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[Niner]

So does that mean BOTH for motions hearing on 9/9? TIA!

 

[ScotAng]

That's one option available to judges, but it doesn't address all the potential issues. Every case has to be considered separately.

That's what concerned me, all of us I'd guess, about the joint trial. The room for potential issues would be huge, imo.

I imagined a trial awash with recesses (sp) for consultations, many sidebars and confused Jurors. Thank you!

 

[Alice253]

Sievers attorney said they are not ready for an October 1 trial due to severance motion granted to Rodgers which allows him to have a separate trial from Sievers.
Sievers lawyer claims that motion granted changes their strategy.

Rodgers attorney is hoping to be ready by Oct. 1 but can’t say for sure right now.

The motion hearing is set for Sept. 9 at 8:30 a.m.

https://www.winknews.com/2019/08/22...ime-after-rodgers-was-granted-separate-trial/

Well we all knew this was coming!

 

[beach]

Bump

 

[Oregonmama]

@beach... jury selection starts for Mark next month or before that?

 

[Bobbywoo]

I leave you guys alone for a few hours and look what happens! *bad j/k*

I can't say I'm too surprised by the outcome, I'm just glad he didn't get an innocent verdict. This is FL after all. Knowing what we know vs what the jury knows is hard to swallow but a fact. I think the jury did an awesome job.

 

[beach]

@beach... jury selection starts for Mark next month or before that?

As of now, Nov. 12th. I don't think it will get moved up. That's less than 3 weeks from now. Judge has other stuff on his docket, too. Plus, he appears tired as heck. Needs a short reprieve between 2 long capital murder case trials.

 

[beach]

Lordy. Bring the discussion over here. Y’all be nice to each other tonight, please. I’m tired. lol

 

[Scalex]

Ok so quoting myself from the other thread:

Since the jury said they didn’t think Rodgers had a weapon, I don’t think they thought he was in on any plan or committed the murder, just that he either knew it occurred or was there and didn’t stop it. To me, the result of this trial seems to make CWW’s testimony inaccurate, so I’m not sure what the state is going to do in the MS trial. They surely can’t say JRR bludgeoned Teresa when a jury found him not guilty of that..

right?? How does this work now?

 

[TTF14]

Ok so quoting myself from the other thread:

Since the jury said they didn’t think Rodgers had a weapon, I don’t think they thought he was in on any plan or committed the murder, just that he either knew it occurred or was there and didn’t stop it. To me, the result of this trial seems to make CWW’s testimony inaccurate, so I’m not sure what the state is going to do in the MS trial. They surely can’t say JRR bludgeoned Teresa when a jury found him not guilty of that..

right?? How does this work now?

There's a difference between not thinking he had a weapon and there not being sufficient evidence presented to prove that he did have a weapon. Something similar recently happened in the Dan Markel murder trial. One of the jurors who hung the jury said in an interview that she believes Katie Magbanua (a conspirator) is guilty, but she didn't think the state proved it.

 

[TTF14]

To me, the result of this trial seems to make CWW’s testimony inaccurate, so I’m not sure what the state is going to do in the MS trial. They surely can’t say JRR bludgeoned Teresa when a jury found him not guilty of that..

rsbm

He was found guilty of murder. The jury didn't find him not guilty.

 

[beach]

Ok so quoting myself from the other thread:

Since the jury said they didn’t think Rodgers had a weapon, I don’t think they thought he was in on any plan or committed the murder, just that he either knew it occurred or was there and didn’t stop it. To me, the result of this trial seems to make CWW’s testimony inaccurate, so I’m not sure what the state is going to do in the MS trial. They surely can’t say JRR bludgeoned Teresa when a jury found him not guilty of that..

right?? How does this work now?

I replied on the other thread. lolol

 

[Oregonmama]

Lordy. Bring the discussion over here. Y’all be nice to each other tonight, please. I’m tired. lol

I am always nice

 

[Oregonmama]

And I can sleep in tomorrow and not get up EST time... Whooo hoooo

 

[Oregonmama]

recap from Jake: I like this young man.....

Jake Allen‏Verified account @Jake_Allen19 2h2 hours ago




The third defendant in the case, Curtis Wayne Wright Jr., already pleaded guilty to second-degree murder as part of a deal with the prosecution. He was a big part of the prosecution's case during the Rodgers trial and is expected to testify again during the Mark Sievers trial.

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  A separate trial for Mark Sievers, the victim's husband, is scheduled to begin at 8:30 a.m. Nov. 12.
  
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  Rodgers could be sentenced to life in prison for the second-degree murder charge. He is set to sentenced in front of Lee Circuit Judge Bruce Kyle at 1:30 p.m. Nov. 18. Family members of Rodgers and Teresa Sievers are expected to give impact statements at the hearing.

 

[beach]

I don’t care what thread y’all post on tonight. I used to be a stickler for topical threads. I’ll get back to that soon. Tonight I don’t care. lol. In the next couple of days, I’ll get this forum back on track.

 

[Oregonmama]

I am going to be honest re verdict; Yes I am disappointed with the 2nd degree murder guilty plea but they did their civic duty and voted on what they thought should happen with what was presented to them. Personally, I wanted to see JRR suffer more with the DP because T did not deserve this brutal death. After the ME's testimony, I was in rage with the brutality of it all. Hoping JRR gets Life with no parole.

 

[Scalex]

This is what he was found guilty of:
Accomplice Felony Second Degree Murder occurs when you are an accomplice to a person who kills another human being while engaged in the commission, or attempted commission, of the following statutorily enumerated felonies, regardless of whether they intended the death:

• Burglary (in this case)

Penalties for Second Degree Murder
The crime of Second Degree Murder is a First Degree Felony in Florida and punishable by up to life in prison, life on probation, and a $10,000 fine.

Second Degree Murder is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code. Absent grounds for a downward departure sentence, a judge is required to sentence a person convicted of Second Degree Murder to a minimum sentence of 16¾ years in prison, but may also sentence the person up to the statutory maximum of life in prison.

 

[Oregonmama]

I don’t care what thread y’all post on tonight. I used to be a stickler for topical threads. I’ll get back to that soon. Tonight I don’t care. lol. In the next couple of days, I’ll get this forum back on track.

Should I move my tweet post that I just posted in here? Cant get on your bad side !

 

[TTF14]

This is what he was found guilty of:
Accomplice Felony Second Degree Murder occurs when you are an accomplice to a person who kills another human being while engaged in the commission, or attempted commission, of the following statutorily enumerated felonies, regardless of whether they intended the death:

• Burglary (in this case)

Penalties for Second Degree Murder
The crime of Second Degree Murder is a First Degree Felony in Florida and punishable by up to life in prison, life on probation, and a $10,000 fine.

Second Degree Murder is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code. Absent grounds for a downward departure sentence, a judge is required to sentence a person convicted of Second Degree Murder to a minimum sentence of 16¾ years in prison, but may also sentence the person up to the statutory maximum of life in prison.

So he was found guilty of second degree murder. Let's hope he gets life.

Both of those convicted in this heinous crime have been convicted of second degree murder.

I'm ok with that and REALLY hope the mastermind behind this, Mark Sievers, gets convicted of first degree murder. Is Mark's trial a death penalty trial?