Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #14

[Dr. Pennypacker]

Thank you FlowerChild for the informative "catch up".

 

[Mysterylover]

I contribute it to poor communications from within, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand has reported.

As for AMW, they've disgusted me for some time now on their poor coverage and accuracy on several other cases.

Why would any professional get in front of the MIC and give a nationwide press conference and not have the correct facts and deliberately mislead the public? Seems that does more harm than good...

I agree AMW has changed and gone down hill...imo

 

[belimom]

Thanks, FC, for the summary!

Wanted to clarify my post:
- the witness sketch/description was someone who could be part-caucasian/part-NA, correct? Christopher Placker does have many NA features. I'm not saying it is him, but when looking at his picture, it reminded me of the sketch so much that I had to then look up the sketch and see them side by side. There are just some elements of resemblance to me, whether it's him or not. JMO...

- As for Vicky/Peter's criminal records, unless there is another Vicky/Peter Placker couple, I found their names (twice, I believe) on this site: http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/casesearch.asp Just search for "Placker".

 

[CMorrison64]

Thanks, FC, for the summary!

Wanted to clarify my post:
- the witness sketch/description was someone who could be part-caucasian/part-NA, correct? Christopher Placker does have many NA features. I'm not saying it is him, but when looking at his picture, it reminded me of the sketch so much that I had to then look up the sketch and see them side by side. There are just some elements of resemblance to me, whether it's him or not. JMO...

- As for Vicky/Peter's criminal records, unless there is another Vicky/Peter Placker couple, I found their names (twice, I believe) on this site: http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/casesearch.asp Just search for "Placker".

Just look like they had some financial problems. Didn't see anything that caused a red flag (assault, drugs, etc.)

 

[belimom]

Just look like they had some financial problems. Didn't see anything that caused a red flag (assault, drugs, etc.)

The first one was for forcible entry, if I'm reading it correctly...? Sorry - I'm not implying that P/V are guilty - I found their names while looking up other Plackers and was surprised. I had not seen any mention of their run-ins with the law at all, so I thought I'd post it...

 

[Claycat]

The first one was for forcible entry, if I'm reading it correctly...? Sorry - I'm not implying that P/V are guilty - I found their names while looking up other Plackers and was surprised. I had not seen any mention of their run-ins with the law at all, so I thought I'd post it...

Another poster told me that was about them being evicted, Belimom.

 

[CMorrison64]

The first one was for forcible entry, if I'm reading it correctly...? Sorry - I'm not implying that P/V are guilty - I found their names while looking up other Plackers and was surprised. I had not seen any mention of their run-ins with the law at all, so I thought I'd post it...

You are right, I missed that ... sorry. Hey anything's possible as we really don't know who did it ... in my mind nobody's innocent until the people responsible are caught.

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

life in this town sounds like a far cry from the ideal "white picket fence" community

 

[evelyn24]

I'm going by memory here, this is the one case, I actually was involved on from the first thread (don't have the time to catch up on the others, but I TRY!!

Anyway, I recall the Grandpa saying that he called the mother of Skyla and she was going down the road in her car the opposite direction. He stopped her, then asked her to call 911.

I think that's why there's the, "What? Whaaaat?... because she had no clue at first what the issue was. Then of course, "they" meaning family members or witnesses, pronounced them dead and she just snapped. Quite understandably.

I think OSBI rationale behind the releasing of the 911 tapes is drawing on the communities emotions and hoping "someone" will feel guilty enough to come forward. JMO

I doubt it's Skyla's mom, because the caller calls one of the murdered girls, "my daughter, my grandbaby, and her friend."
Taylor was Vicky and Peter's bio grandbaby, but they considered her, and raised her like their daughter.
Assuming that is Vicky, I think all doubt about the Plackers has been erased, because the woman on the 911 call is utterly shocked and devastated.

 

[noZme]

Dr P & others new to WS:

1st welcome aboard... you have joined a great group of people!

Here you will find demographics of Weleetka... you'll see it is an economically depressed, mostly blue-collar area.... unemployment level is significantly higher than the state average, household income is low $20Ks, there is little growth & education levels are low. Like many small, rural towns, Weleetka is struggling.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Weleetka-Oklahoma.html

Also, if you find time to read, there is a wide array of information about the families & other pertinent data in other topics on this thread.

