South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #3

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RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2m2 minutes ago

Judge:when you made these arrangements Monde was somewhere else?

Tongo: he was at work.

 

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RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Qwabe told the court he phone someone in your presence to get hold of a second gun?

Tongo: I don't remember.

VZ: look at statement "Qwabe made some telephone call and I could hear he was arranging with a friend to bring a firearm"

Tongo: I don't recall Qwabe making phone call from my car.

V Zyl says Qwabe made call to someone for 2nd gun.

VZ: is that correct?

Tongo: what I remember is that he was still going to look for his (gun)


(Tongo frequently refers to two men allegedly hired to kill Anni - Qwabe & Mngeni - as "the young men". )

 

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News24 ‏@News24 3m3 minutes ago

Paragraph 18, page 6.... we seem to be going through each paragraph of Tongo's affidavit in fine detail. :sigh:

 

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Eyewitness News ‏@ewnupdates 3m3 minutes ago Sandton

Zola Tongo continues to say he can’t remember while being cross-examined.


VZ now turns to the timeline of calls (drafted on a large chart) He says 16:02:59 Monde calls Tongo.

V Zyl turns to record of phone calls made on night of murder.

VZ: we intend playing this audio clip.

VZ: this call was 38 seconds, it was Monde calling Tongo.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

VZ to play audio clip, in Xhosa, between Mbolombo and Tongo


News24 ‏@News24 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Audio recording from CCTV footage of one side of conversation in Protea Hotel handed in, Monde calling Tongo

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

Call made 16:02:59 for 38 secs, MM calls Tongo on 13 November 2010. Clip includes a request for surgical gloves.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Mr. Tongo, why would MM call you to tell you these young men were looking for surgical gloves?

Tongo: There was a lot of communication. MM was assisting me. He was the one who knew them. When I phoned him, he would tell me what the men are saying.

VZ: Why couldn't Mr. Qwabe speak to you directly?

Tongo: I won't be able to know

 

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EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 45s45 seconds ago

VZ: can you confirm that you had a discussion with Monde about gloves that Qwabe and Mngeni wanted?

Tongo: seems like there was

 

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Leila Samodien ‏@Leila_Luck 46s46 seconds ago

In the audio recording, Monde says the "young men" want "white hands", which Van Zyl says is a reference to surgical gloves.

 

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kevinjohnbrandt ‏@kevinjohnbrandt 1m1 minute ago



VZ, highlights 3 calls made by Monde Mbolombo to Qwabe and Tongo at 18:35:36 and 18:38:35 instructing them....they should not get

lost(disappear)

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 3m3 minutes ago

VZ to play another audio clip of a conversation between MM and Tongo on 13/11 at around 6pm-referring to "five of us"

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Mr. Tongo, MM is talking to you at almost 18:45. He says "there's five of us, remember?". Can you tell the court why five?

Tongo: He (MM) was counting himself, Mr. Dewani, Qwabe, myself and Mngeni.

 

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News24 ‏@News24 28s28 seconds ago

VZ: There was money at play, people had to share in the money, looks like one conspirator reminding others there are 5 to share.


Ayesha ‏@CloraVannieKaap 45s45 seconds ago

Tongo explains the reason Monde said "remember there are 5 of us", is because he included Dewani as he was part of the plan.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 47s47 seconds ago

Shrien Dewani laughs this off. Tries to cover up his smirk.

(he's getting cocky now, settle down Mr D )

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: Do you think MM was reminding you that Mr. Dewani is also involved in this?

Tongo: Since there was nothing that MM was not aware of, he could have done that.

VZ: For what purpose?

Tongo: I can't remember that now.

 

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EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: was there not a 5th person involved in your conspiracy with Qwabe, Mngeni and Monde?

Tongo insists the fifth person in the conspiracy is Dewani. But VZ not convinced.

Tongo: In this conspiracy we were 5.

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 3m3 minutes ago

VZ: Mr. Tongo was there not a 5th person in YOUR conspiracy?

Tongo: In our conspiracy, we were 5: SD, MM, XL, MQ, ZT

VZ: This shows that there was a 5th person. If it was Mr. Dewani, it makes no sense.

Tongo: It makes sense to me, that's what you're saying. I'm putting it on record.


Court breaks for tea, 10m

 

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EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 2m2 minutes ago

VZ: was there not a 5th person involved in your conspiracy with Qwabe, Mngeni and Monde?

Tongo insists the fifth person in the conspiracy is Dewani. But VZ not convinced.

Tongo: In this conspiracy we were 5.

so using that logic -- shortfall on Tongo's pay was SD's portion ?

 

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 33s33 seconds ago

In a nutshell:

VZ is insinuating that MM had a bigger role in the conspiracy, questioned da Grass' role in the plea agreement, Tongo reassures the court that he has remembered things over the years and is not tailoring his evidence. VZ says 5 people were involved in the conspiracy, who? Tongo says the five ppl include Shrien Dewani, Zola Tongo, Xolile Mngeni, Mziwamadoda Qwabe & Monde Mbolombo.



(Seems to me VZ has opened a :worms: )

 

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so using that logic -- shortfall on Tongo's pay was SD's portion ?

It doesn't make sense, lol, but VZ has just made extra work for himself now, it's going to take all day to sort out.

I wonder if there was a fifth person unknown or Tongo bizarrely included Dewani? :crazy: