So who does Aphrodite Jones think is the killer is?

[DeeDee249]

You were responding to to a post from AC where she is saying she believes JBR was being abused prior to her death. Give me a break. You RDI's are all over the place. This conversation is done anyhow. Dave has already admitted that he and I guess all RDI's know more about this case than the people who are investigating it. That says it all.

Why thank you. I do, actually, know more about this case than the people investigating it. Considering the investigation, that isn't hard to do. And I venture to say that most of us here know more than the people investigating the case.

 

[joeskidbeck]

And Lord knows we all know more than the media!

 

[Tadpole12]

Well Joe, I disagree.

This is why I don't come here much anymore. It always ends the same. I thought you believed in Mark Beckner's statement. But all you guys do is through out he said one thing and meant another. Beck's statement proves to me that a Ramsey did not kill JBR. Either that or he is an idiot.

The DNA is real. They believe it. And they have more of it that we don't know about. They are gonna figure it out. What saddens me the most is you guys still feel it is okay to throw stones when LE is telling you they were wrong. Mary Lacey is gonna be the protagonist when this case is over.

Heyya Roy.
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The discovery of additional matching DNA in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case is important information that raises more questions in the search for JonBenet's killer. The BPD concurs with the Boulder District Attorney's Office that this is a significant finding. The PD has continued to look diligently for the source of the foreign DNA, and to date, we have compared DNA samples taken from more than 200 people. Finding the source of the DNA is key to helping us determine who killed JonBenet

I interpret MB's statement to be ambiguous, "raises more questions" does not approach a definitive, but opens a possibility.
baaaa.

 

[Tadpole12]

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[Agatha_C]

Heyya Roy.
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The discovery of additional matching DNA in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case is important information that raises more questions in the search for JonBenet's killer. The BPD concurs with the Boulder District Attorney's Office that this is a significant finding. The PD has continued to look diligently for the source of the foreign DNA, and to date, we have compared DNA samples taken from more than 200 people. Finding the source of the DNA is key to helping us determine who killed JonBenet

I interpret MB's statement to be ambiguous, "raises more questions" does not approach a definitive, but opens a possibility.
baaaa.

Thats how I read it too Tad....LOL baaaaaaaaa!!!!! Careful, theres a sheep eating dragon around here...

 

[Roy23]

Okay ladies and Gents.

So you guys and gals know more evidence on this case than The DA's office, Mark Beckner, and all the other investigator's.

Okay, I get it.

:seeya:

 

[BBB167893]

I see why you are such in a bad mood these days then.

Because I think this case is in the hands of the inmates? That's only ONE reason for my breath taking on flammable qualities. I guess you could say that Aphrodite Jones's latest "faring" was the straw that broke the camel's back.

A lot of people care about this case.

Maybe so. But I think we can all agree that Ms. Jones ain't one of 'em.

 

[BBB167893]

I still think calling a family that just lost their child murderers is worse than anything on this entire website.

Well, I realize this probably won't make you a tinker's damn worth of difference, pilgrim, but it means a LOT to me: of all the people who think the Ramseys did it, MAYBE one out of 10 think it was murder. "Murder" implies certain things. I was raised to believe that there's a difference between killing and murdering.

Just wanted to keep it straight.

 

[BBB167893]

Roy, I was far more dissapointed by your opinion that parents like the Rs wouldnt desecrate their own childs body like it was. Many here know that I am a foster parent and it isnt just poor children that come to my home and many have come.


One of my children (as they are all mine now. a bond that will never break) came from an affluent family. Her mother was potty breaking her and the child just wasnt catching on (she wasnt ready) her mother sat her in boiling water and at some point sewed her vagina shut. This precious child almost died. She lost both legs, she will never have children, and forever use a bag to go to the bathroom. She has grown to be beautiful, intelligent (top of her class at Tulane, thank you very much) and strives to change the world for children. Her mother it was determined had psychological issues that were kept hidden by not only she but certain family members, as to admit them was unthinkable, a shame and mark on the families names. So the child suffered and when she was left less then was acceptable to the near do wells, she was thrown away... Please dont ever say, parents like the Rs would NEVER do something like desecrate their childs body or all bets are off.

