Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #3

[harleysnana]

You didn't understand what I said. Are the current "arrests", like whose been arrested in the last hour or all day online. Our SO updates theirs constantly.
Do u have a link for todays arrests?

Oh that is a good idea!
We also have them updated hourly here.
Is there any links we can post to keep an eye open for the arrest?

 

[Beyond Belief]

Oh that is a good idea!
We also have them updated hourly here.
Is there any links we can post to keep an eye open for the arrest?

Thats what I can't find, I have looked all over the place. I was hoping to see someone picked up maybe on some other charge, but be the one.

 

[harleysnana]

Oh, sorry. I don't know. If it is any indication that most of the escapees still listed as such were caught almost a month ago...probably not.

SS do you have a list of the county jails in the area?
Most of them have an "active jail roster" and some of them even have
the booking photo.
I have no clue on what cities are close or I would check for the links.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh that is a good idea!
We also have them updated hourly here.
Is there any links we can post to keep an eye open for the arrest?

If there are...I will be surprised. Not saying it is not possible, just saying I have not heard of it here. We usually have to wait for the local media...or in this particular case...Fox news.

 

[MeoW333]

I'm sorry, something is just not sitting right w/ me. If this POI that was spotted by his pickup had anything to do w/ the murders, surely don't you think he would have high tailed it out of there and not let a witness look him in the eyes? You can hear vehicles coming from quite a distance on a dirt road. If he was indeed the murderer, he would have hid himself as if to look like he was fixing a flat tire, not stare into someone's eyes. That just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe these so called witnesses are the ones involed in the murder and trying to throw LE off.

I've pondered the same thing myself..

How does a witness notice an eye color so closely unless they were a few feet away from a person? Dark eyes or blue eyes may stand out farther away, yet still. In a moving vehicle past a person standing on the side of the road how does one get a good look at the eyes? Are they saying hazel as black and blue eyes have been ruled out?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

SS do you have a list of the county jails in the area?
Most of them have an "active jail roster" and some of them even have
the booking photo.
I have no clue on what cities are close or I would check for the links.

Most counties here don't even have a website. Sorry. Tulsa and OKC do. We also have www.OSCN.net, but I am not sure when it is updated. It details the case files.

Our "active jail roster" usually is only when you know a specific name and call them to ask.

 

[FlowerChild]

You know, Flower...you could be mistaken about him not being on the SO registry. If it was a failed abduction attempt, he could very well be a SO. Also, even a drug related crime could fall back to a past SO because of not being able to find a job. Don't tell us to not cover ALL the bases. While we know that no sexual assault took place, we do not know the motive here.

Of course, there is a lot they are not telling us and it is starting to irritate the hell out of me. I think they have a working theory in place and are actively tracking it down with the information provided from various sources. They also have had many tips called in and we don't know where those are leading them. Simple questions could be answered, but either the reporters aren't asking the questions we want answered or they have refused to let go of the information.

I went to the store and I saw 4 older trucks just like the one I posted with the chrome running down the sides (they were light blue and white or all light blue). I still looked carefully at the people. It won't surprise me to find it is an older truck. The witness surely knows this small detail and why they wouldn't release it is beyond me.

Clay, interesting about McDonalds. I have mentioned I think they should be checking the gas stations on the turnpikes and package stores in the area of the small towns. I think Henryetta (15 miles away) would be the only place with a McD's, but not sure. I never take the Creek Nation Turnpike, so not aware if they have the combo of McD's with the Phillips stations there. I do know they have stations tho.

Oh by all means, cover all the bases if you like - the ideas are just MY OPINION and my feelings, nothing more. I just am not "feeling" a SO Vibe here at all and nothing LE has said thus far sends me in that direction either. SO's are not USUALLY the psychological type to put a half dozen bullets into TWO non-victims in broad daylight with people around because they were "rejected" verbally in passing. I don't think the girls were approached at all, they were WALKING (not running, not yelling not screaming or doing anything to show they were afraid at all) and didn't even TRY to call 911 or home. A sex offender just gunning down two victims with multiple shots with two guns without alarming them in any way first? Not very fulfilling for the "Sex" Offender? Head shots after multiple BODY shots... (again IMO) are indicative of someone who was set on KILLING. IMO, this perp didn't get off on dominating his victims, or making them fear him or even controlling them, my take is that if he got off on anything, it was the act of KILLING.

From what we know right now if the POI DID (?) kill the girls it was cold, calculated and clinical. He didn't even act afraid or frightened when people SAW him and his vehicle. He killed and calmly left the area. It just seems devoid of any fear, passion or emotion at all. This seems (right now) more like a "hit man" OR like a father killing his children or entire family before committing suicide than a random act of drug or emotion/anger fueled stranger-stranger violence.

But as always, merely what I THINK...

 

[Claycat]

Maybe the suspect is Taylor's real father, and someone gave the police his description to draw suspicion away from them. Maybe it was an accident, and they had to figure out who to blame.

Or maybe the man in the sketch is an imaginary person invented to take the heat. Remember the lady who drowned her sons in her car and blamed it on an imaginary black man. Maybe someone killed the girls and blamed it on an imaginary NA.

 

[harleysnana]

If there are...I will be surprised. Not saying it is not possible, just saying I have not heard of it here. We usually have to wait for the local media...or in this particular case...Fox news.

