South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #3

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  • #421
I'm totally confused. It's REALLY hard to follow all this by reading, which is NOT to say that I'm unappreciative of all the tweeters and tweet "copy and pasters", here. Quite the opposite. YOU GUYS ROCK!!!

I just miss being able to see and hear for myself what's going on. I wish they agreed to televise it but not in real-time. Play it back at the end of each day. What's wrong with that?

I have to admit that I'm also pulling a "possible Masipa" but in reverse. I totally believe that SD is as guilty as sin and I'm working backward to figure out how it all happened. Masipa, I think, always thought OP was innocent and worked backward through everything to find things that would support that.

Also in OP's trial, the state's first witness was cross examined by Roux, he pressed her on why statements she was then making were not in her formal statement to police. She said that she had told the policeman all of it when he first talked with her but she was not asked about it specifically, again. her assumption was that the cop HAD included it in his report. How that relates to this case, I can't recall, I'm, having a brain freeze.

Furthermore, I ask myself in this situation how I could remember ANYTHING 4 years later. Would ZT be in better shape here, if he qualified everything by saying that? Even if they said, well, you signed this statement... Couldn't he in all truth simply say, I don't remember anything except that I said something and later signed something. That's what I'd have to say because that would be the truth.

He seems to get caught up in minute details, which I think is what VZ is trying to do. I don't see ZT tiny missed details as being very significant.

I'm bad at analogies but from science class I remember this weird thing. Some could have the most beautiful, clean, refreshed eyes that you've ever seen but then, when you look through an electron microscope you see that ALL our eyes are disgustingly infested, ALL THE TIME. It's not a problem until it becomes a problem.

(Unless you're really brave don't google images of these things. Most of the photos show people with problems with them)


What Bugs Live on Your Eyelashes?

Written by Paul Jeter

Some microscopic bugs live harmlessly in our eyelashes.

There are a few types of insects that live harmlessly in our eyelashes. They are too small to see with the naked eye. These bugs are parasites that are closely related to spiders and other arachnids. They are referred to as eyelash mites. They live in and around the hair follicle, which is the root of each stand of hair. They eat dead skin cells and find their home in sweat, where a lot of bacteria like to thrive. There's nothing you can do about them, and they have been there all your life.

http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_7842068_bugs-infest-human-hair.html


My point here is that ZT could get 100 tiny details wrong and still be telling the truth. In my opinion, he is. I also fear the SD will get off. He's got high paid lawyers that are after a "win" not justice and, while I appreciate the judge being a bit more interactive than Masipa, only by reading what she says, I don't like her very much.

Like Masipa, but differently, I think she's naive - has perhaps led too sheltered and white-bread a life. Both are definitely from the wrong generation.

(ALL conjecture and opinion on my part).
 
  • #422
Col.Mustard, I agree re: the judge, she was blaming Adv Adrian Mopp for the sound equipment problem the first 2 days of trial, why does she hold him responsible for it? Very strange. Then excluding evidence from LL even being heard, just seems like she's gone into this trial with an opinion and she's not budging.
 
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The following articles were written before SD was extradited but I found them very interesting nonetheless.

Shrien Dewani: CyberShrink Comments

---- The relationship between the psychiatrists who testified in the Dewani case are being seriously questioned. CyberShrink made these uncanny observations at the time.


Dewani: Start from Scratch
---- The shocking news about the possible collaboration of the psychiatrists in the Dewani extradition trial means it's back to square one, says CyberShrink.


The Dewani Farce: Comedy or Tragedy?
---- On Monday, the ANC Woman's League will be marching in Pretoria, to demand the extradition of Dewani back to SA. If he could walk that far, he'd gladly join them, says CyberShrink.
 
  • #425
Having listened to the 702 broadcasts I am coming to the conclusion that this trial may well come to nothing due to the poor witness performance. We have yet to hear from Dewani, if he takes the stand at all. I understand he may not because the prosecution witnesses are so poor. We may never know what really happened. I don't have much background knowledge on this trial as I avoided it in the UK press. Not difficult because we don't take newspapers. I use the internet for whatever news I want to read and confess the Dewani Trial was not something I found of interest. When I heard it might be seen on TV I then purposely avoided reading anything bar one or two reports on the timing of the trial just before it started. I was hoping for another OP Trial where one could form an opinion by listening live to the witnesses. Well, it wasn't to be and I find following the tweets very frustrating. I did find the Radio 702 comments interesting but I am still left with no gut feeling. So different from the OP trial.
 
  • #426
I'm left wondering what evidence there is that would incriminate SD other than the circumstantial. Discussions about the money SD handed over to Tongo, and in the car at the time of the murder, confirm the amounts would be substantial to a poor South African. My question is would the amount of money handed over be seen as reasonable/normal for the work he did for SD, bearing in mind he wasn't hired exclusively, and IIRC SD and Anni did not plan a long stay in CT? If this was considered substantially excessive it could be further evidence re SD's guilt, in addition to the other circumstantial evidence.
 
  • #427
Looking forward to new witness soon!!

I am uncertain if there is any merit to further interrogation of Tongo at this point
 
  • #428
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 3m3 minutes ago

Zola Tongo will return to the witness stand when the trial resumes this morning.
 
  • #429
Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

Proceedings set to get underway shortly. State and defence counsel are in chambers.
 
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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

Proceedings set to get underway shortly. State and defence counsel are in chambers.

Good to see you Madam Tweeter
 
  • #431
Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 53s54 seconds ago

Zola Tongo takes his position in the witness stand.
 
  • #432
News24 ‏@News24 39s39 seconds ago

The Hindochas, including Anni's father, Vinod, looking grim-faced, are also here.
 
  • #433
Good to see you Madam Tweeter

Another day of intense standoff between VZ and Tongo.



News24 ‏@News24 2m2 minutes ago

This will be Zola Tongo's fifth day on the stand.
 
  • #434
We would be lost without you Prime, much appreciate your time and input.
 
  • #435
uncertain whether DT is persistent or inept

or

totally corrupt and milking this for maximum billable hours
 
  • #436
Delayed, not sure why.
 
  • #437
Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

Proceedings resume
 
  • #438
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 25s25 seconds ago

And we're off. Dewani's lawyer points some evidence not handed in correctly as evidence.
 
  • #439
Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 38s38 seconds ago

VZ: You've now had the weekend to think. When was it agreed btw the accused & you that you'll receive R5000?
 
  • #440
Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 38s38 seconds ago

Tongo: Before I respond, I request My Lady, to tell the journalist by the name of Fani, to stay away from my family.
 
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