All just my two cents. IMO.

Even though I don't know you personally I am going to make a very bold statement here and say that you and Casey are nothing alike, at all.

You see Casey based on your past experiences. That is understandable. However, please do me a favor. Think about some of the things that Casey has done, would you ever do any of those things yourself? Would you steal money from your grandmother's account for things that you did NOT need? Would you steal money from your grandfather's account, money that was to be used to pay for his much needed medical help? Would you wipe out a supposedly best friends bank account while she was on vacation and spend the money on beer, cute outfits, sunglasses, food for your new guy and his roommates? Would you lie to everyone you know about a job you don't have? Would you make up a nanny, a boyfriend and his son, good work friends, etc just to show people how very important you are and that you are doing well in the income department? Would you tell your father (who supposedly molested you) that he was a wonderful father and grandfather?

I hope you see where I am going with all of this. It isn't that I believe George simply because he denies this, I believe George because I know that Casey ALWAYS has an ulterior motive for everything she says and does. Casey lies, and lies, and lies some more. Casey lies about very trivial things that really are so unimportant that she should just tell the truth.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, I truly am. But please do not compare yourself to this individual who killed her child and has ruined every single life she ever came into contact with.

MOO

 

[logicalgirl]

Even though I don't know you personally I am going to make a very bold statement here and say that you and Casey are nothing alike, at all.

You see Casey based on your past experiences. That is understandable. However, please do me a favor. Think about some of the things that Casey has done, would you ever do any of those things yourself? Would you steal money from your grandmother's account for things that you did NOT need? Would you steal money from your grandfather's account, money that was to be used to pay for his much needed medical help? Would you wipe out a supposedly best friends bank account while she was on vacation and spend the money on beer, cute outfits, sunglasses, food for your new guy and his roommates? Would you lie to everyone you know about a job you don't have? Would you make up a nanny, a boyfriend and his son, good work friends, etc just to show people how very important you are and that you are doing well in the income department? Would you tell your father (who supposedly molested you) that he was a wonderful father and grandfather?

I hope you see where I am going with all of this. It isn't that I believe George simply because he denies this, I believe George because I know that Casey ALWAYS has an ulterior motive for everything she says and does. Casey lies, and lies, and lies some more. Casey lies about very trivial things that really are so unimportant that she should just tell the truth.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, I truly am. But please do not compare yourself to this individual who killed her child and has ruined every single life she ever came into contact with.

MOO

And just to add, this was information FCA came up with when she wanted to alienate a man from her family - like Jesse - and she expanded on it when she was looking at a way to get around a murder conviction and the death penalty...

Also to say that I deeply sympathize with true abuse victims who were not supported and protected by the family members and regret that FCA who always uses some form of manipulation to get what she wants, has seized on these victims sense of abandonment to achieve her own aims. The worst kind of a con!

 

[TorisMom003]

And just to add, this was information FCA came up with when she wanted to alienate a man from her family - like Jesse - and she expanded on it when she was looking at a way to get around a murder conviction and the death penalty...

Also to say that I deeply sympathize with true abuse victims who were not supported and protected by the family members and regret that FCA who always uses some form of manipulation to get what she wants, has seized on these victims sense of abandonment to achieve her own aims. The worst kind of a con!

Casey could not/would not even tell "Cookie" that George had molested her in the jailhouse letters. If it were true, what better way to "bond" with someone than to tell them the horrid details of what her father had done instead of the less invasive things "done by Lee".

MOO

 

[coco puff]

I still find it amazing that most can't even consider that GA may have molested Casey. From the moment the media reported this tragic event, and after seeing Casey on the news - The first thing I said was WOW, This girl is a molestation victim. Long before anything of the sort was even remotely mentioned. I guess I just seen myself (to an extent) in her somehow. But what truly throws me is how no one wants to even consider that it may be true. I mean, you seriously didn't think he would admit it do you? (not to anyone in particular) So since he said No it didn't happen that's the end of it? Since, Casey lies that's the end of it? The truth of the matter is that NO ONE but Casey and George know the truth. NO ONE. And for ANYONE to say that he did not, you know not what you speak of. And certainly don't know anything about child sexual abuse. When I FINALLY told my mom she said "He must have been having a seizure." LOL. Well if that was the case he was having a seizure every day for 5 years lol. Anyway, that was her way of denial and dealing. Just because the perp doesn't admit it or no one else knows, or no report, doesn't mean squat. All just my two cents. IMO.