 

[YellowDog]

I hope this doesn't go down as another unsolved case that can haunt a small town like this for years and years.

Since no witnesses have been able to lead them to a suspect yet (at least as far as we know) it may have been some oddball just lurking in the brush that day. None the less, I think it was someone who knew the girls and lived in the vicinity.

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

Thank you noZme

 

[belimom]

...the woman on the 911 call is utterly shocked and devastated.

ITA. And, her demeanor is in stark contrast to the Patsy Ramsey's call. Vicky Placker's voice was high-pitched, she was extremely upset, had a hard time communicating the situation, etc. Patsy Ramsey was breathless, voice was actually low, not high. And she didn't seem in shock to me. We went through an event where we thought our child had drowned - I was devastated, screaming at the top of voice, hysterical, etc - very similar to Vicky Placker. OTOH, when I first listened to Patsy Ramsey's call, I recall thinking - as someone who experienced perceived trauma or near-trauma myself - that she didn't sound traumatized... JMO.

BTW, thanks for the welcomes to the board! This is an awesome place...

 

[little726]

This may have already been discussed and I apologize if it has but, I had another thought about the POI and why they want to talk to him.

The POI could have just been driving on that country road and came upon the dead girls in his travels. He gets out of his truck to see what's going on, see's the Plackers coming down the road, gets scared and takes off. The POI might feel he will be blamed for the murders.

That could be why the POI will not come forward. He may also have a criminal record.

 

[YellowDog]

Dr P & others new to WS:

1st welcome aboard... you have joined a great group of people!

Here you will find demographics of Weleetka... you'll see it is an economically depressed, mostly blue-collar area.... unemployment level is significantly higher than the state average, household income is low $20Ks, there is little growth & education levels are low. Like many small, rural towns, Weleetka is struggling.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Weleetka-Oklahoma.html

Also, if you find time to read, there is a wide array of information about the families & other pertinent data in other topics on this thread.

I found an interesting comment from one of the posters on this website who states when referring to the murders, "I don't doubt it though since it's so near Dustin."

Is there something about the town of Dustin we don't know? Does it have a history of violence?
Just curious.......

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

Flower Child, could I ask a favor.

could you highlight somehow the parts of your summary that are based on your contact info.

thanks.

 

[raeann]

I'm sure this most likely is totally unrelated to this case, but I found it interesting and thought others might want to research it a bit.
There is a man missing from southeast Kansas since last Saturday. His name is Timothy A. McKay from the Winfield area which is probably about 90 miles or less from the Tulsa area. No picture was shown by local news media, not even an age that I saw, but what was most startling was that he is driving a WHITE CHEVY PICKUP TRUCK, however the info. said that it has Kansas tags.

 

[rccook555]

See, this is why things get twisted..not you, but the media not doing proper research...especially AMW! WTH!!
The caller clearly uses the term, "My daughter, My Grandbaby, and her daught...her friend".
She's panicked and stumbling on her words, but I think it's definitely Vicky.

I was wondering if maybe Skylas mom was there at the time. I know GM was stumbling over her words but maybe the other person there was Skylas mom and thus she said " Her Daught..."

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I will have to check again, but I thought they found him...Raeann.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

ITA. And, her demeanor is in stark contrast to the Patsy Ramsey's call. Vicky Placker's voice was high-pitched, she was extremely upset, had a hard time communicating the situation, etc. Patsy Ramsey was breathless, voice was actually low, not high. And she didn't seem in shock to me. We went through an event where we thought our child had drowned - I was devastated, screaming at the top of voice, hysterical, etc - very similar to Vicky Placker. OTOH, when I first listened to Patsy Ramsey's call, I recall thinking - as someone who experienced perceived trauma or near-trauma myself - that she didn't sound traumatized... JMO.

BTW, thanks for the welcomes to the board! This is an awesome place...

Belimom~ There are some people who freak and others who remain fairly calm sounding. It depends solely on the person. I am one that remains very cool in high stress (such a medical emergencies) situations, but fall apart afterwards. I don't think it is fair to say that everyone who doesn't react as you did is somehow guilty or less than a caring person.