Sadly, Agatha, it's a pretty common failing among IDI: I call it the "Ozzie & Harriet" syndrome in honor of a "friend" who has, shall we say, departed.

 

[joeskidbeck]

There are 8 people reading this thread right now. Come on everyone! We want to hear your thoughts, opinions, or questions (no matter whether RDI or IDI).

 

[Agatha_C]

Roy,

I have mad respect for you when it comes to your children. But what does that have to do with anything I said? I wasnt talking about your parenting, I thought I was talking about the Rs and what affluent parents are capable of. I used my own childs experience as an example.

I wasnt preaching Roy, I was giving an opinion and an example for my opinion. Can we stay on topic and not get personal.

The game comment, wasnt meant literally. As nothing about this is fun, entertaining or amusing….

I’ve read the link that you gave and I read it differently than you, and we all know what you think of my reading skills. Beckner never said or implied that the TDNA belonged to the killer. He said >>> "The discovery of additional matching DNA in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case is important information that raises more questions in the search for JonBenet's killer. I take this to mean exactly what it says, it raises more questions, as it should. It does not say that it belongs to the killer.

He also said >>> Finding the source of the DNA is key to helping us determine who killed JonBenet. This does not say, the DNA belongs to the killer, only that its key in helping to determine if it does belong to an intruder or if someone else was there who knows who did kill her. It could have been placed there innocently Roy.

If that DNA was placed there innocently than it helps to discredit the intruder theory and thats all I get from his comment. Again, my reading skills are in question as that’s all IDI has, TDNA on the outside of her pants, a speck of DNA on the inside (not semen) and personal attack. If you cant baffle them with brilliance then call them names and try to make them feel stupid…LOL…

ML said in a press conference after finding this DNA and sending JR her love letter, that no one could be cleared (Including the Rs) except in a court of law. Ive posted that press release on this thread when this conversation first began…

I don’t drink Kool-Aid, but thank you anyway!!!!!!

 

[BBB167893]

JMK was basically admitting to the crime. He certainly caught MT's interest.

Yeah, that pretty much says it all!

He is hiding in Thailand and due to the treasure trove of information and junk on the internet, he had enough of it right to create probable cause and be looked at.

Not by anyone who KNEW the case. That's my whole point. ST certainly agreed with me. He had ML's number when he said she made Alex Hunter look like Rudy Giuliani. Lin Wood didn't like THAT one bit. Understandable: considering all the favors she was doing for his clients, he couldn't afford to have people look at her too closely!

Just like our Gov't just did with Osama, their plan was to not spook anyone here into allowing JMK to run away. They caught him and he turned out to be a nutcase.

You CANNOT seriously be comparing the two. Please tell me I'm reading that wrong!

I don't think ML looks as bad as most of you say.

I think you'll find that we (myself included) have been more GENEROUS toward ML than she deserves. Lucrezia Borgia had more honorable qualities!

At least she followed up on something. And that seems to be a criticism you have of all LE on this case right now.

Perhaps you generalize a bit too much. I'd prefer to make my criticisms on an individual basis. Then maybe you'll understand me better.

 

[Agatha_C]

(Snipped from Dave)

Lucrezia Borgia had more honorable qualities!....LOLOLOLOL!!!! That was greatness!!!!!!

 

[joeskidbeck]

I have never called the R's murderers. Have I said I believe that one of them killed her? Absolutely. I'll go you one better than that. WHOEVER tightened the cord around her neck is a murderer. That person made a decision to strangle her. I even used to believe he/she wasn't aware that she was still alive at the time and then I realized that I'm guilty of the same reasoning as most IDIs. That is for believing that if there had been any sign of life, they would have gotten help. John knows what happened as well as Patsy did. One of the reasons he is so quick to help "journalists" get his version of the truth out to the public. Aphrodite Jones, John Ramsey, and Michael Tracey have no regard for the real truth at all.