I'm sorry for your situation. IMO FCA Is making a mockery of what you and so many others went through. Her dad abused her, her brother abused her, her date abused her and fathered her baby. Each abuse story has about five different versions. You really wonder why we ain't buyin it?

 

[kaki]

Do you know the stats on how this actually works? So if he had to pay for it because it is self published, that would be upfront? And then he would have wanted an advance amount....right? This is quite a bit different than when a publishing house takes a book on to publish...so I have no idea how the profits margins work....

Evidentially the authors dont earn much per book. Ive read that non fiction earns less..but who knows what kind of a deal Baez got..

Here is a good explanation...

http://www.brandewyne.com/writingtips/authorspaid.html

 

[spcagrl]

When I first started reading the five star reviews I thought they were serious, but then when I read for a while I could see patterns - they go through the same process, it's blah blah wonderful Jose, great lawyer, blah blah, everyone who gives a one star is a troll, only listened to the media, won't offer proof - it's all about the book - then it was plain they were gaming us...:maddening:

And you know what they say - when you lose your temper you've lost the argument.

Oh, I know!! They started off with words like honor and integrity, the you have some of them who latch on to "I just can't put it down"...or "captivating!", the you have the God Bless you Sirs! And the "Jose Baez is a CLASS ACT!"

It is absurd. And ridiculous.

 

[grammieto5]

It's not because GA denied what he was being accused of that I don't believe he did it. I look at FCA's behaviour and what she said on the jail tapes. The fact that FCA is a liar plays a huge part in why I believe GA. I do believe this abuse issue is what "someone" thought would keep FCA from receiving the DP. I think all the players never thought for one second FCA would be found not guilty. I am not a GA fan but I do wish he had the venue like JB does to speak. But maybe GA does not want to speak. JB did tell one truth when he said no one will ever be charged, I believe because no one will ever press charges, because it's all lies.

 

[krkrjx]

Pcrum, I have not totally ruled out the molestation claims.I am inclined to NOT believe her since she is such a liar. However, as a victim of abuse as a child, and a certified rape counselor, I almost ALWAYS believe the women who speak out.However, I still feel IT killed her child, either by neglect or more probably murder. Have you killed any of your children because you were abused? I haven't either. She should have been held responsible for the death of that little girl.

I have totally ruled molestation out now but will admit that I did consider it for a while.

Casey is a liar. Baez has proven himself to be a liar as well. They were desperate to come up with a defense. If they wanted to go with a drowning death they needed something to go along with it to explain why 911 was not called to report the accident. They chose molestation because that is something that is in the headlines, a heated subject that people will (rightfully so) freak out with disgust and horror for how anyone can do such things to a child. The defense relied on public reaction to molestation/incest/abuse to raise reasonable doubt because they knew that even with not one shred of proof, some people would buy it.

I kept tossing the molestation theory around in my mind as I continued poring over documents for clues, but I could not find anything to lend credence to the molestation claims. It did not take long for me to be one hundred percent sure that the molestation theory was born out of desperation by the defendant and her counsel.

 

[kaki]

It's not because GA denied what he was being accused of that I don't believe he did it. I look at FCA's behaviour and what she said on the jail tapes. The fact that FCA is a liar plays a huge part in why I believe GA. I do believe this abuse issue is what "someone" thought would keep FCA from receiving the DP. I think all the players never thought for one second FCA would be found not guilty. I am not a GA fan but I do wish he had the venue like JB does to speak. But maybe GA does not want to speak. JB did tell one truth when he said no one will ever be charged, I believe because no one will ever press charges, because it's all lies.

I wonder since they are pretty much claiming publicly he is a pedophile that they are ethically or legally bound to press charges? Shouldnt he be on a sex offender registry? Shouldnt he be kept away from children?

(i know the claims are bogus trumped up to get the felon off... But stiill..if they are going to claim it in such graphic detail...they should follow it up?)

 

[mac66]

That was an interesting article. I predict a very small income boost for JB. And it couldn't happen to a more worthy guy.




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