I found it for Oklahoma Statewide but you need to booking info...
name, offender id etc.
that sucks... our local one you don't need anything you can look at all
current inmates!

 

[MeoW333]

It would be wonderful if we had more information to go on that the 6 different witnesses saw. I understand they can't give away everything; yet a random man standing near his car looking suspicious yet no description of how so is not enough. I don't believe they found signs of sexual assault at all. I would like to think the girls wouldn't have gotten into a car with a stranger. I think they either witnessed something, or it was a random thrill kill.

 

[MeoW333]

Also, a lot was mentioned about ATV riders in the woods, they could have shot the girls then took off back onto the trails again.
I hope this case gets solved soon, it makes me nervous when they don't like the Jody Parent case they never found the culprit there either..

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe the suspect is Taylor's real father, and someone gave the police his description to draw suspicion away from them. Maybe it was an accident, and they had to figure out who to blame.

Or maybe the man in the sketch is an imaginary person invented to take the heat. Remember the lady who drowned her sons in her car and blamed it on an imaginary black man. Maybe someone killed the girls and blamed it on an imaginary NA.

I know you brought this up before and glad you did. There was a pending inquiry where Linda Placker was trying to get a role number for her mother. This is serious among tribal members. I don't take it lightly because I know what is involved.

The fact no one is privy to the actual biological parents of Taylor bothers me, too. They made certain not to mention them in the Obit and no one has mentioned them even in gossip that I know of. This is one fact of the family which is being witheld on purpose and why? Obviously, the parents did not attend the funeral. Who are they and why has someone not uncovered the real story of Taylor? I want to know, too.

 

[harleysnana]

Most counties here don't even have a website. Sorry. Tulsa and OKC do. We also have www.OSCN.net, but I am not sure when it is updated. It details the case files.

Our "active jail roster" usually is only when you know a specific name and call them to ask.

Okay I found this http://www.theinmatelocator.com/Oklahoma.html
There is alot of info and I have no clue where to start because I'm not
familiar with Oklahoma...
If you click on Utah you can see where you don't always need the inmate number.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I found it for Oklahoma Statewide but you need to booking info...
name, offender id etc.
that sucks... our local one you don't need anything you can look at all
current inmates!

Well, it is Oklahoma and they haven't talked to me about their current needs for keeping up with WSers. Maybe I need to rectify that!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Okay I found this http://www.theinmatelocator.com/Oklahoma.html
There is alot of info and I have no clue where to start because I'm not
familiar with Oklahoma...
If you click on Utah you can see where you don't always need the inmate number.

yeah...but it is the "current" thing they aren't so good at.

 

[Snowlover77]

Hey FlowerChild, I agree with you on the killer(s) not being a Sex Offender(s). Most Sex Offender's do not use a gun to kill their victims. ....especially if the victims are children. They chose strangulation.
Guns are used rarely in a heat of passion type killing. They are used more in planned killings. I think whoever did this obviously set out with the intent to kill.
I'm also weirded out by this POI...something tells me the police may be looking for a man that had nothing to do with this..other than just being in the area at the time. Anyone else feel that way?

 

[noZme]

The person or people who did this are far from normal and they are cold blooded, violent dregs of society. There can be no reason good enough. The why is a question we will always ask and probably will always allude us. While I want to try to figure out cases, I never expect to be able to wrap my head around how they are wired nor do I want to. There just is no reasoning or logic to make this ever less than it is. It is beyond vicious. The person or people behind this have no soul and do not deserve to be sharing our air. They need to go straight to Hell and we need to provide them a link.

excellent post!


also, someone questioned earlier why the POI would not have been immediately identified & turned in by someone.

we here at websleuths, have a special interest in what i call "cops & robbers". this story & many other local dramas are competing for airtime & newsprint with the election, flooding, economy, etc. many people check the sports scores & market reports & are done with the news. others read their horoscope & look to see what celebrities are up to.... as we frantically search for answers & justice for these children, many people saw this story & skipped right over it.

 

[harleysnana]

yeah...but it is the "current" thing they aren't so good at.

On some of them are updated as of today!
Can you look at it and give me a list of the counties that you think
may be close.
Thanks!

 

[MeoW333]

I know you brought this up before and glad you did. There was a pending inquiry where Linda Placker was trying to get a role number for her mother. This is serious among tribal members. I don't take it lightly because I know what is involved.

The fact no one is privy to the actual biological parents of Taylor bothers me, too. They made certain not to mention them in the Obit and no one has mentioned them even in gossip that I know of. This is one fact of the family which is being witheld on purpose and why? Obviously, the parents did not attend the funeral. Who are they and why has someone not uncovered the real story of Taylor? I want to know, too.

SS, This is good you brought this up. Isn't blood testing involved among other things? Blood testing for dna etc. Do you think it may be over money? If Taylor was entitled to land or a percentage of money from her tribe?
Does she an First Nation ID tribal card?

 

[Claycat]

Thanks, SS! I appreciate your feedback!

The fact that the girls were facing their killers really bothers me. I feel like it was someone they knew. It could have been other kids for all I know. I served on a jury where a boy, 14, stabbed a girl, 13, to death. Psychopaths come in all ages.