 

[Agatha_C]

I have never called the R's murderers. Have I said I believe that one of them killed her? Absolutely. I'll go you one better than that. WHOEVER tightened the cord around her neck is a murderer. That person made a decision to strangle her. I even used to believe he/she wasn't aware that she was still alive at the time and then I realized that I'm guilty of the same reasoning as most IDIs. That is for believing that if there had been any sign of life, they would have gotten help. John knows what happened as well as Patsy did. One of the reasons he is so quick to help "journalists" get his version of the truth out to the public. Aphrodite Jones, John Ramsey, and Michael Tracey have no regard for the real truth at all.

You know Beck, our Dave brought up a name that fits Borgia!!!!!!!

 

[BBB167893]

And I was so hoping that you would get the full message in my post.

Hope dies so fast around here, Agatha.

Affluent people like to sweep the family shame under the rug and go to great lengths and expense to do so. Just take a look at the Kennedys and Skakels.

Yes! Someone finally put into words what I was struggling to voice. Those with the most have the most to lose and are LESS likely to "Face the music," as it were.

Ask yourself what was the reason for the medical records being denied to LE? What were the Rs hiding?

Many here, both IDI and RDI dont feel that abuse was taking place in that home. I however do. Its my opinion that several different forms of abuse had taken place from mental to physical. Just because friends didnt see it doesnt mean it wasnt happening or maybe they were afraid of what the Rs and LW would have done to them.

Why were PRs friends planning an intervention?

Why are the Rs the only people that dont lie?

You can't see air, does that mean it doesnt exist? You cant see God, but many believe that he is there?

(snip from your post)

You don't have to give me any warnings. It won't do any good

Good to know. Let the games begin!

The game is on!

 

[BBB167893]

You guys must have trouble reading. But if you think your life is just as safe growing up in South Central LA versus Mystery lane it is fine with me.

In a way. I think it would be more accurate to say the we recognize the capacity for good and for evil in EVERYONE, whether they're from Park Avenue or a park bench.

And usually people don't wait until they are 60 years old to act out on their fantasies. Please note the word usually.

I don't follow.

 

[Agatha_C]

I know right! And I was accused of being a sheep. Heres the poem, you tell me who the sheep are..

Baa, baa, black sheep,
Have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir,
Three bags full.
One for the master,
One for the dame,
And one for the little boy
Who lives down the lane.[1] (or Who cries down the lane.)

 

[joeskidbeck]

You guys must have trouble reading. But if you think your life is just as safe growing up in South Central LA versus Mystery lane it is fine with me. And usually people don't wait until they are 60 years old to act out on their fantasies. Please note the word usually.

Roy, is the "fantasy" you are referring to concerning some folks' theory that JR had molested his daughter? If this is what you are talking about, then please know that it is not a standard RDI theory. I do believe that someone had been molesting her and it very well could have been the catalyst that started everything that night. I'm not so sure it was her dad though. IMO there are at least three others who were much more likely to have been molesting her. Molesting and incest are two VERY ugly words and I firmly believe that both these could ultimately tell the sad story of what happened. I believe the whole thing is a lot more simple than anyone realizes. It's all the lies and covering that turned this into the huge mystery it is today. I guess we could even substitue the words "touching", "fooling around", or "playing" for that one pesky "molesting" and still have the same meaning. Some mothers under the amount of stress that this one was would absolutely go nuts if they caught or even found out about someone touching their 6 yo daughter this way. Good gosh, I know one personally who tried to kill a man for touching her 4 yo son and she didn't have cancer or any of the other stressors this mother had. I know we cannot imagine how anyone else would react unless we are in their shoes but we also cannot know for certain how they won't react either.

 

[Toltec]

I too am coming to believe that John Ramsey did not molest his daughter. He had two other daughters and nothing has come to light. I truly believe the man adored all his children and I believe would have given his life for any of them if given the chance.

On the other hand...if he had found JonBenet dead at the hands of either Patsy or Burke, I would believe he would cover for them.